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I've been watching coverage of a DEA raid on a Birmingham gas station that reportedly was selling the synthetic mj product called spice. In 2011 Alabama like many other states passed laws to make Spice illegal but since the formula can be varied it is questionable that any one law could nail down all possible variants of the drug.

Enter the DEA with their story line that because most of the money for these drugs could be funding terrorism they must put a stop to it. I'm not sure of the validity of their claim concerning terrorism but it leaves me with the impression that they are using the Patriot Act as a means to justify shutting down one mans livelihood for a day while they make a TV show about the DEA's authorati'.

They parade the foreign man operating the gas station onto TV to tell everyone in broken English that he does not believe this is funding terrorist. I'm sure most southern white folk smirked and said "Glad they caught that little towel head before he blew up somethin".

I must be getting paranoid in my old age but I just felt like the Constitution was being shat upon and this fellow was being railroaded. I'm not promoting drugs, just the law.
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You just used Alabama and DEA in the same sentence. 5aGoofy Thumflag waver
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You just used Alabama and DEA in the same sentence. 5aGoofy Thumflag waver
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You just used Alabama and DEA in the same sentence. 5aGoofy Thumflag waver
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Isn't that considered an Oxymoran?
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You just used Alabama and DEA in the same sentence. 5aGoofy Thumflag waver
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Isn't that considered an Oxymoran?
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No I think it's a TotalMoran.
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Re: Alabama Spice and DEA raid
You just used Alabama and DEA in the same sentence. 5aGoofy Thumflag waver
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Isn't that considered an Oxymoran?
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No I think it's a TotalMoran.
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Re: Alabama Spice and DEA raid
I've been watching coverage of a DEA raid on a Birmingham gas station that reportedly was selling the synthetic mj product called spice. In 2011 Alabama like many other states passed laws to make Spice illegal but since the formula can be varied it is questionable that any one law could nail down all possible variants of the drug.

Enter the DEA with their story line that because most of the money for these drugs could be funding terrorism they must put a stop to it. I'm not sure of the validity of their claim concerning terrorism but it leaves me with the impression that they are using the Patriot Act as a means to justify shutting down one mans livelihood for a day while they make a TV show about the DEA's authorati'.

They parade the foreign man operating the gas station onto TV to tell everyone in broken English that he does not believe this is funding terrorist. I'm sure most southern white folk smirked and said "Glad they caught that little towel head before he blew up somethin".

I must be getting paranoid in my old age but I just felt like the Constitution was being shat upon and this fellow was being railroaded. I'm not promoting drugs, just the law.
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I lived in Alabama and provide some insight. Many, many people do spice because most drug tests do not specifically test for spice (which as op said can be a myriad of chems), but they do have specialized ones. So people on probation and military people get hooked easily on it. As for the gas station guy.. He knew he was selling something that got people high. The old lady in my town knew when she got it and was constantly sold off the shelf. The second the small town sherif told her to take it down, she complied.
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Re: Alabama Spice and DEA raid
I've been watching coverage of a DEA raid on a Birmingham gas station that reportedly was selling the synthetic mj product called spice. In 2011 Alabama like many other states passed laws to make Spice illegal but since the formula can be varied it is questionable that any one law could nail down all possible variants of the drug.

Enter the DEA with their story line that because most of the money for these drugs could be funding terrorism they must put a stop to it. I'm not sure of the validity of their claim concerning terrorism but it leaves me with the impression that they are using the Patriot Act as a means to justify shutting down one mans livelihood for a day while they make a TV show about the DEA's authorati'.

They parade the foreign man operating the gas station onto TV to tell everyone in broken English that he does not believe this is funding terrorist. I'm sure most southern white folk smirked and said "Glad they caught that little towel head before he blew up somethin".

I must be getting paranoid in my old age but I just felt like the Constitution was being shat upon and this fellow was being railroaded. I'm not promoting drugs, just the law.
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I lived in Alabama and provide some insight. Many, many people do spice because most drug tests do not specifically test for spice (which as op said can be a myriad of chems), but they do have specialized ones. So people on probation and military people get hooked easily on it. As for the gas station guy.. He knew he was selling something that got people high. The old lady in my town knew when she got it and was constantly sold off the shelf. The second the small town sherif told her to take it down, she complied.
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I'm not promoting Spice. It sounds like something that should be controlled. What scared me is the tactic used by the DEA to justify removing it from the gas station and the "show" they made to scare other would-be "terrorist" supporters from selling it. Today it's Spice and tomorrow it can be whatever the government deems to be a sponsor of terrorism. This is circumventing the Constitution and has all the smell of the McCarthy era of the 1950's. Terrorism is the new Red Devil that Communism was back then. If we link it to terrorism we don't need no stinkin' law to allow us to do what we need to do for the "good" of the country.

Slippery slope, slippery slope, slippery slope.
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Re: Alabama Spice and DEA raid
I've been watching coverage of a DEA raid on a Birmingham gas station that reportedly was selling the synthetic mj product called spice. In 2011 Alabama like many other states passed laws to make Spice illegal but since the formula can be varied it is questionable that any one law could nail down all possible variants of the drug.

Enter the DEA with their story line that because most of the money for these drugs could be funding terrorism they must put a stop to it. I'm not sure of the validity of their claim concerning terrorism but it leaves me with the impression that they are using the Patriot Act as a means to justify shutting down one mans livelihood for a day while they make a TV show about the DEA's authorati'.

They parade the foreign man operating the gas station onto TV to tell everyone in broken English that he does not believe this is funding terrorist. I'm sure most southern white folk smirked and said "Glad they caught that little towel head before he blew up somethin".

I must be getting paranoid in my old age but I just felt like the Constitution was being shat upon and this fellow was being railroaded. I'm not promoting drugs, just the law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44534076


I lived in Alabama and provide some insight. Many, many people do spice because most drug tests do not specifically test for spice (which as op said can be a myriad of chems), but they do have specialized ones. So people on probation and military people get hooked easily on it. As for the gas station guy.. He knew he was selling something that got people high. The old lady in my town knew when she got it and was constantly sold off the shelf. The second the small town sherif told her to take it down, she complied.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49523172


I'm not promoting Spice. It sounds like something that should be controlled. What scared me is the tactic used by the DEA to justify removing it from the gas station and the "show" they made to scare other would-be "terrorist" supporters from selling it. Today it's Spice and tomorrow it can be whatever the government deems to be a sponsor of terrorism. This is circumventing the Constitution and has all the smell of the McCarthy era of the 1950's. Terrorism is the new Red Devil that Communism was back then. If we link it to terrorism we don't need no stinkin' law to allow us to do what we need to do for the "good" of the country.

Slippery slope, slippery slope, slippery slope.
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I am only 22.. But I feel like this is the way it is already, tbh. I've already because a casualty in the drug war. In all honesty, 99.9% of spice smokers are ex Marijuana smokers seeking the same high. And let me tell you, it's not. So again we add another tally to why personal use Marijuana should be okay. Marijuana been smoked for centuries. Synthetic cannabanoids.. Uhh.. 3 years? The fact the Dea can try to say spice is funded by any sort of terrorism is hilarious. I know Alabama rednecks that didn't pass 9th grade that started making spice and made big bucks from it. Anyone with Internet access, a spray watering bottle, and some everclear can make the shit in bulk and being able to 10x initial investment
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Re: Alabama Spice and DEA raid
They made this stuff illegal in Mississippi a few years ago, for the sake of the childrenz!!

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did you not see the storage unit that supposedly belonged to the store owner full of the spice and tons of cash? it was on the news
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They made this stuff illegal in Mississippi a few years ago, for the sake of the childrenz!!

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Look man honestly I thought I'd never be the one saying this, as I am pro choice for any and all substances that you can ingest. But given the haggard ways of making the stuff you are never 100% sure of what the chemical is, it's dosage per amount of plant matter, and so on. The synthetic cannabanoids themselves can become VERY manic and I have seen people who have their shit together, just lose it because of the dose-response curve - I had huge tolerances so I'd smoke a lot. I'm not saying it should be illegal. But at the rate it's going, it's only going to keep getting worse.