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PARAMUS NJ: Westfield Garden State Plaza Mall Evacuated AGAIN (Car Fire, Shooting?), PART DEUX, SAME MALL as November

 
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PARAMUS NJ: Westfield Garden State Plaza Mall Evacuated AGAIN (Car Fire, Shooting?), PART DEUX, SAME MALL as November
I'm sure a lot of you remember the alleged active shooter scenario in Paramus NJ last November in which 200+ first responders arrived on scene, filling the parking lot with emergency vehicles, lights flashing, SWAT combing the mall for hours.

No one was shot, and the alleged shooter supposedly committed suicide... It got massive TV coverage instantly, and seemed like a scripted event that was supposed to have many 'casualties' but got called off. Very strange.

Well... here we go again...


Garden State Plaza Mall evacuated, gunshots feared as car is spotted on fire
The Garden State Plaza Mall in Paramus, N.J., was evacuated after unidentified noises feared to be gunshots were heard. A burning car outside Macy’s appeared to be the source of the explosive sounds, but police could not confirm that. Sources say SWAT teams were dispatched to the mall.

[link to www.nydailynews.com]

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Re: PARAMUS NJ: Westfield Garden State Plaza Mall Evacuated AGAIN (Car Fire, Shooting?), PART DEUX, SAME MALL as November
Background info for the first time around, it was a huge media event, a huge police response event (nearby drill same day too) but a big non-event overall.


Thread: im inside a mall in Paramus NJ shoots fired


Thread: BREAKING NEWS: ACTIVE SHOOTER AT THE GARDEN STATE PLAZA MALL IN PARAMUS, NEW JERSEY.

Suicide Ends Long Night of Chaos Inside New Jersey Mall
[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Re: PARAMUS NJ: Westfield Garden State Plaza Mall Evacuated AGAIN (Car Fire, Shooting?), PART DEUX, SAME MALL as November
Damn, what's with that mall? Very bad area I suppose?

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Re: PARAMUS NJ: Westfield Garden State Plaza Mall Evacuated AGAIN (Car Fire, Shooting?), PART DEUX, SAME MALL as November
Damn, what's with that mall? Very bad area I suppose?

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I don't think it's so much that it's a bad area, as it seems that that mall/area has been designated for heavy police response, seemingly for non-events.

Last time, police came from all over the state, many from the nearby drill. You can find videos of the parking lot from back then, it was absolutely full of emergency response vehicles, but why?

If I remember correctly, that area is actually supposed to be a nicer area, but can't say for sure as I've never been there nor do I plan to, lol.
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Re: PARAMUS NJ: Westfield Garden State Plaza Mall Evacuated AGAIN (Car Fire, Shooting?), PART DEUX, SAME MALL as November
It's not really a bad area, in fact there's upscale neighborhoods in Paramus. But being in north Jersey, no matter how nice the town is, its still a short drive from some kind of ghetto.
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Re: PARAMUS NJ: Westfield Garden State Plaza Mall Evacuated AGAIN (Car Fire, Shooting?), PART DEUX, SAME MALL as November
It's not really a bad area, in fact there's upscale neighborhoods in Paramus. But being in north Jersey, no matter how nice the town is, its still a short drive from some kind of ghetto.
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That was kind of the impression I got about the area last time around and it seems none of that comes into play in either case, as the supposed shooter last time was middle class white kid.

And this time around, there's an evacuation and SWAT team response for a car on fire in the parking lot?

On a side note, the November event was only weeks after the highly publicized mass casualty terror event at an upscale Westgate mall in Kenya.
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Thread: MASS chaos caused by tires popping from a car that was on fireoutside NJ Mall car appears to be in two different locations in different pictures?
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Re: PARAMUS NJ: Westfield Garden State Plaza Mall Evacuated AGAIN (Car Fire, Shooting?), PART DEUX, SAME MALL as November


Oh, cool, didn't see that, thanks!
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Immediately after posting on your thread I went back to the forum and that was the first thing I saw!hf

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Re: PARAMUS NJ: Westfield Garden State Plaza Mall Evacuated AGAIN (Car Fire, Shooting?), PART DEUX, SAME MALL as November
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Picture 1:
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Also, in picture 1 above, why does the entire top of the hood appear to be on fire? What is burning here? Is there an accelerant on the surface?
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Re: PARAMUS NJ: Westfield Garden State Plaza Mall Evacuated AGAIN (Car Fire, Shooting?), PART DEUX, SAME MALL as November
Lmao, any excuse to bring in a SWAT team these days...


Police: Noise from fallen support frame inside store at New Jersey mall mistaken for gunshots
[link to www.foxnews.com]

PARAMUS, N.J. – A crowd of frightened shoppers trying to exit a department store after smoke seeped in from a nearby car fire knocked over a metal support frame, leading to mistaken reports of gunshots and the evacuation of the upscale mall, authorities said Sunday.

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State police and several other law enforcement agencies combed through the mall to investigate the shooting report but later determined no shots had been fired....

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The Garden State Plaza has been the scene of violence before.

In November, a 20-year-old Teaneck man terrorized shoppers when he fired rifle shots inside the mall, then killed himself....

Hundreds of law enforcement officers converged on the 2.2 million-square-foot mall, which was put on lockdown. State police landed a helicopter in the parking lot and SWAT teams with dogs went through the mall and began evacuating people....


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