Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control. | |
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Osmium76 (OP) The OCD *Editor :)~ User ID: 27305707 ![]() 05/12/2014 12:16 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes i have to agree Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57959358 not only the youth though driving and talking on the phone should be banned yet nobody gives a fuck and think they're smarter than everyone guess what chances are you're not True! I seem to recall some guy in the news recently driving around with a cell jammer. lol....that was taking matter to the extreme, but seriously, these are epidemics we were not prepared for when this technology was released. I have a cell, but it I use it about 1x a month. My pc on the other hand is a vital tool and among others, this is one of the favorite sites I frequent to keep in the know of what's happening in the world. Chasing the dream....realizing the Revelation. ~Intrepid searcher~ Ecclesiastes 12:13 “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.” Reparations=Segregation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57163167 ![]() 05/12/2014 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, rather it is more like technology was weaponized to enrich a few at the expense of many and out of control youth are just one of many byproducts of this. Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control. |
Osmium76 (OP) The OCD *Editor :)~ User ID: 27305707 ![]() 05/12/2014 12:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, rather it is more like technology was weaponized to enrich a few at the expense of many and out of control youth are just one of many byproducts of this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57163167 Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control. Yeah, the element of greed is high. Anyone who is on a cell plan can see that one. I had a plan and the phone I was using was an alias 2. They required me to get a data package with it. I can tell you that using the internet on that phone was a joke. It was a great phone for texting messages to my wife though! Chasing the dream....realizing the Revelation. ~Intrepid searcher~ Ecclesiastes 12:13 “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.” Reparations=Segregation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1007289 ![]() 05/12/2014 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just "notice" what world view is coming into your living room and your mind from your tv. You will see exactly where the kids (and everyone else) are getting their models and perspectives rom. |
Osmium76 (OP) The OCD *Editor :)~ User ID: 27305707 ![]() 05/12/2014 12:59 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very simple. They learn it from tv. Almost all the kids I have known for the last 10-20 years talk like they are trying to be on a sit com. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1007289 Just "notice" what world view is coming into your living room and your mind from your tv. You will see exactly where the kids (and everyone else) are getting their models and perspectives rom. Isn't that the truth! I grew up watching sitcoms like gilligan's island, happy days, "chips" and family ties. Nowadays kids watch these adult oriented cartoons with sex, vulgarity and talking animals. Then you have what used to be an endearing and family friendly icon turn into a lunatic overnight, twearking and gyrating all over the stage. What kind of message does that send to kids. You never used to see murder, or hear vulgarities on tv. Now, nearly every show on places the focus on a crime of some sort with cool nonchalance. Tis truly a sad world we exist in ![]() Chasing the dream....realizing the Revelation. ~Intrepid searcher~ Ecclesiastes 12:13 “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.” Reparations=Segregation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65156781 ![]() 11/15/2014 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. I have been at electronics/computers since boyhood in the 70s. First program I wrote ran on a Sperry-Univac in a Steel Mill in 1980. I saw how the technology would go out of control a long time ago, and having rejected the BS of television in the early 80s, focused on finding employment where understanding and making the interface of the real world (analog) to these digital newcomers be somehow less stupid, and it's a dying game. Everyone expects tech to save us, but in reality we're only heaping on additional layers of irresponsibility and disengagement while giving us time to follow our least honorable inclinations. I made a living at doing this for many years, and now I'm making a slow death at it, for many reasons. The primary one would seem to be that we no longer care to take care of anything anymore, and expect that some warranty/insurance we have "purchased" will entitle us to automatic restoration without regard for our stewardship. I am so ready to for all this to collapse. I constantly repair and diagnose a wide range of problems for people who couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag. Yet they earn bonuses at this time of year, and I have to wonder if I can keep my car running etc. I'm ready for doom, because I see we've gone WAY beyond what we're smart enough to run. As far as the internet etc and youth, I feel it has been the last straw. My wife felt it was necessary to make sure our kids had access like she has, the costs of which has been disastrous. I still have a 7 year old flip phone. I won't go into details, but now our family is broken, and a good deal of it is that I as a father have no input anymore and all are free to develop their own world without regard for others or any inter-dependancy. Good Luck to All And this below is answer the digital divide logic riddle posed by the post title and many other "reality" and existential questions, if you can parse the logic. I was shown this on a tombstone in Lancaster Pennsylvania and it has bee a helpful reference in this life. "Nothing shall become so certain as to permit confusion." I believe it is a restatement of the commandment that thou shalt make no graven image (fixed idea) of anything that exists, above or below. We never know it all, and the internet is a powerful folly, leading us down much more easily than up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65153031 ![]() 11/15/2014 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The same elders that have let the education system become a farce. The same elders that have sold the world into private hands. The same elders that have been born into slavery generation after generation. The same elders that still vote for the system that enslaves them. The youths are the ones we need to teach to become better than the elders , but that is not in the elders best interest. I'm not saying it's all the elders fault but really they are the ones that got us here so stopping blaming the youths. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48165599 ![]() 11/15/2014 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Technology is a mirror, all it did was bring issues from being isolated in the newspaper and nightly news to a permanently centered front stage. Shit is changing so fast that a generational gap is more than what it was pre-internet, kids are taking more information in before they are 18 than what most of their family did in the same amount of time. It looks crude now, but the offspring of the newest generation will learn even more than their parents and more efficiently. All this knowledge before tempered maturity is a beast we've had no time to control but never had time to prepare for. To put it in car junkie speak, humanity is abruptly getting out of the family sedan and test driving an overly sensitive and quickly accelerating sports car. We can't stop so we have to learn to control ourselves before we crash. |
Asciikewl User ID: 64894138 ![]() 11/15/2014 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The long term culture of dishonesty and double standards propagated by the churches prepared the bed for this. The lies of the war on drugs made it a comfy bed. Technology accelerates what is. If the culture had been healthy, that would be accelerated. But the fundamental driver of the breakdown flows from malicious intent via the governments and media. What is the root of this? Good question. How to stop and heal this? 1) Awareness and constantly refining your awareness. 2) Honesty, integrity and congruence in everything you say, think and do. 3) Asking the people you interact with to make you aware when you're not doing/being 1) or 2) 3) Eliciting awareness in others. (Overtly and supervertly) 4) Agreeing to 2) in the people you interact with explicitly 5) Calling them on it if they break the agreement No 4 can be extended to explicilly declare intentions and outcomes. This avoids a lot of arguments if behaviours apparently don't support intentions or outcomes. Quite simple really, if you stick to it. * supervert is like subvert, except the subjects thank you afterwards Is 'Question everything!' a good idea? (The Gödel take on conspiracy theories) |
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