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Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.

 
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Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
What happened to "respect your elders"? 1dunno1

Where did courtesy toward others and freely giving to those in need while away to?

Why do so many young individuals use foul abusive language in every other word that proceeds from their mouth?

What happened to being proud of what you accomplish and satisfied with what you have?

Everywhere I go, the younger generation is rampantly rushing headlong onto a downwardly spiraling destructive path. They are oblivious in the way they treat other people. This is true for their own family as it is for strangers.
Most of the teens I encounter today are highly selfish individuals. They often treat those that love them and support them with disdain and malice. Many are only interested in what is self serving and have grown to feel they have an entitlement everything including to acting the way they do. They lack compassion, morels, education and understanding they have no ambition and very little work ethic, if any ethics at all!

Where did all of this come from?

I have a theory or two.

I believe that it first began with the uptick in single mothers raising children who became latch key. It is NOT entirely the mom's fault however, as they were only doing what they could to manage. They worked and the kids came home from school and did what they wanted (if they even went).

Aside from that however, with technology, we gained convenience, through the use of portable phones, internet and such. But at what cost has that technology weighed on our society?
We have the knowledge to use such tech, but, can it be shown that we don't possess the wisdom? I think so.....

Consider this.

It used to be that kids didn't have the luxury of having their own phone, or their own computer. They actually had to use a phone that was physically located within the home. This in turn allowed parents at least a degree of control over how their children would use it, who they were talking to and such. Similar can be said with with computers.

Fast forward 30 years.

Now every kid has a mobile phone or access to one through friends. If not a phone, they have a wireless device which can tether hotspots. No longer are children restricted and it has become nearly impossible for them to be monitored by the parent. Taking a phone or computer privilege away is laughable to say the least. There is no longer a way to keep the activities of our children in the open. How wise has it been to give our children (who rarely possess a developed level of maturity)such powerful tools to be used at their whim?

Like I said, we have the knowledge, but at what point do we have to step back and admit that we lack the wisdom in allowing our children free reign of a technology that is likely silently destroying what was once a great nation through lack of parental control?

Inherently, kids lack the fundamental reasoning required to ensure that they don't abuse this mighty power they now hold unrestrained in their grasp. There is little or no regulation which compels them to embrace the former traditional values of respect, courtesy, honesty, etc. True, there are some kids who remain elevated above this bar, but more so, as time progresses....the technological wonders they wield have only served to strip the power away from those to whom it rightly belongs, which is the parents. The youth of today now have a power that no generation prior possesed.

To answer my questions above....

This in my opinion is but two of the reasons why much of the youth are the way they are today. They no longer have parental guidance as in past generations. They also now hold a power that is dangerous. It is this unchecked power and lack of guidance that likely will prove to be the destruction of the very thread of which our humanity was woven.
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Children have limits for a reason. An age for alcohol, an age for driving, an age for voting, but we allow them free reign for such technological items as a cell phone and computers? These adolescent individuals, who lack fundamental reasoning no longer have anyone to answer to, but instead, they create their own agenda.

Your thoughts? Am I just thinking too deeply on this?
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Re: Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
yes i have to agree

not only the youth though


driving and talking on the phone should be banned
yet nobody gives a fuck and think they're smarter than everyone


guess what chances are you're not
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Re: Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
yes i have to agree

not only the youth though


driving and talking on the phone should be banned
yet nobody gives a fuck and think they're smarter than everyone


guess what chances are you're not
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True! I seem to recall some guy in the news recently driving around with a cell jammer. lol....that was taking matter to the extreme, but seriously, these are epidemics we were not prepared for when this technology was released.

I have a cell, but it I use it about 1x a month. My pc on the other hand is a vital tool and among others, this is one of the favorite sites I frequent to keep in the know of what's happening in the world.
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Re: Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
No, rather it is more like technology was weaponized to enrich a few at the expense of many and out of control youth are just one of many byproducts of this.


Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
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No, rather it is more like technology was weaponized to enrich a few at the expense of many and out of control youth are just one of many byproducts of this.


Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
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Yeah, the element of greed is high. Anyone who is on a cell plan can see that one. I had a plan and the phone I was using was an alias 2. They required me to get a data package with it. I can tell you that using the internet on that phone was a joke. It was a great phone for texting messages to my wife though!
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Re: Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
Very simple. They learn it from tv. Almost all the kids I have known for the last 10-20 years talk like they are trying to be on a sit com.

Just "notice" what world view is coming into your living room and your mind from your tv. You will see exactly where the kids (and everyone else) are getting their models and perspectives rom.
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Re: Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
Very simple. They learn it from tv. Almost all the kids I have known for the last 10-20 years talk like they are trying to be on a sit com.

Just "notice" what world view is coming into your living room and your mind from your tv. You will see exactly where the kids (and everyone else) are getting their models and perspectives rom.
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Isn't that the truth!

I grew up watching sitcoms like gilligan's island, happy days, "chips" and family ties. Nowadays kids watch these adult oriented cartoons with sex, vulgarity and talking animals.

Then you have what used to be an endearing and family friendly icon turn into a lunatic overnight, twearking and gyrating all over the stage. What kind of message does that send to kids.

You never used to see murder, or hear vulgarities on tv. Now, nearly every show on places the focus on a crime of some sort with cool nonchalance.

Tis truly a sad world we exist in
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Re: Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
Yes. I have been at electronics/computers since boyhood in the 70s. First program I wrote ran on a Sperry-Univac in a Steel Mill in 1980. I saw how the technology would go out of control a long time ago, and having rejected the BS of television in the early 80s, focused on finding employment where understanding and making the interface of the real world (analog) to these digital newcomers be somehow less stupid, and it's a dying game. Everyone expects tech to save us, but in reality we're only heaping on additional layers of irresponsibility and disengagement while giving us time to follow our least honorable inclinations. I made a living at doing this for many years, and now I'm making a slow death at it, for many reasons. The primary one would seem to be that we no longer care to take care of anything anymore, and expect that some warranty/insurance we have "purchased" will entitle us to automatic restoration without regard for our stewardship. I am so ready to for all this to collapse.
I constantly repair and diagnose a wide range of problems
for people who couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag.
Yet they earn bonuses at this time of year, and I have to wonder if I can keep my car running etc.
I'm ready for doom, because I see we've gone WAY beyond what we're smart enough to run.

As far as the internet etc and youth, I feel it has been the last straw. My wife felt it was necessary to make sure our kids had access like she has, the costs of which has been disastrous. I still have a 7 year old flip phone.
I won't go into details, but now our family is broken, and
a good deal of it is that I as a father have no input anymore
and all are free to develop their own world without regard for others or any inter-dependancy.



Good Luck to All

And this below is answer the digital divide logic riddle posed by the post title and many other "reality" and existential questions, if you can parse the logic.

I was shown this on a tombstone in Lancaster Pennsylvania
and it has bee a helpful reference in this life.



"Nothing shall become so certain as to permit confusion."


I believe it is a restatement of the commandment
that thou shalt make no graven image (fixed idea) of anything that exists, above or below.

We never know it all, and the internet is a powerful folly,
leading us down much more easily than up.
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Re: Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
What happened to "respect your elders"? 1dunno1

 Quoting: Osmium76



The same elders that have let the education system become a farce.

The same elders that have sold the world into private hands.

The same elders that have been born into slavery generation after generation.

The same elders that still vote for the system that enslaves them.


The youths are the ones we need to teach to become better than the elders , but that is not in the elders best interest.

I'm not saying it's all the elders fault but really they are the ones that got us here so stopping blaming the youths.
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Re: Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
Technology is a mirror, all it did was bring issues from being isolated in the newspaper and nightly news to a permanently centered front stage.

Shit is changing so fast that a generational gap is more than what it was pre-internet, kids are taking more information in before they are 18 than what most of their family did in the same amount of time. It looks crude now, but the offspring of the newest generation will learn even more than their parents and more efficiently. All this knowledge before tempered maturity is a beast we've had no time to control but never had time to prepare for.

To put it in car junkie speak, humanity is abruptly getting out of the family sedan and test driving an overly sensitive and quickly accelerating sports car. We can't stop so we have to learn to control ourselves before we crash.
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Re: Is technology "The straw that broke the camels back" , and has led to youth out of control.
The long term culture of dishonesty and double standards propagated by the churches prepared the bed for this. The lies of the war on drugs made it a comfy bed.

Technology accelerates what is. If the culture had been healthy, that would be accelerated.

But the fundamental driver of the breakdown flows from malicious intent via the governments and media.

What is the root of this? Good question.

How to stop and heal this?

1) Awareness and constantly refining your awareness.
2) Honesty, integrity and congruence in everything you say, think and do.
3) Asking the people you interact with to make you aware when you're not doing/being 1) or 2)

3) Eliciting awareness in others. (Overtly and supervertly)
4) Agreeing to 2) in the people you interact with explicitly
5) Calling them on it if they break the agreement


No 4 can be extended to explicilly declare intentions and outcomes. This avoids a lot of arguments if behaviours apparently don't support intentions or outcomes.

Quite simple really, if you stick to it.



* supervert is like subvert, except the subjects thank you afterwards
Is 'Question everything!' a good idea? (The Gödel take on conspiracy theories)
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Not technology, diversity. If we want to embrace diversity we deserve all this.
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