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Dr. Pim Van Lommel

A Dutch Cardiologist for 26 years and an internationally recognized researcher in the field of Near-Death Experiences
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2004 Article: Continuity Of Consciousness
[link to iands.org]
Excerpt:
With our current medical and scientific concepts it seems impossible to explain all aspects of the subjective experiences as reported by patients with an NDE during their period of cardiac arrest, during a transient loss of all functions of the brain. But science, I believe, is the search for explaining new mysteries rather than the cataloguing of old facts and concepts. So it is a scientific challenge to discuss new hypotheses that could explain the reported interconnectedness with the consciousness of other persons and of deceased relatives, to explain the possibility to experience instantaneously and simultaneously (non-locality) a review and a preview of someone’s life in a dimension without our conventional body-linked concept of time and space, where all past, present and future events exist, and the possibility to have clear consciousness with memories from early childhood, with self-identity, with cognition, and with emotion, and the possibility of perception out and above one’s lifeless body.
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2013 Article: Non-local Consciousness
[link to pimvanlommel.nl]
(^ PDF Download ^)
Excerpt:
It often takes an NDE to get people to think about the possibility of experiencing consciousness independently of the body and to realize that presumably consciousness always has been and always will be, that everything and everybody is connected, that all of our thoughts will exist forever, and that death as such does not exist. But also the results and conclusions of scientific studies on NDE provide an opportunity to reconsider our relationship with ourselves, our fellow man ,and nature, but only if we are willing and able to ask open questions and abandon preconceptions. Studies into NDE may help the scientific community to reconsider some assumptions about life and death, and about consciousness and its relation with brain function.
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2011 Book: Consciousness Beyond Life: The Science Of The Near-Death Experience
[link to www.amazon.com]
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2013 Presentation: Non-local Consciousness
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(Start at 0:40 mark)

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2004 Article: Continuity Of Consciousness
[link to iands.org]
Typical Elements of NDE:

4.2 The Holographic Life Review. During this life review the subject feels the presence and renewed experience of not only every act but also every thought from one’s past life, and one realizes that all of it is an energy field which influences oneself as well as others. All that has been done and thought seems to be significant and stored. Insight is obtained about whether love was given or on the contrary withheld. Because one is connected with the memories, emotions and consciousness of another person, you experience the consequences of your own thoughts, words and actions to that other person at the very moment in the past that they occurred. Hence there is during a life review a connection with the fields of consciousness of other persons as well as with your own fields of consciousness (interconnectedness). Patients survey their whole life in one glance; time and space do not seem to exist during such an experience. Instantaneously they are where they concentrate upon (non-locality), and they can talk for hours about the content of the life review even though the resuscitation only took minutes. Quotation:

“All of my life up till the present seemed to be placed before me in a kind of panoramic, three-dimensional review, and each event seemed to be accompanied by a consciousness of good or evil or with an insight into cause or effect. Not only did I perceive everything from my own viewpoint, but I also knew the thoughts of everyone involved in the event, as if I had their thoughts within me. This meant that I perceived not only what I had done or thought, but even in what way it had influenced others, as if I saw things with all-seeing eyes. And so even your thoughts are apparently not wiped out. And all the time during the review the importance of love was emphasised. Looking back, I cannot say how long this life review and life insight lasted, it may have been long, for every subject came up, but at the same time it seemed just a fraction of a second, because I perceived it all at the same moment. Time and distance seemed not to exist. I was in all places at the same time, and sometimes my attention was drawn to something, and then I would be present there.”

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2013 Article: Non-local Consciousness
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Meeting Deceased Relatives: if deceased acquaintances or relatives are encountered in another worldly dimension, they are usually recognized by their appearance, and communication is possible through what is experienced as thought transfer. Thus, it is also possible to come into contact with fields of consciousness of deceased persons (interconnectedness), even if it was not possible to know that these relatives had died. So apparently a kind of personal identity (‘Self’) is still accessible in the non-physical dimension. Quotation(van Lommel,2004):

"During my cardiac arrest I had an extensive experience(…) and later I saw, apart from my deceased grand mother, a man who had looked at me lovingly, but whom I did not know. More than 10 years later, at my mother’s deathbed, she confessed to me that I had been born out of an extramarital relationship, my father being a Jewish man who had been deported and killed during the second World War, and my mother showed me his picture. The unknown man that I had seen more than 10 years before during my NDE turned out to be my biological father."
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Moreover, the findings and conclusions of recent NDE research may result in a fundamental change of one’s opinion about death, because of the almost unavoidable conclusion that at the time of physical death consciousness, with persistent Self-identity, will continue to be experienced in another dimension, in which all past, present, and future is enclosed. As someone with an NDE wrote to me: ‘Death is only the end of our physical aspects.’ But we should acknowledge that research on NDE cannot give us the irrefutable scientific proof of this conclusion, because people with an NDE did not quite die, but they all were very close to death, and without a functioning brain. As I have explained before, it has been strongly suggested that during NDE enhanced consciousness with persistent and unaltered Self-identity was experienced independently of brain function. With out a body we may still have conscious experiences. Recently someone with an NDE wrote me: ‘I can live without my body, but apparently my body cannot live without me.’

The conclusion seems compelling that endless or non-local consciousness has and always will exist independently from the body. For this reason we indeed should seriously consider the possibility that death, like birth, can only be a transition to another state of consciousness, and that during life the body functions as an interface or place of resonance. This view of a non-local consciousness also allows us to understand a wide variety of special states of consciousness, such as mystical and religious experiences, deathbed visions(end-of-life experiences), shared death experiences, peri-mortem and post-mortem experiences (afterdeath communication, or non-local interconnectedness with the consciousness of deceased relatives), heightened intuitive feelings and prognostic dreams (non-local information exchange), remote viewing (non-local perception),and perhaps even the effect of consciousness on matter like in neuroplasticity (non-local perturbation)(vanLommel,2010).
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2013 Article: Non-local Consciousness
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Apparently, an NDE is both an existential crisis and an intense lesson in life. People change after an NDE as it gives them a conscious experience of a non-local dimension in which time and distance play no role, in which past and future can be glimpsed, where they feel complete and healed and where they experience unlimited knowledge and unconditional love. These life changes mainly spring from the insight that love and compassion for oneself, for others, and for nature are major prerequisites for life. Following an NDE most people realize that everything and every one is connected, that every thought has an effect on both oneself and the other, and that our consciousness continues beyond physical death. Regarding what we can learn from people who are willing to share their NDE with others, I would like to quote Dag Hammerskjöld: ‘Our ideas about death define how we live our life’(Hammerskjöld,1964). Because as long as we believe that death is the end of everything we are, we will give our energy towards the temporary and material aspects of our life. We should recognize that our view of the world is wrong, because we do not realize that the world, as we see it, only derives its (subjective) reality from our consciousness. Because it is only our consciousness that is determining how we see this world. If we are in love, the world around us is beautiful, when we are depressed our world is like hell, and when we are frightened (made terrified by politicians and by thepress) our world will be full of terror. ‘The mind in its own place, and in itself,can make a heaven or hell’, wrote John Milton as early as 1667 in his poem ‘ParadiseLost’(Milton,1674).
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2004 Article: Continuity Of Consciousness
[link to iands.org]
Typical Elements of NDE:

4.2 The Holographic Life Review. During this life review the subject feels the presence and renewed experience of not only every act but also every thought from one’s past life, and one realizes that all of it is an energy field which influences oneself as well as others. All that has been done and thought seems to be significant and stored. Insight is obtained about whether love was given or on the contrary withheld. Because one is connected with the memories, emotions and consciousness of another person, you experience the consequences of your own thoughts, words and actions to that other person at the very moment in the past that they occurred. Hence there is during a life review a connection with the fields of consciousness of other persons as well as with your own fields of consciousness (interconnectedness). Patients survey their whole life in one glance; time and space do not seem to exist during such an experience. Instantaneously they are where they concentrate upon (non-locality), and they can talk for hours about the content of the life review even though the resuscitation only took minutes. Quotation:

“All of my life up till the present seemed to be placed before me in a kind of panoramic, three-dimensional review, and each event seemed to be accompanied by a consciousness of good or evil or with an insight into cause or effect. Not only did I perceive everything from my own viewpoint, but I also knew the thoughts of everyone involved in the event, as if I had their thoughts within me. This meant that I perceived not only what I had done or thought, but even in what way it had influenced others, as if I saw things with all-seeing eyes. And so even your thoughts are apparently not wiped out. And all the time during the review the importance of love was emphasised. Looking back, I cannot say how long this life review and life insight lasted, it may have been long, for every subject came up, but at the same time it seemed just a fraction of a second, because I perceived it all at the same moment. Time and distance seemed not to exist. I was in all places at the same time, and sometimes my attention was drawn to something, and then I would be present there.”

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 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


I find this experience interesting and can be compared to Carl Jung's theory of the collective unconscious..

“My thesis then, is as follows: in addition to our immediate consciousness, which is of a thoroughly personal nature and which we believe to be the only empirical psyche (even if we tack on the personal unconscious as an appendix), there exists a second psychic system of a collective, universal, and impersonal nature which is identical in all individuals. This collective unconscious does not develop individually but is inherited. It consists of pre-existent forms, the archetypes, which can only become conscious secondarily and which give definite form to certain psychic contents.”

Jung linked the collective unconscious to 'what Freud called "archaic remnants" - mental forms whose presence cannot be explained by anything in the individual's own life and which seem to be aboriginal, innate, and inherited shapes of the human mind'.

Sometimes he seems to regard the predisposition to experience certain images as understandable in terms of some genetic model' - as with the collective arm. However, Jung was 'also at pains to stress the numinous quality of these experiences, and there can be no doubt that he was attracted to the idea that the archetypes afford evidence of some communion with some divine or world mind', and perhaps 'his popularity as a thinker derives precisely from this' - the maximal interpretation.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I think Jung was onto something, and I also believe he knew that he couldn't fully elaborate the idea of the mind, or soul, living on forever. He probably would've been heavily criticized and possibly discredited at the time.
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I find this experience interesting and can be compared to Carl Jung's theory of the collective unconscious..

“My thesis then, is as follows: in addition to our immediate consciousness, which is of a thoroughly personal nature and which we believe to be the only empirical psyche (even if we tack on the personal unconscious as an appendix), there exists a second psychic system of a collective, universal, and impersonal nature which is identical in all individuals. This collective unconscious does not develop individually but is inherited. It consists of pre-existent forms, the archetypes, which can only become conscious secondarily and which give definite form to certain psychic contents.”

Jung linked the collective unconscious to 'what Freud called "archaic remnants" - mental forms whose presence cannot be explained by anything in the individual's own life and which seem to be aboriginal, innate, and inherited shapes of the human mind'.

Sometimes he seems to regard the predisposition to experience certain images as understandable in terms of some genetic model' - as with the collective arm. However, Jung was 'also at pains to stress the numinous quality of these experiences, and there can be no doubt that he was attracted to the idea that the archetypes afford evidence of some communion with some divine or world mind', and perhaps 'his popularity as a thinker derives precisely from this' - the maximal interpretation.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I think Jung was onto something, and I also believe he knew that he couldn't fully elaborate the idea of the mind, or soul, living on forever. He probably would've been heavily criticized and possibly discredited at the time.
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Thanks for contributing to the thread.

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I hate catching your threads late ;)
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2004 Article: Continuity Of Consciousness
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Typical Elements of NDE:


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I think Jung was onto something, and I also believe he knew that he couldn't fully elaborate the idea of the mind, or soul, living on forever. He probably would've been heavily criticized and possibly discredited at the time.
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This might interest you, Hijinnx.

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Absolutely! Our consciousness, our being is not like jello in the bowl of our head. There is evidence of this going back thousands of years.

Thank you for such an informative and authoritative thread. I will work on this tonight, there is so much.

hf
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Typical Elements of NDE:


 Quoting: ANHEDONIC

I think Jung was onto something, and I also believe he knew that he couldn't fully elaborate the idea of the mind, or soul, living on forever. He probably would've been heavily criticized and possibly discredited at the time.
 Quoting: Hijinnx


This might interest you, Hijinnx.

[link to archive.org (secure)]
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Oh wow! It most certainly does interest me. Thank you. I love Jung. Just reading the TOC makes me happy inside. lol
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Dr. Pim Van Lommel

A Dutch Cardiologist for 26 years and an internationally recognized researcher in the field of Near-Death Experiences
_____________________________________________________________​_________


2004 Article: Continuity Of Consciousness
[link to iands.org]
Excerpt:
With our current medical and scientific concepts it seems impossible to explain all aspects of the subjective experiences as reported by patients with an NDE during their period of cardiac arrest, during a transient loss of all functions of the brain. But science, I believe, is the search for explaining new mysteries rather than the cataloguing of old facts and concepts. So it is a scientific challenge to discuss new hypotheses that could explain the reported interconnectedness with the consciousness of other persons and of deceased relatives, to explain the possibility to experience instantaneously and simultaneously (non-locality) a review and a preview of someone’s life in a dimension without our conventional body-linked concept of time and space, where all past, present and future events exist, and the possibility to have clear consciousness with memories from early childhood, with self-identity, with cognition, and with emotion, and the possibility of perception out and above one’s lifeless body.
_____________________________________________________________​________


2013 Article: Non-local Consciousness
[link to pimvanlommel.nl]
(^ PDF Download ^)
Excerpt:
It often takes an NDE to get people to think about the possibility of experiencing consciousness independently of the body and to realize that presumably consciousness always has been and always will be, that everything and everybody is connected, that all of our thoughts will exist forever, and that death as such does not exist. But also the results and conclusions of scientific studies on NDE provide an opportunity to reconsider our relationship with ourselves, our fellow man ,and nature, but only if we are willing and able to ask open questions and abandon preconceptions. Studies into NDE may help the scientific community to reconsider some assumptions about life and death, and about consciousness and its relation with brain function.
_____________________________________________________________​_________


2011 Book: Consciousness Beyond Life: The Science Of The Near-Death Experience
[link to www.amazon.com]
_____________________________________________________________​_________


2013 Presentation: Non-local Consciousness
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
(Start at 0:40 mark)


 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


One thing I notice at about 17:00 of the video, "about 50% of the patients had awareness of being dead."

That is amazing and very telling. People having actuale awareness of their bodies being deceased.
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Absolutely! Our consciousness, our being is not like jello in the bowl of our head. There is evidence of this going back thousands of years.

Thank you for such an informative and authoritative thread. I will work on this tonight, there is so much.

hf
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hi
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hf

Will take me just a bit to listen to the video and check out the links. You have done some very thorough research, my friend. Fantastic subject!


Regarding the life review that you mentioned in the other post, I did not have one, but I am in touch with another NDE'er who has. She had hers while in the tunnel on the journey. She reported remembering only "good" points in her life, and no negative ones. Also, she did not report that she had the "ripple effect" regarding how things made other people feel. SHe said it felt "nonchalant", and was like "oh, I remember that". Just as if they were small video clips of her life.

I have heard of this "ripple effect" happening during NDE life reviews, indeed. This should remind of us of how very powerful our words are an interactions with our fellow man.
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Great thread. Please, check out: Paul Levy, "Dispelling Wetika." for further
information regarding the Jungarian thesis.
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Great thread. Please, check out: Paul Levy, "Dispelling Wetika." for further
information regarding the Jungarian thesis.
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Did you mean Hungarian?
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Great thread. Please, check out: Paul Levy, "Dispelling Wetika." for further
information regarding the Jungarian thesis.
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Did you mean Hungarian?
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1rof1

Your post made me laugh out loud, thanks for that....

He meant to say 'Jungian' in reference to Carl Jung's contributions to the field of Psychology....
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That was funny!!!!
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Dr Lommel is quite interesting to listen to, and enjoyed this a great deal.

I am also wondering about the "gifts" that are reported, or really "not so reported". What are the depths and range of such. What is considered as a "gift", and then how it is used. He touched on this a bit.

Hmmmmmmmm

I know that people with NDE are even reluctant are share the experience itself and certainly not any other details or things that come after.



Another point I thought of particular interest was when the "dead" come to the "living". (He might have expressed a certain name for this, but I can't recall it).
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Great thread. Please, check out: Paul Levy, "Dispelling Wetika." for further
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Did you mean Hungarian?
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1rof1

Your post made me laugh out loud, thanks for that....

He meant to say 'Jungian' in reference to Carl Jung's contributions to the field of Psychology....
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You've never heard of the country of Jungary? tounge
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I hate catching your threads late ;)
Will bookmark for morning coffee.
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me too!
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Or as one person who experienced an NDE put it: NDE really stands for New Discernment through Experience. The newfound insight pertains to what matters in everyday life: acceptance of and unconditional love for oneself (including acceptance of one’s dark side), others, and nature. It also pertains to insight into connectedness: everything and everybody is connected. Because of this sense of connectedness, some people describe the NDE as an experience of unity. They speak of a “cosmic law” in which everything they do to another person will ultimately have an effect on them too, and this applies to both love and affection and violence and aggression. - Consciousness Beyond Life (Pim Van Lommel)
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An NDE is both an existential crisis and an intense learning experience. People are transformed by the conscious experience of a dimension where time and distance play no role, where past and future can be glimpsed, where they feel complete and healed, and where they can experience unlimited wisdom and unconditional love. These transformations are primarily fueled by the insight that love and compassion for oneself, others, and nature are important conditions of life. Following an NDE, people realize that everything and everybody are connected, that every thought has an impact on oneself and others, and that our consciousness survives physical death. People realize that death is not the end. - Consciousness Beyond Life (Pim Van Lommel)
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Or as one person who experienced an NDE put it: NDE really stands for New Discernment through Experience. The newfound insight pertains to what matters in everyday life: acceptance of and unconditional love for oneself (including acceptance of one’s dark side), others, and nature. It also pertains to insight into connectedness: everything and everybody is connected. Because of this sense of connectedness, some people describe the NDE as an experience of unity. They speak of a “cosmic law” in which everything they do to another person will ultimately have an effect on them too, and this applies to both love and affection and violence and aggression. - Consciousness Beyond Life (Pim Van Lommel)
[link to www.amazon.com]
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I like this.......
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An NDE is both an existential crisis and an intense learning experience. People are transformed by the conscious experience of a dimension where time and distance play no role, where past and future can be glimpsed, where they feel complete and healed, and where they can experience unlimited wisdom and unconditional love. These transformations are primarily fueled by the insight that love and compassion for oneself, others, and nature are important conditions of life. Following an NDE, people realize that everything and everybody are connected, that every thought has an impact on oneself and others, and that our consciousness survives physical death. People realize that death is not the end. - Consciousness Beyond Life (Pim Van Lommel)
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This tooo.... good stuff!hf
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Thanks my friend :)

Bookmarking my spot for later...be back to discuss after my chores.
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When we come to examine the core of full NDEs we find an absolute and undeniable spiritual radiance. This spiritual core of the NDE is so awesome and overwhelming that the person who experiences it is at once and forever thrust into an entirely new mode of being. As we will see, it may take years before the effects of this transformation manifest themselves fully, but they plainly have their origin in the core NDE itself. After that experience, the person can never again return to the former way of being—though some would like to. No longer can a person take refuge in the comfort of the conventional views and values of society. What he has experienced in and retained from his NDE has for him a higher and timeless validity. It comes to take precedence over whatever he had been taught or had previously believed. When one experiences a core NDE, beliefs as such become irrelevant because beliefs are always mere ideas that substitute for direct knowledge. When you can feel your heart beating, you don’t have to believe it is—you know.  - Heading Towards Omega (Kenneth Ring)
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After NDEs, individuals tend to show greater appreciation for life and more concern and love for their fellow humans while their interest in personal status and material possessions wanes. Most NDErs also state that they live afterward with a heightened sense of spiritual purpose and, in some cases, that they seek a deeper understanding of life’s essential meaning. - Heading Towards Omega (Kenneth Ring)
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Re: Continuity of Consciousness / The Near-Death Experience (Dr. Pim Van Lommel)
Interesting thread.
marking for later.

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