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>>5/19/2014 CONFIRMED! NASA EXPOSED HIDING GIANT UFO IN SOHO IMAGES

 
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I don't get it. Astroturd, Hydra, and all the really smart space posters say that NASA is honest, and never tells lies. Tee hee...
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cause they're idiots....
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Tee hee...

That's funny! I mean, really, NASA is a government funded corporation.

Unfortunately, the ones that are lying are your SecureTeam people. Never underestimate the desire to drum up publicity amonsts government doubters by using photoshop.

I call many who are on here the "anti-sheople". They're simply sheople on the other side of the fence. They'll believe anyone who says "NASA is lying!!!". Well, I'm here to tell you, I'm not sheople on either side of the fence.

One thing that must be understood is that government does only three things:

It lies.
It steals.
It murders.

All things that are accomplished by government "for the people" are one or a combination of the above actions.

If anyone finds this not to be true in *ANY* instance, please reply to this message and tell me about it. I've never seen a case where one, two or three of the obove actions did not take place as a *PRINCIPAL* part of any government project. Frankly, many use all three. It starts with

All government is subterfuge. Anyone who doesn't realize this is not a just a moran. We enlightened ones tend to call them sheople and so on, but they really aren't bad or stupid, well, not all of them. I know why they believe. It is because there are a lot of honest people. Honest people believe that most people are like them. Well, this may be true, however, the artificial persons known as "corporations" are fictions designed to take that inate belief and turn it in to profit$. They are controlled mostly be psychopaths and care not what is good for anyone other than themselves.

The sooner the majority realizes this, the sooner they'll understand that the largest corporation in America, the US FED Gov, Inc., is really out to get you, or, rather, your value and doesn't give a rat's ass how painful or damaging or unhealthy or murderous they have to be to get it.

NASA: Just another arm of US FED Gov. Inc designed to take your money and use it against you. But, regardless, not everything NASA sends to us is a lie. They can't do it that way. It has to be very strategic.

The boy who cried wolf screwed himself over. These people in our government are much more skillful than the boy who cried wolf. They know if they lie too much, they lie will get worn and then no one will listen. Of course, they'd learn to use that against us too.

Just be careful. Don't believe a bunch of people that call themselves "SecureTeam" just becaue they say this or that and they have a cool sounding name. Verify. The problem is, most people don't have the where with all to verify squat. This is why they are sheople, or if burned a few times (burn=sheared), anti-sheople. Being an expert and professional in multiple fields gives me a unique view of much of what is going on today. In some ways, its far worse than you can even imagine. In other ways, its not nearly as bad as the squawking anti-sheople portray it.

After watching all this stuff for so many years I now realize that even the people that you may think are "on your side" are, some cases, actually there to muddy the waters for their own benefit or are actually government disinformation agents to further the affectiveness of government lies.

Here is my wish for you:

May you all have good discernment.
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Love This Shit.

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NASA - why don't y'all just stop the editing for petes sake? it's time.
 Quoting: woowoochic


If they didn't "edit" the pictures at all, this is what you would see:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
That's what the raw frame looks like before processing. I processed the raw data myself, here's what it looks like:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
No "giant UFO," no "censor" either. It's a glitch with the automated processing. They don't sit there all day manually processing each image, its handled by an automated system. Sometimes it screws up the image for one reason or another, but the youtuber who made the video claimed to show the "original unedited picture." He didn't. He lied. Here's the original unedited picture:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
If you want to get to the bottom of things like this GO TO THE RAW IMAGE DATA AND PROCESS IT YOURSELF. Don't know how many times I have to say that. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that those who scream UFO every time SOHO's automated processing system fucks up an image are themselves completely incompetent and have no idea how to get the raw data, let alone process it. It's all right there:
[link to sharpp.nrl.navy.mil]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This is why I respect your opinion. You know how to solve these mysteries.

Thanks
 Quoting: Bear Drinker

Thanks. I just wish that those who know how to (and do) make youtube videos about these things also knew how to find and process the raw data. It would save a lot of wasted effort.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So what your saying is every single NASA image is beyond reproach and we are seeing things because we do not know how to look at the raw data? Why then replace it with a pixel square? Why not just leave it alone?
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If you want to get to the bottom of things like this GO TO THE RAW IMAGE DATA AND PROCESS IT YOURSELF. Don't know how many times I have to say that. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that those who scream UFO every time SOHO's automated processing system fucks up an image are themselves completely incompetent and have no idea how to get the raw data, let alone process it. It's all right there:
[link to sharpp.nrl.navy.mil]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


:starclap:

People get played, to scam views. Works 99% of the time here chuckle
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My GOD! Astro and Palmer, do you realize what you are suggesting? ...that people should actually think for themselves instead of taking someone elses word for it? What kind of dirty bastards are you?

Hehehehehehehe.

Can't say I agree with you alot on much, but, on this point I'll back you up:

PEOPLE! STOP LETTING OTHER PEOPLE THINK FOR YOU.

Thanks guys!
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I dont understand if it was a processing error why didnt it who the error the first time. And why did they re-process the data when they already processed it without the glitch.
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The video doesn't provide any evidence about that. We have to trust them.
Most people here say that NASA isn't trustworthy, maybe, but IMO secureteam10 isn't trustworthy either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011606


^^THIS

I feel bad for the ones that fall for this BS, usually the same ones who call Dr. A a shill/troll. Lol
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Yeah cuz Dr. Astro is also a psychiatrist who can diagnose and treat mentally ill people. He trolled this thread extensively:

Thread: A demon killed my mother years ago & shape shifted into her and has been posing as my mother for years (Page 3)

He loses all credibility on this one.
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Actually, that would make me trust him even more than some guy claiming demons took over his mother's body. Just saying.
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It's the "7 sisters" star cluster. One click in photoshops bandaid tool would edit that out seamlessly. This is a "glitch"
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The stars that make up the Pleiades have never looked all spaced out and ordered like that since I've been looking at them and that's going on 48 years tomorrow.

I've seen the Pleiades on SOHO images before, and that isn't close. It might not be an alien spaceship, but I don't think it's the Pleiades either.
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Oddly enough, one of my friends who has been watching the skies since he was very young said the exact same thing. Happy early Birthday hf
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Love This Shit.

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NASA - why don't y'all just stop the editing for petes sake? it's time.
 Quoting: woowoochic


If they didn't "edit" the pictures at all, this is what you would see:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
That's what the raw frame looks like before processing. I processed the raw data myself, here's what it looks like:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
No "giant UFO," no "censor" either. It's a glitch with the automated processing. They don't sit there all day manually processing each image, its handled by an automated system. Sometimes it screws up the image for one reason or another, but the youtuber who made the video claimed to show the "original unedited picture." He didn't. He lied. Here's the original unedited picture:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
If you want to get to the bottom of things like this GO TO THE RAW IMAGE DATA AND PROCESS IT YOURSELF. Don't know how many times I have to say that. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that those who scream UFO every time SOHO's automated processing system fucks up an image are themselves completely incompetent and have no idea how to get the raw data, let alone process it. It's all right there:
[link to sharpp.nrl.navy.mil]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


hesright

thx astro
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I archive these images myself. I have the one with the identical timestamp that has not been edited.

Guess what?

The only hoax here is the one secure team is perpetrating.

My original downloaded from SOHO seconds after it was created shows the pixilated block. The edited one is the one with the ship that was, presumably, edited by SecureTeam.

I archive these images and have almost all of them since the beginning of 2013. I keep them for just this purpose so I can go back and look at the fraudsters make fools of themselves.

Hey! SecureTeam! You may fool the anti-sheople but you can't fool me!

I have a present for you!

Here's your sign:



bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58150889




Can you prove what you just said with your own footage? Because I could say I have footage of you whacking the dolphin in your basement....anybody can SAY anything but these guys seem to be PROVING it.
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PROVE it? Ha! you're funny. So these guys show you video and you trust them. I don't care to prove it. I learned a long time ago that there is no proof. You will believe what you will believe. What I believe is that my archives show the block, pixilation, whatever you wanna call it.

I don't have "footage" and neither does SecureTeam. All they have is a slide show created by SOHO Movie Theater that is created by player. I compared my static copy, object to object with their "freeze frame".

Thiers has been GIMP'd.

While I certainly wouldn't believe NASA, I certainly wouldn't believe a bunch of people that have no reason, other than notoriety, to publish "proof" NASA is trying to keep us in the dark.

While I do believe NASA is keeping us in the dark about things, at least lets try and see the real truth. In this case, they're just playing to those who "want to believe".

I don't need to prove it. I know what the truth is and I did it by working my ass off. Its the only way to truly know.
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So why did you even bother posting? Are you paid per word or per post?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42656703


Some of you anti-sheople are hilarious! You're obviously not reading my other posts. You people who just want to believe anything anti-NASA or anti-government are so easily duped. One thing you need to realize is that government manipulates by the way it tells the truth, at times. (...which I admit, can people pretty damned few and far between!)

In this case, however, you are being taken for a ride by a bunch of publicity seekers. I'm not accusing them of being shills or trolls or disinfo agents, but, they are attention seekers. And you, as an anti-sheople, who will believe without verification other peoples' work, are part of the problem.

Go check it yourself. Oh, wait! I bet you're too technically inept to do so. I'm not. I have and these guys are full of shit. Believe me or don't. The truth is the truth and it does not require your allegiance.
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The University of YouTube confirms something, wow...
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Nice first post, shill. You clearly didn't watch the video, unless you manipulate time and managed to watch a 7 minute in under 1 minute of OP posting it.
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NOTHING WILL HAPPEN! GO BACK TO SLEEP! I'd love to see this on the new but it wont be on the news because we all knows who controls the news and that is the same people who control nasa and most importantly they control you! They prob control godlikeproductios so they can control what is going on and what people are thinking. Move on!
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NOTHING WILL HAPPEN! GO BACK TO SLEEP! I'd love to see this on the news but it wont be on the news because we all knows who controls the news and that is the same people who control nasa and most importantly they control you! They prob control godlikeproductios so they can control what is going on and what people are thinking. Move on!
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If they didn't "edit" the pictures at all, this is what you would see:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
That's what the raw frame looks like before processing. I processed the raw data myself, here's what it looks like:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
No "giant UFO," no "censor" either. It's a glitch with the automated processing. They don't sit there all day manually processing each image, its handled by an automated system. Sometimes it screws up the image for one reason or another, but the youtuber who made the video claimed to show the "original unedited picture." He didn't. He lied. Here's the original unedited picture:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
If you want to get to the bottom of things like this GO TO THE RAW IMAGE DATA AND PROCESS IT YOURSELF. Don't know how many times I have to say that. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that those who scream UFO every time SOHO's automated processing system fucks up an image are themselves completely incompetent and have no idea how to get the raw data, let alone process it. It's all right there:
[link to sharpp.nrl.navy.mil]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

A great point.
Thank you!
 Quoting: ~sIcKaNdTwIsTeD~


What's a great point?

Why is there one image with a censor and one without? And why would the automated system just happen to randomly place a block on top of the object in question?
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The point being that they claimed to present unedited data when in-fact they did not.
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hesright
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If they didn't "edit" the pictures at all, this is what you would see:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
That's what the raw frame looks like before processing. I processed the raw data myself, here's what it looks like:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
No "giant UFO," no "censor" either. It's a glitch with the automated processing. They don't sit there all day manually processing each image, its handled by an automated system. Sometimes it screws up the image for one reason or another, but the youtuber who made the video claimed to show the "original unedited picture." He didn't. He lied. Here's the original unedited picture:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
If you want to get to the bottom of things like this GO TO THE RAW IMAGE DATA AND PROCESS IT YOURSELF. Don't know how many times I have to say that. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that those who scream UFO every time SOHO's automated processing system fucks up an image are themselves completely incompetent and have no idea how to get the raw data, let alone process it. It's all right there:
[link to sharpp.nrl.navy.mil]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This is why I respect your opinion. You know how to solve these mysteries.

Thanks
 Quoting: Bear Drinker

Thanks. I just wish that those who know how to (and do) make youtube videos about these things also knew how to find and process the raw data. It would save a lot of wasted effort.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So what your saying is every single NASA image is beyond reproach and we are seeing things because we do not know how to look at the raw data? Why then replace it with a pixel square? Why not just leave it alone?
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It was processed by an automated system which I know for a fact sometimes fucks things up like that. If you don't know how to look at the raw data, well... Working with these images properly requires a certain amount of experience and expertise. I'm saying that when you see a problem with an image, ALWAYS ALWAYS look at the raw data.
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If they didn't "edit" the pictures at all, this is what you would see:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
That's what the raw frame looks like before processing. I processed the raw data myself, here's what it looks like:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
No "giant UFO," no "censor" either. It's a glitch with the automated processing. They don't sit there all day manually processing each image, its handled by an automated system. Sometimes it screws up the image for one reason or another, but the youtuber who made the video claimed to show the "original unedited picture." He didn't. He lied. Here's the original unedited picture:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
If you want to get to the bottom of things like this GO TO THE RAW IMAGE DATA AND PROCESS IT YOURSELF. Don't know how many times I have to say that. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that those who scream UFO every time SOHO's automated processing system fucks up an image are themselves completely incompetent and have no idea how to get the raw data, let alone process it. It's all right there:
[link to sharpp.nrl.navy.mil]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Can't raw data also be manipulated, nasa sees the anomalies and edits the raw data after the fact? I'm seriously asking.
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Then where is the "censor?" It's not up to me to prove a negative, but the claim is that they just flat out censored it. Can't have it both ways; either they're capable of seamlessly and undetectably editing it out of the raw data, or they simply put a block in front of it in the much-easier-to-manipulate 8 bit processed jpg images.
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I dont understand if it was a processing error why didnt it who the error the first time. And why did they re-process the data when they already processed it without the glitch.
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I'm sorry, what? I see no real indication that it was ever processed properly without a glitch. The processing I did shows what it looks like without any glitch; there's nothing there under the "box," just more solar corona. I'm the only presenting a real "un-glitched" version.
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If anything it seems almost to obvious, I could do a better job of covering it up in 10 secs on photoshop.

wtf
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I think tpretenderstb are trying to use a form of "reverse psychology." Hide UFO evidence and we'll want it all the more.

yawn
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This confirms earth is under quarantine and we are not supposed to know.
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most of us know who have read the ancient text and paid attention to the symbolism that has been left for us .
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Love This Shit.

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NASA - why don't y'all just stop the editing for petes sake? it's time.
 Quoting: woowoochic


If they didn't "edit" the pictures at all, this is what you would see:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
That's what the raw frame looks like before processing. I processed the raw data myself, here's what it looks like:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
No "giant UFO," no "censor" either. It's a glitch with the automated processing. They don't sit there all day manually processing each image, its handled by an automated system. Sometimes it screws up the image for one reason or another, but the youtuber who made the video claimed to show the "original unedited picture." He didn't. He lied. Here's the original unedited picture:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
If you want to get to the bottom of things like this GO TO THE RAW IMAGE DATA AND PROCESS IT YOURSELF. Don't know how many times I have to say that. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that those who scream UFO every time SOHO's automated processing system fucks up an image are themselves completely incompetent and have no idea how to get the raw data, let alone process it. It's all right there:
[link to sharpp.nrl.navy.mil]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

I don't think we really understand that this isn't "real-time" data like looking through a webcam or viewing a live stream broadcast. We "mundanes" (that's photography illiterates) see the videos with the timestamps and forget that we are looking at single snapshots which are then strung together in a sequence. It's not like a live video feed would be, right?
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Not at all. The data goes through heavy automated processing to reach a JPG format after it comes down from the spacecraft. It's not like my webcasts where you're seeing the raw unprocessed fits files before processing. If you're looking at an 8 bit JPG from SOHO, it's been processed, heavily. It has to be to get rid of all the glare from the sun, and to reduce the bit depth to a useable 8 bits. These are natively high bit depth images. In fact so are the ones from my camera, so in some ways they both go through automated processing; even my live images have had their levels adjusted automatically by the software to display an "8 bit range" that it thinks is useful within the full 16 bit image.
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Astro, that is a bunch of horseshit. It simply is. Obvious shilling is obvious.

How on earth does it happen that NASA has a square that is put over what appears to be some kind of strange object...oh, let us say...A SPACE SHIP....and not SOME OTHER PLACE ON THIS IMAGE?????? Why THAT specific block that just happens to cover up THAT ONE PIECE?

To even try to justify this is absolutely ridiculous. NASA is lying. They lie all the time. I'm sure they have a long and rich history of lies of varying complexities.

Bottom line....I don't know what this is, neither do you. But if these guys are correct, and I have no reason to doubt that their presentation of the images is correct...then NASA DELIBERATELY COVERED UP THIS OBJECT. This is not part of any kind of "processing" unless it's "truth" processing.

We live in a VAST universe and we cannot be the only planet with complex life. Sentient life. Life that thinks, communicates, builds things and TRAVELS. Why do you people always try to cover up anything that even IMPLIES that there is life on other planets - or even other dimensions - and that they travel around through our solar system and even visit the planets like ours, or the Sun. Why BOTHER even arguing such a stupid thing?

You can say that we don't know what that object is and that is a fine and responsible point of view. But to just cover the goddam thing up and then put out obvious bullshit about that it's some kind of photo processing is just insulting to human intelligence. It's also obviously done to prevent people from believing that there might be intelligent and traveling life either on another planet...or maybe even on this one for all we know.

Can the balloon juice. Unless you're going to use it to power one of those "weather balloons" you all used to be so fond of.

Or...EUREKA!!!!....maybe it's the planet VENUS!!!!!!!!!!
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Because fake, fraud etc.. actually harms the UFO subject.
Each fake discredit a little more the subject in the eyes of the masses.
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Arguing with shills from Germany or routed government shills accomplishes nothing.. Fuck Them
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I don't understand :
In the conspiracy world, people are suspicious with all the official agencies, which is a good thing, but they can be at the same time totally gullible with groups such as ADG(UK) or secureteam10 just because they are supposed to be "on our side".
Don't believe anything, ask for evidence or proof, research.
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Nope, I personally have many questions about this subject. Even I can tell when a dis-information troll is about. I see several on this post. You however are on my I will watch and see. Question. If you live in France and are French, why is your English so shall we say authentic??
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Probably because I read/write english on forum/internet for almost 15 years.
Just search for my ID 1011606, I have hundreds of posts, I'm sure there are lots a text where you can see that I m french.
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Astro, I don't seem to be able to retrieve any of the pictures dated on the 12th of May 2014. I've adjusted the time range multiple times, didn't tick any boxes. However, when I just do the default query 1/1/1996 I get them.

This is the first time I do a query on Lasco/EIT. What am I doing wrong? Thx.
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This is why I respect your opinion. You know how to solve these mysteries.

Thanks
 Quoting: Bear Drinker

Thanks. I just wish that those who know how to (and do) make youtube videos about these things also knew how to find and process the raw data. It would save a lot of wasted effort.
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So what your saying is every single NASA image is beyond reproach and we are seeing things because we do not know how to look at the raw data? Why then replace it with a pixel square? Why not just leave it alone?
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It was processed by an automated system which I know for a fact sometimes fucks things up like that. If you don't know how to look at the raw data, well... Working with these images properly requires a certain amount of experience and expertise. I'm saying that when you see a problem with an image, ALWAYS ALWAYS look at the raw data.
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Understood, but my question is, if it was a glitch why did NASA go in and pixel block it? Why not just leave it alone? Why take the time to go into the data and put up a obvious block on the image?
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Astro, that is a bunch of horseshit. It simply is. Obvious shilling is obvious.

How on earth does it happen that NASA has a square that is put over what appears to be some kind of strange object...oh, let us say...A SPACE SHIP....and not SOME OTHER PLACE ON THIS IMAGE??????
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There is no space ship. The raw data shows that there's nothing there, just normal solar corona. This is your problem for taking the word of a YouTuber over NASA without doing the proper research by analyzing the raw data yourself.
To even try to justify this is absolutely ridiculous. NASA is lying.
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The YouTuber is lying. They did NOT show you the "unedited image."
Bottom line....I don't know what this is, neither do you.
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Yes, I do. Another idiotic youtube video with no basis in fact.
But if these guys are correct, and I have no reason to doubt that their presentation of the images is correct...
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That's because you automatically trust them, automatically distrust NASA, and automatically ignore any evidence I present that shows that the YouTubers were lying. That is your bias, nothing more, based on no evidence, and completely contradicted by the evidence.
then NASA DELIBERATELY COVERED UP THIS OBJECT.
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THE YOUTUBER DELIBERATELY LIED. See? Two can play that game.
This is not part of any kind of "processing" unless it's "truth" processing.
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This is the raw image converted directly to JPG without any processing:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
This is very much about processing. Here it is manually processed by me:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
No spaceship, no censor. End of story.
We live in a VAST universe and we cannot be the only planet with complex life. Sentient life. Life that thinks, communicates, builds things and TRAVELS. Why do you people always try to cover up anything that even IMPLIES that there is life on other planets - or even other dimensions - and that they travel around through our solar system and even visit the planets like ours, or the Sun. Why BOTHER even arguing such a stupid thing?
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That does not mean that NASA lied, covered anything up, or that the YouTuber told the truth. I know for a fact that they didn't, and I will stop at nothing to expose liars like that. You are defending a known lie. You have shown you are immune to evidence. Your opinion is therefore irrelevant.
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Thanks. I just wish that those who know how to (and do) make youtube videos about these things also knew how to find and process the raw data. It would save a lot of wasted effort.
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So what your saying is every single NASA image is beyond reproach and we are seeing things because we do not know how to look at the raw data? Why then replace it with a pixel square? Why not just leave it alone?
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It was processed by an automated system which I know for a fact sometimes fucks things up like that. If you don't know how to look at the raw data, well... Working with these images properly requires a certain amount of experience and expertise. I'm saying that when you see a problem with an image, ALWAYS ALWAYS look at the raw data.
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Understood, but my question is, if it was a glitch why did NASA go in and pixel block it?
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The glitch IS the "pixel block."
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I wish I knew how to correctly get all the original data myself because this is very interesting. However, I will say: secureteam10 is one of the big YT UFO channels that frequently puts cgi fakes up. They usually only have an interest in clicks and views and don't really care about fake/not fake....so I'm quite skeptical. I want to believe though.
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So what your saying is every single NASA image is beyond reproach and we are seeing things because we do not know how to look at the raw data? Why then replace it with a pixel square? Why not just leave it alone?
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It was processed by an automated system which I know for a fact sometimes fucks things up like that. If you don't know how to look at the raw data, well... Working with these images properly requires a certain amount of experience and expertise. I'm saying that when you see a problem with an image, ALWAYS ALWAYS look at the raw data.
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Understood, but my question is, if it was a glitch why did NASA go in and pixel block it?
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The glitch IS the "pixel block."
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Hmmm..ok well that seems to be a convenient block with a very unusual placement. So this does not fly with me regardless of the raw data or the YT video. The fact that a glitch "pixel block" automatically appeared on that one object seems to be outside the norm with as many weird objects that have been seen on that LASCO over the years that did not get a Glitch "auto pixel block" on them. Also some of the other covering glitches seem to be fudging images, cutting out images or just replacing or removing the entire frame that contains an anomaly.
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I've got to make up some kind of nice image of a cat in a space suit so I can instantly have your level of "credibility".

Astro, that is just plain horseshit. I challenge you to contact these investigators personally and discuss this image with them and then post the results. I CHALLENGE YOU PERSONALLY TO DO THIS.

You are always up NASA's ass and NASA's ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS tries to stop ANY ideas that there might be LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS AND THAT THEY TRAVEL AROUND. Both of which are the only logical conclusion a thinking person can come to. What, are we the ONLY intelligent life in the UNIVERSE? I'm not even sure the most ardent Bible Belters believe something THAT stupid.

NASA covered up this ONE block on that image and they covered it up to hide that object, whatever it is. BECAUSE THEY WANT TO COVER UP THE IDEA THAT THERE IS INTELLIGENT AND TRAVELING LIFE ELSEWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE. And that is a RIDICULOUS and INSULTING thing to do. and believe.

As I say...if you are calling these investigators with their YT video LIARS...then I challenge you to contact them directly, TELL THEM THEY ARE LIARS and argue it out with them and post the results here.

Then maybe you will have some credibility. Until then you are just another NASA shill.

And guess what...if I have a choice of whether to believe some private researchers or an enormous government agency...guess who I am inclined to believe? The private researchers, because unlike virtually EVERY government agency, they don't have a long history of LYING TO US CONSTANTLY and using our TAX money to hide whatever bullshit they're REALLY doing. Even if it's just waste.

Only an idiot automatically believes ANYTHING the government puts out. I am a skeptic. It's the only sensible position to take.

So go contact those researchers, I'm sure with your superior intellect and resources, you can find them pretty easily. Let's have a debate.
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There’s two opposing questions that I have.

Why would they cover it up, if there was nothing to be seen? This gives the whole thing legitimacy. You don’t cover something up if you aren’t hiding something.

And, why would they do such a lousy job of covering it up given the technology and software that exist in the market place today? This is NASA who supposedly hires the best of the best, and that’s what they come up with? It’s almost as if they want us to see it? Maybe employees doing a sloppy job on purpose?

While I have no idea whether that’s a UFO, Alien Mother Ship, Stars, Planets or the like the simple fact is they covered it up. At that point who cares what it is. However, why do such a poor job cover it up. It perplexes me on both sides.
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I don't get it. Astroturd, Hydra, and all the really smart space posters say that NASA is honest, and never tells lies. Tee hee...
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cause they're idiots....
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Tee hee...

That's funny! I mean, really, NASA is a government funded corporation.

Unfortunately, the ones that are lying are your SecureTeam people. Never underestimate the desire to drum up publicity amonsts government doubters by using photoshop.

I call many who are on here the "anti-sheople". They're simply sheople on the other side of the fence. They'll believe anyone who says "NASA is lying!!!". Well, I'm here to tell you, I'm not sheople on either side of the fence.

One thing that must be understood is that government does only three things:

It lies.
It steals.
It murders.

All things that are accomplished by government "for the people" are one or a combination of the above actions.

If anyone finds this not to be true in *ANY* instance, please reply to this message and tell me about it. I've never seen a case where one, two or three of the obove actions did not take place as a *PRINCIPAL* part of any government project. Frankly, many use all three. It starts with

All government is subterfuge. Anyone who doesn't realize this is not a just a moran. We enlightened ones tend to call them sheople and so on, but they really aren't bad or stupid, well, not all of them. I know why they believe. It is because there are a lot of honest people. Honest people believe that most people are like them. Well, this may be true, however, the artificial persons known as "corporations" are fictions designed to take that inate belief and turn it in to profit$. They are controlled mostly be psychopaths and care not what is good for anyone other than themselves.

The sooner the majority realizes this, the sooner they'll understand that the largest corporation in America, the US FED Gov, Inc., is really out to get you, or, rather, your value and doesn't give a rat's ass how painful or damaging or unhealthy or murderous they have to be to get it.

NASA: Just another arm of US FED Gov. Inc designed to take your money and use it against you. But, regardless, not everything NASA sends to us is a lie. They can't do it that way. It has to be very strategic.

The boy who cried wolf screwed himself over. These people in our government are much more skillful than the boy who cried wolf. They know if they lie too much, they lie will get worn and then no one will listen. Of course, they'd learn to use that against us too.

Just be careful. Don't believe a bunch of people that call themselves "SecureTeam" just becaue they say this or that and they have a cool sounding name. Verify. The problem is, most people don't have the where with all to verify squat. This is why they are sheople, or if burned a few times (burn=sheared), anti-sheople. Being an expert and professional in multiple fields gives me a unique view of much of what is going on today. In some ways, its far worse than you can even imagine. In other ways, its not nearly as bad as the squawking anti-sheople portray it.

After watching all this stuff for so many years I now realize that even the people that you may think are "on your side" are, some cases, actually there to muddy the waters for their own benefit or are actually government disinformation agents to further the affectiveness of government lies.

Here is my wish for you:

May you all have good discernment.
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You sir nailed it, if only everyone could think similar to you.

On topic though if you rotate the Pleiades star cluster it's an exact match. Not sure about the positioning of the stars however and the angle from which these photos were taken so not sure if that is the actual place where Pleiades resides or if they photoshopped a photo of it into there.

THIS THREAD IS
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PICTURE WITH 'GLITCH': [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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If anyone here believes these researchers are LYING...and I don't know them so I can't say one way or another....I challenge you to contact them directly, TELL THEM THEY ARE LYING, have a debate with them, and post the results here. Other wise, I have no reason to doubt them as I am nearly 60 years old and I have seen the government lie about virtually every topic since my childhood, over and over and over again. The government has ZERO credibility. I don't know what credibility these guys have. But I think the best way of determining that is to have one of you who think they are LYING, tackle the bull by the horns and directly tell them that.

I would be interested to see the results. In fact, I may try to contact them directly later and see if they would like to discuss the info on this thread.
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It's the "7 sisters" star cluster. One click in photoshops bandaid tool would edit that out seamlessly. This is a "glitch"
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The stars that make up the Pleiades have never looked all spaced out and ordered like that since I've been looking at them and that's going on 48 years tomorrow.

I've seen the Pleiades on SOHO images before, and that isn't close. It might not be an alien spaceship, but I don't think it's the Pleiades either.
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Happy early bday :)

Back on topic, I couldn't make it though the whole video. Usually in the morning I'm too mentally active to listen to a slow speaking video. I mean if you don't know what SOHO stands for you should look it up...

I wish there was an Internet 2.0 for more advanced studies...
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I couldn't agree more.

lots of blah blah blah for one frame

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

saying that, it was edited out after he said that he contacted NASA.

sort of interesting, but there are far more compelling instances of UFO's. There used to be some mind blowing ones from the 90's and early 2000's that LASCO actually linked to on thier site without explanation.

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