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Could Photons Travel Through Time Using Wormholes?

 
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Could Photons Travel Through Time Using Wormholes?
Of all the things science fiction has portrayed, time travel is by far the coolest. Sadly, reality and the laws of physics that come with it have basically eliminated all hope of a wormhole opening up and allowing us to travel through time… unless you’re a photon. Luke Butcher of the University of Cambridge has written a paper, describing a potential form of a wormhole that could be held open long enough to allow a photon to pass through. The paper has been submitted to the journal Physical Review D and has been published on arXiv.org in an open access format.

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of course, duh
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Photons travel at the speed if light. From the perspective of the photon, time does not exist.
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yes but only if they have been coupled with monatomic elements.
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Photons travel at the speed if light. From the perspective of the photon, time does not exist.
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but the speed of light is not a constant as previously thought, therefore some photons are travelling faster or slower than others and thus there is a differential.

do you understand what this differential means to the universe?
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Of all the things science fiction has portrayed, time travel is by far the coolest. Sadly, reality and the laws of physics that come with it have basically eliminated all hope of a wormhole opening up and allowing us to travel through time… unless you’re a photon. Luke Butcher of the University of Cambridge has written a paper, describing a potential form of a wormhole that could be held open long enough to allow a photon to pass through. The paper has been submitted to the journal Physical Review D and has been published on arXiv.org in an open access format.

More: [link to articles.factspocket.com]
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photon don't travel, in other words its nature is always at rest...better luck next time.
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Photons travel at the speed if light. From the perspective of the photon, time does not exist.
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but the speed of light is not a constant as previously thought, therefore some photons are travelling faster or slower than others and thus there is a differential.

do you understand what this differential means to the universe?
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Please show evidence of a photon traveling slower or faster than the speed of light.
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Photons travel at the speed if light. From the perspective of the photon, time does not exist.
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but the speed of light is not a constant as previously thought, therefore some photons are travelling faster or slower than others and thus there is a differential.

do you understand what this differential means to the universe?
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Please show evidence of a photon traveling slower or faster than the speed of light.
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Here.

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All matter consists of energy,time is an expression of energy.
If you can manipulate energy you can also manipulate matter and time.
As for going back in time i doubt its possible as you would need to alter the energy levels of the entire universe.
Big bang time was zero and as the universe expanded time/energy was spread thinner so time slowed down.
Its why there is an arrow of time its due to the expansion of the universe.
As Albert Einstein showed objects that are accelerated to near the speed of light there relative time is slowed the reason is due to the fact all the energy has allowed your rate of energy to be higher than the background.Once you slow down it reverts to the relative normal.
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Wormholes would allow for transport of particles from one place to another within the same timestream, however it would not zap any particle forward or backward in time. The particles would not be travelling at faster than light speeds, only at their allowable velocity. The illusion of faster than light travel is present only because of the link between two (or more) places and particle arrival time being much shorter than conventional travel.
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Because you cant go faster than light as the theory goes once you reach it any more acceleration will just increase the mass of the object Bosons must be some kind of limiting factor.
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Photons travel at the speed if light. From the perspective of the photon, time does not exist.
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but the speed of light is not a constant as previously thought, therefore some photons are travelling faster or slower than others and thus there is a differential.

do you understand what this differential means to the universe?
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Please show evidence of a photon traveling slower or faster than the speed of light.
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Here.

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No evidence presented, rather theory and interpretation. However, to be clear, I'm not questioning the possibility. Light travels at the SOL and in so doing, is already "time traveling". Have you considered that light has opened such a "wormhole" and everything is traveling within it? Note that evidence suggests that to travel at the SOL, a particle (mass) would obtain infinite mass. Does this suggests light is a wave? Perhaps. The double slit experiment suggest it may be both dependent upon observation. Is it possible that light has infinite mass and "matter" is the result? Anything is possible.
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but the speed of light is not a constant as previously thought, therefore some photons are travelling faster or slower than others and thus there is a differential.

do you understand what this differential means to the universe?
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Please show evidence of a photon traveling slower or faster than the speed of light.
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Here.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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No evidence presented, rather theory and interpretation. However, to be clear, I'm not questioning the possibility. Light travels at the SOL and in so doing, is already "time traveling". Have you considered that light has opened such a "wormhole" and everything is traveling within it? Note that evidence suggests that to travel at the SOL, a particle (mass) would obtain infinite mass. Does this suggests light is a wave? Perhaps. The double slit experiment suggest it may be both dependent upon observation. Is it possible that light has infinite mass and "matter" is the result? Anything is possible.
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There is no time, its all at once. Time is a program in your brain, connected to our orbit around our star, but once out of the body, its gone.
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Please show evidence of a photon traveling slower or faster than the speed of light.
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Here.

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No evidence presented, rather theory and interpretation. However, to be clear, I'm not questioning the possibility. Light travels at the SOL and in so doing, is already "time traveling". Have you considered that light has opened such a "wormhole" and everything is traveling within it? Note that evidence suggests that to travel at the SOL, a particle (mass) would obtain infinite mass. Does this suggests light is a wave? Perhaps. The double slit experiment suggest it may be both dependent upon observation. Is it possible that light has infinite mass and "matter" is the result? Anything is possible.
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Here's another quantum leap. If light were to travel FTL, it would "appear" to travel backward in time to an observer outside the reference frame and the observation would not be made. Within the same reference frame, time would stop or even move backwards, and again the observation would not take place. See how that smells.
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Photons travel at the speed if light. From the perspective of the photon, time does not exist.
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but the speed of light is not a constant as previously thought, therefore some photons are travelling faster or slower than others and thus there is a differential.

do you understand what this differential means to the universe?
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The speed of light is absolutely constant in a vacuum. How do I know? Because if it wasn't, then E=MC^2 would not predict the amount of energy coming out of a nuclear reactor or a nuclear bomb. Yet we can tell with absolute precision how much bang we'll get from a certain mass and that's because the speed of light is a constant.
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Photons travel at the speed if light. From the perspective of the photon, time does not exist.
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but the speed of light is not a constant as previously thought, therefore some photons are travelling faster or slower than others and thus there is a differential.

do you understand what this differential means to the universe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58469100



The speed of light is absolutely constant in a vacuum. How do I know? Because if it wasn't, then E=MC^2 would not predict the amount of energy coming out of a nuclear reactor or a nuclear bomb. Yet we can tell with absolute precision how much bang we'll get from a certain mass and that's because the speed of light is a constant.
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Photons travel at the speed if light. From the perspective of the photon, time does not exist.
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but the speed of light is not a constant as previously thought, therefore some photons are travelling faster or slower than others and thus there is a differential.

do you understand what this differential means to the universe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58469100



The speed of light is absolutely constant in a vacuum. How do I know? Because if it wasn't, then E=MC^2 would not predict the amount of energy coming out of a nuclear reactor or a nuclear bomb. Yet we can tell with absolute precision how much bang we'll get from a certain mass and that's because the speed of light is a constant.
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[link to www.popsci.com]
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...new physics paper suggests... proof is in the pudding. You have no pudding there.
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but the speed of light is not a constant as previously thought, therefore some photons are travelling faster or slower than others and thus there is a differential.

do you understand what this differential means to the universe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58469100



The speed of light is absolutely constant in a vacuum. How do I know? Because if it wasn't, then E=MC^2 would not predict the amount of energy coming out of a nuclear reactor or a nuclear bomb. Yet we can tell with absolute precision how much bang we'll get from a certain mass and that's because the speed of light is a constant.
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[link to www.popsci.com]
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...new physics paper suggests... proof is in the pudding. You have no pudding there.
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im sorry im just ahead of the game.
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Re: Could Photons Travel Through Time Using Wormholes?
wouldn't the energy of anything passing through a wormhole not only keep it open, but 'expand in kind' to allow it to pass though?

the very instance of any object being accepted by the wormhole in the first place seems to indicate that passing through will be a given.

just because a photon is smaller than a human does not mean that's the only parameter which makes passage allowable. the energy of a photon could be much less than the energy of a human, yet, it doesn't mean the human is too big to achieve the same affect.

besides, should wormholes exist, who's to say that should one open, that 'passage' through it is not rather instantaneous? the very opening of a portal between 'point a and point b' seems to indicate that this hole, by its very existence, is but one point in the scheme of things.

at least, this is how my mind conceives it.

all things are connected in one way or another. finding a way to your point b has not yet been put into motion.
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