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GOP votes 'no' to build 27 new VA hospitals and expand veterans' health care
A vote was called in the United States Senate to approve a $24 billion bill to expand federal health care and education programs for veterans. As Reuters points out, the bill would have funded the creation of 27 much needed VA hospitals and medical facilities.

"Supporters said the measure would have brought the most significant changes in decades to U.S. veterans' programs. For example, it called for 27 new medical facilities to help a healthcare system that is strained by veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars."

With 60 votes needed to pass the bill, it was shut down in partisan fashion by a vote of 56-41. All but four of the 45 Senate Republicans voted no on the bill and it was quickly forgotten. Republicans attempted to attach an amendment to the bill for increased sanctions on Iran, but there was no movement by the Democrats.

[link to www.examiner.com]

Here is the thing, this is not the only thing republicans have pushed against veteran benefits. They voted against the veteran's job bill, against building more hospitals, against increase funding, trying to take away disability rights of vets.

Hypocrites...
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"(Texas Republicans) believe in abolishing Social Security, abolishing V.A. health care.

[link to www.politifact.com]
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Yeah, thanks for your service, get your checkbook out...
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Republicans Seek To Cut Benefits for Disabled Veterans

[link to www.disabledveterans.org]
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"(Texas Republicans) believe in abolishing Social Security, abolishing V.A. health care.

[link to www.politifact.com]
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Man, that would be awesome if they abolished that pyramid scheme Social Security.
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GOP blocks veterans jobs bill with budget vote

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Remember what Henry Kissinger said about members of the military...brute beasts and whatnot. No surprise here especially when you ponder the rate of automation happening in the Armed Forces, DARPA, et al...
Its all about the dollar bill Red and never forget it.
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John Boehner Wants To Harm Veterans Even More By Privatizing The VA

Republicans are up to their same old bullshit of trying to paid their friends pockets through privatizations.
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Re: GOP votes 'no' to build 27 new VA hospitals and expand veterans' health care
A vote was called in the United States Senate to approve a $24 billion bill to expand federal health care and education programs for veterans. As Reuters points out, the bill would have funded the creation of 27 much needed VA hospitals and medical facilities.

"Supporters said the measure would have brought the most significant changes in decades to U.S. veterans' programs. For example, it called for 27 new medical facilities to help a healthcare system that is strained by veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars."

With 60 votes needed to pass the bill, it was shut down in partisan fashion by a vote of 56-41. All but four of the 45 Senate Republicans voted no on the bill and it was quickly forgotten. Republicans attempted to attach an amendment to the bill for increased sanctions on Iran, but there was no movement by the Democrats.

[link to www.examiner.com]

Here is the thing, this is not the only thing republicans have pushed against veteran benefits. They voted against the veteran's job bill, against building more hospitals, against increase funding, trying to take away disability rights of vets.

Hypocrites...
 Quoting: CountryPumpkin


time to vote all these career politicians out and bring in the "new" guys the underdogs. We cannot do any worse.
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John Boehner Wants To Harm Veterans Even More By Privatizing The VA

Republicans are up to their same old bullshit of trying to paid their friends pockets through privatizations.
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Sure, it's no good unless some plutocrat is making money off of it.

Unless we're talking carbon credits, then the markets have it all wrong!!
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Republicans Seek To Cut Benefits for Disabled Veterans

[link to www.disabledveterans.org]
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They let our VETs die just wait until we are all dependent on gov controlled OMAMAMACARE!
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Its a damn shame the republicans are playing politics over this when their hands are just as red.
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OP, are you gonna pay for those hospitals?

How much of your welfare are you willing to give up for those hospitals to be built?


BTW, you can build 10000 hospitals but if the healthcare received in the hospitals is shit, then what good was it to spend a shitload of money building hospitals?
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Yeah, thanks for your service, get your checkbook out...
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typical republican response...
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This is BS. VA budget has increased over 60% since 2009 and the number of vets in the USA has dropped 4 million in the last 10 years as the WWII vets die.
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OP, are you gonna pay for those hospitals?

How much of your welfare are you willing to give up for those hospitals to be built?


BTW, you can build 10000 hospitals but if the healthcare received in the hospitals is shit, then what good was it to spend a shitload of money building hospitals?
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I've watched the va take damn good care of my father, sending him to specialist inside and outside the system.
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Just give the Vets a voucher to go where ever they want. VA healthcare is crap. Im a Vet and most of my Vet friends wish they would just transfer their healthcare to the private sector..

God bell all those who have served their country..
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This is BS. VA budget has increased over 60% since 2009 and the number of vets in the USA has dropped 4 million in the last 10 years as the WWII vets die.
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Perhaps the wars the republicans started has something to do with lack of appropriate funding?
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This is BS. VA budget has increased over 60% since 2009 and the number of vets in the USA has dropped 4 million in the last 10 years as the WWII vets die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46648385


Perhaps the wars the republicans started has something to do with lack of appropriate funding?
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you are fucking awesome OP.
keep up the good work ;)

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"(Texas Republicans) believe in abolishing Social Security, abolishing V.A. health care.

[link to www.politifact.com]
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Both should be abolished.
...and then run PRIVATELY.

Clearly the government can't run either of them without killing people or ripping off the funds for other pork projects.

:honac:

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Just give the Vets a voucher to go where ever they want. VA healthcare is crap. Im a Vet and most of my Vet friends wish they would just transfer their healthcare to the private sector..

God bell all those who have served their country..
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I know this is bullshit, that is why vets are fighting against doing this. Obviously the majority are happy with the care.
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"(Texas Republicans) believe in abolishing Social Security, abolishing V.A. health care.

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 Quoting: CountryPumpkin


Both should be abolished.
...and then run PRIVATELY.

Clearly the government can't run either of them without killing people or ripping off the funds for other pork projects.

:honac:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Keep the VA out of the hands of the 3%. Privatization is nothing more than a scam.
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This is BS. VA budget has increased over 60% since 2009 and the number of vets in the USA has dropped 4 million in the last 10 years as the WWII vets die.
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oh and my father is 87, a ww2 veteran.....
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It's no secret that Republicans of today care little about anything except their own wallet.

Richard Nixon made the first serious run at universal healthcare. Republicans of today, they'd rather their fellow Americans die.

Richard Nixon created the EPA and signed the Clean Air Act. Republicans of today have utter contempt for anything that could possibly protect the environment.

Republicans of the last decade were certainly more gung-ho than the Democrats in getting us into the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Republicans of today, as the OP's link shows, vote 41-4 against new VA hospitals.

Lincoln freed the slaves, and Republicans were essential in passing the Civil Rights Act. Republicans of today, certain demented elements of them, influenced by hard right talk radio and media, despise their fellow Americans who's skin color happens to be a different shade then theirs, or has a sexual orientation that makes them uncomfortable.

It doesn't matter, the putrid Republican philosophy of today is going to crush the Grand Old Party and send it squarely into the dustbin of history. You all can thank Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and their ilk for that.
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"(Texas Republicans) believe in abolishing Social Security, abolishing V.A. health care.

[link to www.politifact.com]
 Quoting: CountryPumpkin


Both should be abolished.
...and then run PRIVATELY.

Clearly the government can't run either of them without killing people or ripping off the funds for other pork projects.

:honac:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Keep the VA out of the hands of the 3%. Privatization is nothing more than a scam.
 Quoting: CountryPumpkin


1) Clearly the SCAM is government operating the VA. grnrolleyes

How VA hospitals are a government-run disaster
[link to nypost.com]

2) Clearly again, since the SS fund is full of IOU's and no longer exists as a fund....the GOVERNMENT scammed us again. grnrolleyes

The Truth about How Bankrupt the Social Security System Is
[link to www.economicpolicyjournal.com]

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Do you know how many HOSPITALS there are in this country, how many medical facilities and Dr.'s offices?

Maybe instead of building more VA's, we need to change the way we take care of our vets and guarantee their medical coverage at ANY facility.

Let's cut through the red tape and not add to the deficit.

Give our vets the same coverage that our politicians enjoy.

Or better.

Take care of these ladies and gentlemen properly.

Stop making excuses.

We don't need 27 new VA Hospitals to take care of our vets.

We need to be taking care of our vets right, immediately.

What's ridiculous is that vets have to dick around with the VA in the first place.

Get them taken care of and taken care of right.
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The privatization scam: Five government outsourcing horror stories


For decades we’ve been subjected to constant propaganda that government is inefficient, bureaucratic and expensive. We’re told that the answer is to “privatize,” or “outsource” government functions to private businesses and they will do things more efficiently and everyone comes out ahead. As a result we have experienced decades of privatization of government functions.

So how has this wave of privatization worked out? Has privatization saved taxpayers money and improved services to citizens? Simple answer: of course not. If a company can make a profit doing something the government had been doing, it means that we’re losing out one way or another. It’s simple math. And the result of falling for the privatization scam is that taxpayers have been fleeced, services to citizens have been cut way back and communities have been made poorer. But the companies that convinced governments to hand over public functions have gotten rich off of the deal. How is this a surprise?

Here are five privatization horror stories, where government outsourcing has gone terribly wrong. (Or maybe you’d say it has gone terribly right if you are one of the companies getting the taxpayer dollars.)

[link to www.nationofchange.org]
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Do you know how many HOSPITALS there are in this country, how many medical facilities and Dr.'s offices?

Maybe instead of building more VA's, we need to change the way we take care of our vets and guarantee their medical coverage at ANY facility.

Let's cut through the red tape and not add to the deficit.

Give our vets the same coverage that our politicians enjoy.

Or better.

Take care of these ladies and gentlemen properly.

Stop making excuses.

We don't need 27 new VA Hospitals to take care of our vets.

We need to be taking care of our vets right, immediately.

What's ridiculous is that vets have to dick around with the VA in the first place.

Get them taken care of and taken care of right.
 Quoting: Em18966


The crux of the problem is that there are too many vets and not enough health facilities....

It doesn't matter the number of hospitals there are now...there are not enough. Does that make sense to you?

Let me spell it out....

There are more veterans than facilities.
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"(Texas Republicans) believe in abolishing Social Security, abolishing V.A. health care.

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I agree with the REPUBLICAN Patriotic view on both of these issues.

Until the CORRUPT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is PROSECUTED for their CRIMES against Veterans and Americans, they should not be in Charge of or get one more Tax Paid penny to do a damn thing.

The Federal Goverment is WAY TO BIG TO FAIL. CORRUPT TO THE CORE.

They fire NO ONE after all the scandals. PAY THEMSELVES LUXURIOUSLY and get PENSIONS and HEALTHCARE american citizens could only dream about having.

TIRED OF THIS CRAP. R u really that much of a Sheep you dont get it ???

The hardworking, tax paying american citizens NEED TO BE IN CHARGE.....Not the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT from DC.

WTF Up
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Democrats Kill VA accountability Bill!

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"(Texas Republicans) believe in abolishing Social Security, abolishing V.A. health care.

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I agree with the REPUBLICAN Patriotic view on both of these issues.

Until the CORRUPT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is PROSECUTED for their CRIMES against Veterans and Americans, they should not be in Charge of or get one more Tax Paid penny to do a damn thing.

The Federal Goverment is WAY TO BIG TO FAIL. CORRUPT TO THE CORE.

They fire NO ONE after all the scandals. PAY THEMSELVES LUXURIOUSLY and get PENSIONS and HEALTHCARE american citizens could only dream about having.

TIRED OF THIS CRAP. R u really that much of a Sheep you dont get it ???

The hardworking, tax paying american citizens NEED TO BE IN CHARGE.....Not the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT from DC.

WTF Up
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