IS GOLD FINALLY GOING TO GET ITS FINAL WASHOUT I HOPE??? | |
Antipodean User ID: 15922702 Australia 10/08/2014 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately I hit a lot of my stops with that drop so I lost a lot of my gains (I had got pretty aggressive in my positions!) But you still think 1240 for gold? |
Punk-A$$ets (OP) User ID: 30559668 United States 10/08/2014 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the hell happened over there today?! I woke up and saw the metals were about the same price as when I went to bed last night. Then I noticed the lows!! What was that plunge?! Then the spike back up was insane. Quoting: Antipodean Unfortunately I hit a lot of my stops with that drop so I lost a lot of my gains (I had got pretty aggressive in my positions!) But you still think 1240 for gold? Oh wow, you got stopped out. I was out most of the day and so I am still trying to get caught up news - wise but trying to quantify the move I see the dollar really looks to have made a short term top combined with more dovish babble from the FED. It was all going to happen anyway so the news is just a catalyst I guess. Well, $1240 is a start. We're so crazy oversold a bounce was bound to happen. I'll keep an eye on it but it'd be easy to just miss the entire move on this one. I still think we roll over to new lows. Maybe I am the ultimate contrarian indicator. |
Punk-A$$ets (OP) User ID: 30559668 United States 10/08/2014 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out the fricken volume in the miner ETFs. OMG. HUGE. Im taking a long position tomorrow morning. The inverse ETFs have a reversal candle that looks HORRIBLE. I doubt that gets corrected in a day or 2. So, a small trade AT LEAST should be right in front of us IMO. HUI hit 183ish and thats close enough to the 180 support for me (going back to April 2005). |
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Antipodean User ID: 60752652 Australia 10/08/2014 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the hell happened over there today?! I woke up and saw the metals were about the same price as when I went to bed last night. Then I noticed the lows!! What was that plunge?! Then the spike back up was insane. Quoting: Antipodean Unfortunately I hit a lot of my stops with that drop so I lost a lot of my gains (I had got pretty aggressive in my positions!) But you still think 1240 for gold? Oh wow, you got stopped out. I was out most of the day and so I am still trying to get caught up news - wise but trying to quantify the move I see the dollar really looks to have made a short term top combined with more dovish babble from the FED. It was all going to happen anyway so the news is just a catalyst I guess. Well, $1240 is a start. We're so crazy oversold a bounce was bound to happen. I'll keep an eye on it but it'd be easy to just miss the entire move on this one. I still think we roll over to new lows. Maybe I am the ultimate contrarian indicator. Mmm I had a pretty big long silver position open with a trailing stop. So that plunge triggered that stop, my Gold positions held with stops set at 1203, so that bounced back nice. I'm betting that metals will push up towards the 13 handle for gold before they reverse. But what do I know! I think I need to be more conservative this time around, cashing in more profits on the way up and slowly backing out. All it will take is another surge in the dollar and I'll lose all my gains! |
Punk-A$$ets (OP) User ID: 30559668 United States 10/08/2014 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the hell happened over there today?! I woke up and saw the metals were about the same price as when I went to bed last night. Then I noticed the lows!! What was that plunge?! Then the spike back up was insane. Quoting: Antipodean Unfortunately I hit a lot of my stops with that drop so I lost a lot of my gains (I had got pretty aggressive in my positions!) But you still think 1240 for gold? Oh wow, you got stopped out. I was out most of the day and so I am still trying to get caught up news - wise but trying to quantify the move I see the dollar really looks to have made a short term top combined with more dovish babble from the FED. It was all going to happen anyway so the news is just a catalyst I guess. Well, $1240 is a start. We're so crazy oversold a bounce was bound to happen. I'll keep an eye on it but it'd be easy to just miss the entire move on this one. I still think we roll over to new lows. Maybe I am the ultimate contrarian indicator. Mmm I had a pretty big long silver position open with a trailing stop. So that plunge triggered that stop, my Gold positions held with stops set at 1203, so that bounced back nice. I'm betting that metals will push up towards the 13 handle for gold before they reverse. But what do I know! I think I need to be more conservative this time around, cashing in more profits on the way up and slowly backing out. All it will take is another surge in the dollar and I'll lose all my gains! If we make it up to $1300+ on gold it will be a fantastic run for leveraged miners! I hope so. I run high % stops on the miners. I dont mind eating a few stops to catch one nice run. No prob at all for me. Gnash my teeth and move on. lol |
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Feistylorax User ID: 57152573 United States 10/09/2014 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So with our hit in the 16's in silver and the dips with the reversal of the dollar trend do you think that the bottom may have been hit? “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” Dr. Seuss, The Lorax ENTP SAHM raising chickens and kids preparing for whatever happens |
Punk-A$$ets (OP) User ID: 30559668 United States 10/09/2014 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm still on the sidelines. I didnt have the cojones to buy back in this morning. What worries me is the stock market appears to be deteriorating led by the small caps (going on for a long time now and getting worse) and if they plunge I think miners could temp fall out of bed. So I want to buy but am just watching for now. |
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Feistylorax User ID: 57152573 United States 10/09/2014 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So with our hit in the 16's in silver and the dips with the reversal of the dollar trend do you think that the bottom may have been hit? Quoting: Feistylorax I dont think so. After a small bounce I still think both gold and silver & miners will roll over to new lows. I hope so I have been increasing other preps and my buying during this dip has slowed down... “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” Dr. Seuss, The Lorax ENTP SAHM raising chickens and kids preparing for whatever happens |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55461938 Canada 10/09/2014 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm still on the sidelines. I didnt have the cojones to buy back in this morning. What worries me is the stock market appears to be deteriorating led by the small caps (going on for a long time now and getting worse) and if they plunge I think miners could temp fall out of bed. So I want to buy but am just watching for now. Down $700. Feeling a little dizzy. Will hold! |
Punk-A$$ets (OP) User ID: 30559668 United States 10/09/2014 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm still on the sidelines. I didnt have the cojones to buy back in this morning. What worries me is the stock market appears to be deteriorating led by the small caps (going on for a long time now and getting worse) and if they plunge I think miners could temp fall out of bed. So I want to buy but am just watching for now. Down $700. Feeling a little dizzy. Will hold! You use stops right? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63571399 Germany 10/09/2014 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone buying here is outright stupid, sorry. You think the big guys will let Gold triple-bottom at 1180? Give me a break. Sunday night Gold dropped so steeply it could have easily broken right through, but I'm sure they didn't want that and hence up we went. For 4 days now. We need more firepower to drop hard and hence new idiot spec longs have to be sucked in first. That's what this bounce is good for. Clearing out oversold technicals, that's all. Just look at how poor gold performed today with the S&P dropping a whopping 40 points. Think we are in a new bull market yet? Guess what, you are gonna get fleeced again soon. I say the bottom will be around $800-1000, below $1000 many will finally throw in the towel (which is stupid, who would seriously believe that gold just keeps dropping to silly levels?) and that's why we will go there. It's really as simple as that. You just have to understand psychology. As long as we haven't had complete annihilation a new bull market will not begin. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55461938 Canada 10/09/2014 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm still on the sidelines. I didnt have the cojones to buy back in this morning. What worries me is the stock market appears to be deteriorating led by the small caps (going on for a long time now and getting worse) and if they plunge I think miners could temp fall out of bed. So I want to buy but am just watching for now. Down $700. Feeling a little dizzy. Will hold! You use stops right? Not at all. As I said I buy and hold for long durations, months to years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63571399 Germany 10/09/2014 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Punk-A$$ets I'm still on the sidelines. I didnt have the cojones to buy back in this morning. What worries me is the stock market appears to be deteriorating led by the small caps (going on for a long time now and getting worse) and if they plunge I think miners could temp fall out of bed. So I want to buy but am just watching for now. Down $700. Feeling a little dizzy. Will hold! You use stops right? Not at all. As I said I buy and hold for long durations, months to years. That's fine then, because gold will probably be at $3500-5000 in 5 years. |
Punk-A$$ets (OP) User ID: 30559668 United States 10/09/2014 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Punk-A$$ets I'm still on the sidelines. I didnt have the cojones to buy back in this morning. What worries me is the stock market appears to be deteriorating led by the small caps (going on for a long time now and getting worse) and if they plunge I think miners could temp fall out of bed. So I want to buy but am just watching for now. Down $700. Feeling a little dizzy. Will hold! You use stops right? Not at all. As I said I buy and hold for long durations, months to years. Ok, yeah your fine. From what I've gleaned miners should go up big time after the final washout. I'll bet money the lows wont last but for a moment and they'll snap back almost immediately. Then it'll be a real bull market anyway. |
Punk-A$$ets (OP) User ID: 30559668 United States 10/09/2014 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty happy with the way miners snapped back today and recouped half the days losses. Also a down day with less than half of yesterdays volume is good me thinks. Will be interesting to see if we can close green tomorrow to end the week. I almost bought some miners in the last hour but didnt. |
Antipodean User ID: 16136387 Australia 10/09/2014 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sweet, I go to sleep just as the us markets open - I learnt my lesson this time, tightened ups tops on my big positions and put in some close trailing stops. Woke up this morning in a pretty good spot. I had a few short positions on for the indices so that did well. So I'm up a tidy profit from the 1185 low... Now to just make sure I don't get to caught up with the bounce! |
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Punk-A$$ets (OP) User ID: 30559668 United States 10/09/2014 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sweet, I go to sleep just as the us markets open - I learnt my lesson this time, tightened ups tops on my big positions and put in some close trailing stops. Woke up this morning in a pretty good spot. Quoting: Antipodean I had a few short positions on for the indices so that did well. So I'm up a tidy profit from the 1185 low... Now to just make sure I don't get to caught up with the bounce! Its good be stopped out with nice profits! You can always jump back in if need be. |
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Punk-A$$ets (OP) User ID: 30559668 United States 10/15/2014 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why stop there? How about $20 or heck even $2? I could see $900 or even slightly lower based on the 1980 high retest but $200? Where would that number come from? Wasn't gold under $300/oz around 2000-2002? (as I remember) Yes, and oil was $10 per barrel in the late 90s. But unless we see oil there again (and other mining costs miraculously collapse to similar levels) we'll never see $300 gold again. Also, there was a lot more easy gold to be mined back then and that stuff is long gone. New high quality gold mines take decades to come on line. I think i just read 17 years on average. |
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