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saved (OP) User ID: 58529656 United States 05/27/2014 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHat are my chances there though? The courts in New Mexico are sickening to deal with, especially if your heterosexual. If i dont comply there will be $300 fines for each offence, thats 1200 dollars! I got three days. Im infuriated over this horseshit as well. I just spent 7 years in a custody battle here in New Mexico, and going back to court over this shit is shall we say not very appealing? BUt thanks for the suggestion. Im a fighter for sure, but man its a loosing battle in this state. My wife is in tears. Any kenneling would cost us thousands. Last Edited by saved on 05/27/2014 09:46 PM Come And Take It! |
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tiger1 User ID: 44278049 United States 05/27/2014 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the day of encroachment has arrived for my wife and i. Ive been working alot on a couple of projects in town, and over the memorial weekend animal protection came out and served me the counties orange notice telling me i have 3 days to comply. I havent even been on GLP much because of my current work load, but i figured id post this and see if anyone could help. Quoting: saved I have 4 bull terriers, i live up in the mountains on two and a half acres of private property in the forest 25 miles from town. My dogs are on 70ft. long cable runs allowing them a 30ft wide span and about 80' length they can travel back and forth. WHen i get home my dogs are inside the house with me 2 at a time. They get alternated every night. And are moved to a different location so as not to get bored being confined to the same location. I have plenty of room. My dogs are friendly and ive been raising pits for more than thirty years now. Ive lived at this location for 7 years with my dogs on these trolly systems. Hardware gets replaced every six months to insure no escape. Animal control is demanding that i remove the trolleys and have the dogs confined in a kennel, with a top on it! Because even the puppy at 7 months will clear a six ft fence. I love my dogs and so do all the nieces and nephews, they actually claim each of the dogs as their own...lol I have three days to comply or i will have to surrender my family members. My dogs are like my family and out here where it would be at least a half hour before law enforcement could get here, the dogs have been great protectors and warning systems as well. This is what i call over reaching government, i live on private property, WTF? I guess i need to downsize to min pins? I called my neighbor, hes a retired federal agent. He watches and feeds my dogs for me when im out on my work trips. He told me its getting crazy, that they are now telling everyone how many chickens and goats and horses your allowed to have. Ive about had all i can take!!!! Please respond with intelligent responses. I can not imagine confining my dogs in separate kennels so they can walk in their piss and shit all day, this is a fucking outrage. My oldest is six years old, and im guessing im just gonna have to surrender them. Three days, with me working isnt near enough time to change what ive been doing for a decade. So now i guess whats better is they just come and pick them up for non compliance with a new, nine month old ordinance? How is this fair to me or my dogs? They will put them down for sure. Fuck obama and all his degenerate minions! This country is going to the fucking shit hole!! You might be grandfathered in. Check with a lawyer. Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!! |
Windsage User ID: 57940152 United States 05/27/2014 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm really sorry you are having to go through this. You have my sympathy for whatever good that does. New Mexico court systems are rigged to the max, so corrupt even the Feds are disgusted and that's saying something. I suggest you contact the Villalobos owner Tia Torres of "Pit Bulls and Parolees" for immediate advice. She is a veteran of just this kind of battle and can give you priceless wisdom on how to handle this situation. Here is the website: [link to www.vrcpitbull.net] My opinion is to comply for now and work out a plan at your leisure. You may want to consider a move to Montana where freedom is taken a little more seriously. New Mexico is a genuine armpit. |
saved (OP) User ID: 58529656 United States 05/27/2014 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Build some chain link or cattle fence kennels quick, then fight it. Dogs are fine in large kennels for short time. Or bring them all in the house and deal with it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56900100 Giving your dogs up over it shouldn't even be an option. My dogs are inside everynight. But i have to be abel to keep them safe when im working and away. I just got the call from the county, and demanded an interview with her supervisor. SHe said it was above her pay grade to make a decision she is going to enforce the law, and has no personal opinion on the matter. SHe tried to tell me that keeping them on a 70 foot cable run was cruel and the dog was much better off inside a kennel. I live out in the forest so my dogs can be free. And now they are telling me to cage them up? Your damn straight im gonna fight it, even if it is futile! Come And Take It! |
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saved (OP) User ID: 58529656 United States 05/27/2014 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm really sorry you are having to go through this. You have my sympathy for whatever good that does. Quoting: Windsage New Mexico court systems are rigged to the max, so corrupt even the Feds are disgusted and that's saying something. I suggest you contact the Villalobos owner Tia Torres of "Pit Bulls and Parolees" for immediate advice. She is a veteran of just this kind of battle and can give you priceless wisdom on how to handle this situation. Here is the website: [link to www.vrcpitbull.net] My opinion is to comply for now and work out a plan at your leisure. You may want to consider a move to Montana where freedom is taken a little more seriously. New Mexico is a genuine armpit. Im about compliance to a point. And i cant thank you enough for the advice you just gave me, i will call her first thing in the morning. My discussion five minutes ago with the code enforcer was fucking laughable! But she actually gave me to the end of next week instead of the 3 day notice of compliance on my fence. God Bless you! Last Edited by saved on 05/27/2014 10:13 PM Come And Take It! |
saved (OP) User ID: 58529656 United States 05/27/2014 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it were me, I'd comply just long enough to buy myself time until I could move. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42719781 These colors dont run. Whats funny is the officer for the county said a woman driving by on her bicycle noticed my male dog max at the end of his cable run, and she was intimidated? Seriously, thats exactly why anyone has a dog as protection of their property. I guess i should buy a pussy cat? WTF! Come And Take It! |
saved (OP) User ID: 58529656 United States 05/27/2014 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the day of encroachment has arrived for my wife and i. Ive been working alot on a couple of projects in town, and over the memorial weekend animal protection came out and served me the counties orange notice telling me i have 3 days to comply. I havent even been on GLP much because of my current work load, but i figured id post this and see if anyone could help. Quoting: saved I have 4 bull terriers, i live up in the mountains on two and a half acres of private property in the forest 25 miles from town. My dogs are on 70ft. long cable runs allowing them a 30ft wide span and about 80' length they can travel back and forth. WHen i get home my dogs are inside the house with me 2 at a time. They get alternated every night. And are moved to a different location so as not to get bored being confined to the same location. I have plenty of room. My dogs are friendly and ive been raising pits for more than thirty years now. Ive lived at this location for 7 years with my dogs on these trolly systems. Hardware gets replaced every six months to insure no escape. Animal control is demanding that i remove the trolleys and have the dogs confined in a kennel, with a top on it! Because even the puppy at 7 months will clear a six ft fence. I love my dogs and so do all the nieces and nephews, they actually claim each of the dogs as their own...lol I have three days to comply or i will have to surrender my family members. My dogs are like my family and out here where it would be at least a half hour before law enforcement could get here, the dogs have been great protectors and warning systems as well. This is what i call over reaching government, i live on private property, WTF? I guess i need to downsize to min pins? I called my neighbor, hes a retired federal agent. He watches and feeds my dogs for me when im out on my work trips. He told me its getting crazy, that they are now telling everyone how many chickens and goats and horses your allowed to have. Ive about had all i can take!!!! Please respond with intelligent responses. I can not imagine confining my dogs in separate kennels so they can walk in their piss and shit all day, this is a fucking outrage. My oldest is six years old, and im guessing im just gonna have to surrender them. Three days, with me working isnt near enough time to change what ive been doing for a decade. So now i guess whats better is they just come and pick them up for non compliance with a new, nine month old ordinance? How is this fair to me or my dogs? They will put them down for sure. Fuck obama and all his degenerate minions! This country is going to the fucking shit hole!! You might be grandfathered in. Check with a lawyer. Im calling him right now! I have one on call believe it or not. Come And Take It! |
tiger1 User ID: 44278049 United States 05/27/2014 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the day of encroachment has arrived for my wife and i. Ive been working alot on a couple of projects in town, and over the memorial weekend animal protection came out and served me the counties orange notice telling me i have 3 days to comply. I havent even been on GLP much because of my current work load, but i figured id post this and see if anyone could help. Quoting: saved I have 4 bull terriers, i live up in the mountains on two and a half acres of private property in the forest 25 miles from town. My dogs are on 70ft. long cable runs allowing them a 30ft wide span and about 80' length they can travel back and forth. WHen i get home my dogs are inside the house with me 2 at a time. They get alternated every night. And are moved to a different location so as not to get bored being confined to the same location. I have plenty of room. My dogs are friendly and ive been raising pits for more than thirty years now. Ive lived at this location for 7 years with my dogs on these trolly systems. Hardware gets replaced every six months to insure no escape. Animal control is demanding that i remove the trolleys and have the dogs confined in a kennel, with a top on it! Because even the puppy at 7 months will clear a six ft fence. I love my dogs and so do all the nieces and nephews, they actually claim each of the dogs as their own...lol I have three days to comply or i will have to surrender my family members. My dogs are like my family and out here where it would be at least a half hour before law enforcement could get here, the dogs have been great protectors and warning systems as well. This is what i call over reaching government, i live on private property, WTF? I guess i need to downsize to min pins? I called my neighbor, hes a retired federal agent. He watches and feeds my dogs for me when im out on my work trips. He told me its getting crazy, that they are now telling everyone how many chickens and goats and horses your allowed to have. Ive about had all i can take!!!! Please respond with intelligent responses. I can not imagine confining my dogs in separate kennels so they can walk in their piss and shit all day, this is a fucking outrage. My oldest is six years old, and im guessing im just gonna have to surrender them. Three days, with me working isnt near enough time to change what ive been doing for a decade. So now i guess whats better is they just come and pick them up for non compliance with a new, nine month old ordinance? How is this fair to me or my dogs? They will put them down for sure. Fuck obama and all his degenerate minions! This country is going to the fucking shit hole!! You might be grandfathered in. Check with a lawyer. Im calling him right now! I have one on call believe it or not. That is great ! Let us know how this turns out ! Prayers sent up for you, friend ! Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!! |
Windsage User ID: 57940152 United States 05/27/2014 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm really sorry you are having to go through this. You have my sympathy for whatever good that does. Quoting: Windsage New Mexico court systems are rigged to the max, so corrupt even the Feds are disgusted and that's saying something. I suggest you contact the Villalobos owner Tia Torres of "Pit Bulls and Parolees" for immediate advice. She is a veteran of just this kind of battle and can give you priceless wisdom on how to handle this situation. Here is the website: [link to www.vrcpitbull.net] My opinion is to comply for now and work out a plan at your leisure. You may want to consider a move to Montana where freedom is taken a little more seriously. New Mexico is a genuine armpit. Im about compliance to a point. And i cant thank you enough for the advice you just gave me, i will call her first thing in the morning. My discussion five minutes ago with the code enforcer was fucking laughable! But she actually gave me to the end of next week instead of the 3 day notice of compliance on my fence. God Bless you! Thank you for your good blessing. May God also richly bless you and protect you and your loved ones, may you be the victor in this unlawful assault on your property rights. |
saved (OP) User ID: 58529656 United States 05/27/2014 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the day of encroachment has arrived for my wife and i. Ive been working alot on a couple of projects in town, and over the memorial weekend animal protection came out and served me the counties orange notice telling me i have 3 days to comply. I havent even been on GLP much because of my current work load, but i figured id post this and see if anyone could help. Quoting: saved I have 4 bull terriers, i live up in the mountains on two and a half acres of private property in the forest 25 miles from town. My dogs are on 70ft. long cable runs allowing them a 30ft wide span and about 80' length they can travel back and forth. WHen i get home my dogs are inside the house with me 2 at a time. They get alternated every night. And are moved to a different location so as not to get bored being confined to the same location. I have plenty of room. My dogs are friendly and ive been raising pits for more than thirty years now. Ive lived at this location for 7 years with my dogs on these trolly systems. Hardware gets replaced every six months to insure no escape. Animal control is demanding that i remove the trolleys and have the dogs confined in a kennel, with a top on it! Because even the puppy at 7 months will clear a six ft fence. I love my dogs and so do all the nieces and nephews, they actually claim each of the dogs as their own...lol I have three days to comply or i will have to surrender my family members. My dogs are like my family and out here where it would be at least a half hour before law enforcement could get here, the dogs have been great protectors and warning systems as well. This is what i call over reaching government, i live on private property, WTF? I guess i need to downsize to min pins? I called my neighbor, hes a retired federal agent. He watches and feeds my dogs for me when im out on my work trips. He told me its getting crazy, that they are now telling everyone how many chickens and goats and horses your allowed to have. Ive about had all i can take!!!! Please respond with intelligent responses. I can not imagine confining my dogs in separate kennels so they can walk in their piss and shit all day, this is a fucking outrage. My oldest is six years old, and im guessing im just gonna have to surrender them. Three days, with me working isnt near enough time to change what ive been doing for a decade. So now i guess whats better is they just come and pick them up for non compliance with a new, nine month old ordinance? How is this fair to me or my dogs? They will put them down for sure. Fuck obama and all his degenerate minions! This country is going to the fucking shit hole!! You might be grandfathered in. Check with a lawyer. Im calling him right now! I have one on call believe it or not. That is great ! Let us know how this turns out ! Prayers sent up for you, friend ! Thanks always Tiger 1! Ive put the calls in, my attorney will return my call in the morning. I left a message with the head official for the county and will be calling him again in the morning. But they have already informed me they dont interpret the law just enforce it. My dogs are healthy and happy, i told them to meet me here and meet my dogs and then tell me putting them in a confined kennel will be better for them. If you want my dog confined in a cage take them with ya! Come And Take It! |
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Weltsmertz User ID: 46677625 United States 05/27/2014 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHat are my chances there though? The courts in New Mexico are sickening to deal with, especially if your heterosexual. If i dont comply there will be $300 fines for each offence, thats 1200 dollars! I got three days. Im infuriated over this horseshit as well. I just spent 7 years in a custody battle here in New Mexico, and going back to court over this shit is shall we say not very appealing? BUt thanks for the suggestion. Im a fighter for sure, but man its a loosing battle in this state. My wife is in tears. Any kenneling would cost us thousands. It is not really about your chances in court, it is about an injunction and a stay to buy you time! A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. Friedrich Nietzsche if I did not feel so sad as I look at them. Sad because they do not know the truth and I do know it. Oh, how hard it is to be the only one who knows the truth! But they won't understand that. No, they won't understand it." --from The Dream of a Ridiculous Man (1877) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2116087 United States 05/27/2014 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the day of encroachment has arrived for my wife and i. Ive been working alot on a couple of projects in town, and over the memorial weekend animal protection came out and served me the counties orange notice telling me i have 3 days to comply. I havent even been on GLP much because of my current work load, but i figured id post this and see if anyone could help. I have 4 bull terriers, i live up in the mountains on two and a half acres of private property in the forest 25 miles from town. My dogs are on 70ft. long cable runs allowing them a 30ft wide span and about 80' length they can travel back and forth. WHen i get home my dogs are inside the house with me 2 at a time. They get alternated every night. And are moved to a different location so as not to get bored being confined to the same location. I have plenty of room. My dogs are friendly and ive been raising pits for more than thirty years now. Ive lived at this location for 7 years with my dogs on these trolly systems. Hardware gets replaced every six months to insure no escape. Animal control is demanding that i remove the trolleys and have the dogs confined in a kennel, with a top on it! Because even the puppy at 7 months will clear a six ft fence. I love my dogs and so do all the nieces and nephews, they actually claim each of the dogs as their own...lol I have three days to comply or i will have to surrender my family members. My dogs are like my family and out here where it would be at least a half hour before law enforcement could get here, the dogs have been great protectors and warning systems as well. This is what i call over reaching government, i live on private property, WTF? I guess i need to downsize to min pins? I called my neighbor, hes a retired federal agent. He watches and feeds my dogs for me when im out on my work trips. He told me its getting crazy, that they are now telling everyone how many chickens and goats and horses your allowed to have. Ive about had all i can take!!!! Please respond with intelligent responses. I can not imagine confining my dogs in separate kennels so they can walk in their piss and shit all day, this is a fucking outrage. My oldest is six years old, and im guessing im just gonna have to surrender them. Three days, with me working isnt near enough time to change what ive been doing for a decade. So now i guess whats better is they just come and pick them up for non compliance with a new, nine month old ordinance? How is this fair to me or my dogs? They will put them down for sure. Fuck obama and all his degenerate minions! This country is going to the fucking shit DO NOT surrender them. Seriously. They'd rather be in a kennel than taken by some fucking assholes that will then put them down. They'll wonder where you are and be terrified and heart broken. Take a couple days off, put up the kennels then take this stupid shit to court but NEVER surrender your dogs. They're your children. |
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saved (OP) User ID: 58529656 United States 05/27/2014 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | electric fence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58117603 everyone around here has those, they seem to really work. Probably find a used set up for cheap. Wont work for pits. It's just like the lady telling me i can make one kenenl and throw them all in together? Seriously? At that point you shouldnt be giving advice on pit bulls, your clueless. Come And Take It! |
telling it straight User ID: 30486434 United States 05/27/2014 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, how'd they even find out about your dogs? DON'T surrender them. Even if you have to do those runs, keep 'em. Last Edited by telling it straight on 05/27/2014 10:49 PM |
concrete blonde User ID: 54226913 United States 05/27/2014 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't surrender your dogs. you will prevail.....bc you are doing the right thing, you are taking care of G-d's creations and man-made bullshit will not prevail of G-dly justice. don't give up your dogs, fight and YOU WILL MOST DEFINITELY PREVAIL. you are fighting not just for you, but all people who have pets, so this is a very serious matter. if you need a legal defense fund set up, please do so....as i think there would be lots of people who would donate......believe it or not even liberal animal rights people would donate (i'm assuming you are conservative).....and it might raise awareness of issues like this and how dangerous they are. if you are taking good care of your dogs and it sounds like you are, then you are doing the right thing and taking care of animals is certainly a mitzvah in G-d's eyes and so, you shall prevail. i had a somewhat situation come up and i prevailed in court. don't let them fuck with you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42719781 United States 05/27/2014 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it were me, I'd comply just long enough to buy myself time until I could move. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42719781 These colors dont run. Whats funny is the officer for the county said a woman driving by on her bicycle noticed my male dog max at the end of his cable run, and she was intimidated? Seriously, thats exactly why anyone has a dog as protection of their property. I guess i should buy a pussy cat? WTF! Can't say I blame you, though myself, I wouldn't want to live in a place where the local govt and the people were like that. |
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saved (OP) User ID: 58529656 United States 05/27/2014 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not fair. Quoting: Coldreboot It's bullshit and shouldn't be. That being said, if you don't want to lose you're furkids I suggest you comply. Just jump through their hoops. Swallow your pride. I'm sorry. I really am, but it's the only thing you can do. Pretty much. Im not jumping through any fucking hoops, ive been handling these dogs for more than thirty years, im an expert on pits, and have friends across the country, where ive bought them from. My last dog Max was purchased for 2k. Come And Take It! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58117603 United States 05/27/2014 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | electric fence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58117603 everyone around here has those, they seem to really work. Probably find a used set up for cheap. Wont work for pits. It's just like the lady telling me i can make one kenenl and throw them all in together? Seriously? At that point you shouldnt be giving advice on pit bulls, your clueless. well shit, if they are so aggressive you can't put them in one kennel, wtf are you doing with them? they are obviously a threat to others if they will kill eachother. |
saved (OP) User ID: 58529656 United States 05/27/2014 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not fair. Quoting: Coldreboot It's bullshit and shouldn't be. That being said, if you don't want to lose you're furkids I suggest you comply. Just jump through their hoops. Swallow your pride. I'm sorry. I really am, but it's the only thing you can do. Pretty much. Oh i will fight it to the end. IN the end their blood will be on their hands not mine. Come And Take It! |
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