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Detroit water doom: Mass incarcerations for protesters following shutoffs!

 
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As I said before, We live near Detroit and this news got me scared enough to take out a loan to pay our bills up to date. So maybe it worked on us....we heard the message! Hopefully we can buckle down and pay the loan off soon. I wish eveyone had this option. We all have to pay our way if we can.
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Of course , not the issue at hand ?

The issue at hand is people being rounded up in mass for their first amendment rights ? Do you understand?
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I am paying close attention and I care. I didnt mean to sound like I didnt. If there is something you think I should do, please ask! Otherwise, I will keep my ears open and try to let my friends and relatives know about it.
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I know that , I was just trying to keep focus on the main issue here peace
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I emailed my contact at Fox2, emailed the author of the article, asked her if she would call in tonight, emailed my cohost on Rense tonight (because she already sent me a topic list earlier) so we can accomodate this story.

How many local GLPers might be able to go to this thing tomorrow? Anybody?

MS. HICKS WILL BE SPEAKING AT AN ACTIVISTS’ RE-UNION POT-LUCK PICNIC SATURDAY, MAY 31, 1-7 PM OUTSIDE THE HOME OF CALL ‘EM OUT FOUNDER AGNES HITCHCOCK, ON E. PHILADELPHIA BETWEEN JOHN R AND BRUSH; CALL 874-2792 FOR MORE INFO - See more at: [link to voiceofdetroit.net]
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I will be there , " what's rense tonight"?

Are you a journalist ?
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This could get really ugly.

Water cut-offs in Detroit a violation of human rights
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Maude Barlow May 27, 2014

From the article...But the people of Detroit face another sinister enemy. Every day, thousands of them, in a city that is situated right by a body of water carrying one fifth of the world’s water supply, are having their ‎water ruthlessly cut off by men working for the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department. Most of the residents are African American and two thirds of the cut offs involve children, which means that in some cases, child welfare authorities are moving in to remove children from their homes as it is a requirement that there be working utilities in all homes housing children.

People are given no warning and no time to fill buckets, sinks and tubs. Sick people are left without running water and running toilets. People recovering from surgery cannot wash and change bandages. Children cannot bathe and parents cannot cook. Is this a small number of victims? No. The water department has decreed that it will turn the water off to all 120,000 residences that owe ‎it money by the end of the summer although it has made no such threat to the many corporations and institutions that are in arrears on their bills as well. How did it come to this?

Detroit is a victim of decades of market driven neoliberal policy that put business and profit ahead of public good. Social security programs have been slashed and their delivery privatized. Investment in essential infrastructure has been slashed. Every winter, hundreds of aging pipes spew water from leaks and the water has not been turned off in thousands of abandoned houses and boarded up businesses where frozen pipes also lose huge amounts of water.

With globalization and the hollowing out of the once mighty auto industry, wealth and businesses fled to he suburbs, draining ‎the city of its tax base and the water department of its revenues. (There are one million fewer people living in Detroit than there were in the 1950s.)

The burden of paying for the water and sewer services landed squarely on those who stayed, mostly poor African Americans. Rates rose 119 per cent in a decade in a city with record high unemployment and a 40 per cent poverty rate...

Second article on this page:
[link to voiceofdetroit.net]
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gotbop



Pay your bills dumb dumb. All the protesters had manicures and pedicures though. New extensions and Obama phones. But can't pay a water bill.
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I emailed my contact at Fox2, emailed the author of the article, asked her if she would call in tonight, emailed my cohost on Rense tonight (because she already sent me a topic list earlier) so we can accomodate this story.

How many local GLPers might be able to go to this thing tomorrow? Anybody?

MS. HICKS WILL BE SPEAKING AT AN ACTIVISTS’ RE-UNION POT-LUCK PICNIC SATURDAY, MAY 31, 1-7 PM OUTSIDE THE HOME OF CALL ‘EM OUT FOUNDER AGNES HITCHCOCK, ON E. PHILADELPHIA BETWEEN JOHN R AND BRUSH; CALL 874-2792 FOR MORE INFO - See more at: [link to voiceofdetroit.net]
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I'll ask my husband as soon as he gets home...hes on route right now. Thanks for the invite. I hope you get a lot of responce.hf
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Put them in A Debtors Prison. A prison for people who are unable to pay debt.
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I am rooting for the police. Throw all the non-payers in jail.
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I emailed my contact at Fox2, emailed the author of the article, asked her if she would call in tonight, emailed my cohost on Rense tonight (because she already sent me a topic list earlier) so we can accomodate this story.

How many local GLPers might be able to go to this thing tomorrow? Anybody?

MS. HICKS WILL BE SPEAKING AT AN ACTIVISTS’ RE-UNION POT-LUCK PICNIC SATURDAY, MAY 31, 1-7 PM OUTSIDE THE HOME OF CALL ‘EM OUT FOUNDER AGNES HITCHCOCK, ON E. PHILADELPHIA BETWEEN JOHN R AND BRUSH; CALL 874-2792 FOR MORE INFO - See more at: [link to voiceofdetroit.net]
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I will be there , " what's rense tonight"?

Are you a journalist ?
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Yes I host on Rense and Freedomizer, here is the link for tonights show:

[link to wideawakenews.com]
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I emailed my contact at Fox2, emailed the author of the article, asked her if she would call in tonight, emailed my cohost on Rense tonight (because she already sent me a topic list earlier) so we can accomodate this story.

How many local GLPers might be able to go to this thing tomorrow? Anybody?

MS. HICKS WILL BE SPEAKING AT AN ACTIVISTS’ RE-UNION POT-LUCK PICNIC SATURDAY, MAY 31, 1-7 PM OUTSIDE THE HOME OF CALL ‘EM OUT FOUNDER AGNES HITCHCOCK, ON E. PHILADELPHIA BETWEEN JOHN R AND BRUSH; CALL 874-2792 FOR MORE INFO - See more at: [link to voiceofdetroit.net]
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I will be there , " what's rense tonight"?

Are you a journalist ?
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Yes I host on Rense and Freedomizer, here is the link for tonights show:

[link to wideawakenews.com]
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Very cool , I'll check it out hf
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The City of Detroit must be taken under control due to its strategic location with Canada and the largest freshwater surface sources on the planet. It an area of great interest and must be rebuilt for the new and ordered future of the world.

Gentrification is complete, the next stages must be accelerated greatly.
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What next stages?
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The systematic removal of undesirables in prescribed order:

Firstly by self-determination through discomfort created by the state.

Secondly, by force through the apparatus of the state.

Thirdly, by any means necessary.
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Where do you propose they go? They had better not come to the west side. Things are quite nice over here. We don't need any of that crap! Muskegon is the last bucket to clean up, but they are working on it. Right now, nothing can be bought or sold within Muskegon Heights, the ghetto of that town. Kent and Ottawa counties' economic outlook is very good. Things are humming along. Most take pride in there neighborhood and with a Christian work ethic and the scenic shoreline and all that goes with that, it is a very desirable place to live and raise a family.
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Nothing was ever mentioned in regards to a mass migration. Simply a permanent systematic removal through economic warfare, lawmaking, and any means necessary.
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I am rooting for the police. Throw all the non-payers in jail.
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norespect

We dealt with this 3 or 4 pages back.

The issues are:

1) Minimal to no warning water is being shut off for as little as 60 day delinquency

2) Proof of shutoff not provided, in the case mentioned arrested for asking questions

3) Protesters are now prisoners

4) Prisoners are being held at an old jail that is supposed to be CLOSED per MDOT

5) Multiple BS charges added at time of arraignment

6) CPS sweeps in next to take children from "homes w/o water"

Full article here:
[link to voiceofdetroit.net]
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I am rooting for the police. Throw all the non-payers in jail.
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You know that costs a lot more money than hiring one person to help people figure out how to pay the bill! Imprisonment is very expensive and so is taking people away from thier jobs...not to mention the horrific stuff it does to families and the dominoe effect of that. What a nightmare! .....sorry, I just realized you probably arent seeing this as a real threat to yourself and your family...yet.
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I am rooting for the police. Throw all the non-payers in jail.
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norespect

We dealt with this 3 or 4 pages back.

The issues are:

1) Minimal to no warning water is being shut off for as little as 60 day delinquency

2) Proof of shutoff not provided, in the case mentioned arrested for asking questions

3) Protesters are now prisoners

4) Prisoners are being held at an old jail that is supposed to be CLOSED per MDOT

5) Multiple BS charges added at time of arraignment

6) CPS sweeps in next to take children from "homes w/o water"

Full article here:
[link to voiceofdetroit.net]
 Quoting: RadChick


^^^^^^^^^ these are the issues at hand , not race, not economic status but only peoples constitutional rights being crushed

Thanks to the patriot act , Michigan is a constitution free zone so I guess Government is going to have a party

I still have my constitution and I don't care what the patriot act says
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What next stages?
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The systematic removal of undesirables in prescribed order:

Firstly by self-determination through discomfort created by the state.

Secondly, by force through the apparatus of the state.

Thirdly, by any means necessary.
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Where do you propose they go? They had better not come to the west side. Things are quite nice over here. We don't need any of that crap! Muskegon is the last bucket to clean up, but they are working on it. Right now, nothing can be bought or sold within Muskegon Heights, the ghetto of that town. Kent and Ottawa counties' economic outlook is very good. Things are humming along. Most take pride in there neighborhood and with a Christian work ethic and the scenic shoreline and all that goes with that, it is a very desirable place to live and raise a family.
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Nothing was ever mentioned in regards to a mass migration. Simply a permanent systematic removal through economic warfare, lawmaking, and any means necessary.
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Today it's about WATER. Tomorrow, who knows. Land grabs and water grabs are going to be all the rage, and have been for awhile. All part of Agenda 21.

There are some people on this thread that have a psuedo sense of security. No one is safe. If you live in the US, you are fair game. They are going after the easy ones first.



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Also forgot to mention , a member could pin this if they felt so inclined
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This should have been pinned. I will pin it.
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Thank you for the pin.

Sorry I have been out most of the day, will try to respond to posts made since last night.
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It is a good thread.

When you get the time, I want your opinion on another thread I have been on.

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The systematic removal of undesirables in prescribed order:

Firstly by self-determination through discomfort created by the state.

Secondly, by force through the apparatus of the state.

Thirdly, by any means necessary.
 Quoting: 535 52787840


Where do you propose they go? They had better not come to the west side. Things are quite nice over here. We don't need any of that crap! Muskegon is the last bucket to clean up, but they are working on it. Right now, nothing can be bought or sold within Muskegon Heights, the ghetto of that town. Kent and Ottawa counties' economic outlook is very good. Things are humming along. Most take pride in there neighborhood and with a Christian work ethic and the scenic shoreline and all that goes with that, it is a very desirable place to live and raise a family.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1464564


Nothing was ever mentioned in regards to a mass migration. Simply a permanent systematic removal through economic warfare, lawmaking, and any means necessary.
 Quoting: 535 52787840


Today it's about WATER. Tomorrow, who knows. Land grabs and water grabs are going to be all the rage, and have been for awhile. All part of Agenda 21.

There are some people on this thread that have a psuedo sense of security. No one is safe. If you live in the US, you are fair game. They are going after the easy ones first.


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Agenda 21 is a reality for all of us. But Detroit is being destroyed.
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@ Georgia Dog ? Your posts have nothing to do with this thread !

We all know unions Destroyed Detroit , please stay on thread Topic

If you return here and run your mouth again it's going to get ugly
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Listen here, douche. I responded to what many people posted. So I guess I was on topic.

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How long should a bill be delinquent before the water is shut off?

60 days sounds fair to me.
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But why are they protesting?
How many shut off notices does it take to be considered a warning?
Is the population of Detroit so used to getting what they want for free that when the free stuff stops, they take to the streets?
I don't normally land on the side of the STATE but, in this case, I don't see a problem sweeping the streets of garbage and late water bills that have not been paid.
Sad to think this is a city in the USA.
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You have never been 60 days late on a bill? Lucky you.
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This. The majority are not so lucky.
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The systematic removal of undesirables in prescribed order:

Firstly by self-determination through discomfort created by the state.

Secondly, by force through the apparatus of the state.

Thirdly, by any means necessary.
 Quoting: 535 52787840


Where do you propose they go? They had better not come to the west side. Things are quite nice over here. We don't need any of that crap! Muskegon is the last bucket to clean up, but they are working on it. Right now, nothing can be bought or sold within Muskegon Heights, the ghetto of that town. Kent and Ottawa counties' economic outlook is very good. Things are humming along. Most take pride in there neighborhood and with a Christian work ethic and the scenic shoreline and all that goes with that, it is a very desirable place to live and raise a family.
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Nothing was ever mentioned in regards to a mass migration. Simply a permanent systematic removal through economic warfare, lawmaking, and any means necessary.
 Quoting: 535 52787840


Today it's about WATER. Tomorrow, who knows. Land grabs and water grabs are going to be all the rage, and have been for awhile. All part of Agenda 21.

There are some people on this thread that have a psuedo sense of security. No one is safe. If you live in the US, you are fair game. They are going after the easy ones first.


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Can't say I disagree. They are using the EPA here to limit land purchases for residential or agricultural use. Land that is perfectly fine for that use. I am not a realtor but talk to many and I hear the codes and bylaws are growing so fast, one can not keep up. Most of it revolves around Agenda 21 (so I am told) which I am not the least bit familiar. A friend of mine is a member of the Campaign for Liberty and she has tried to get me to join and attend meetings, which hit on this topic. I'm just too busy trying to keep my own head above water.
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@ Georgia Dog ? Your posts have nothing to do with this thread !

We all know unions Destroyed Detroit , please stay on thread Topic

If you return here and run your mouth again it's going to get ugly
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Listen here, douche. I responded to what many people posted. So I guess I was on topic.

iamwith
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With this happening to hundreds of people, I wonder why MSM hasn't picked it up. That's kind of weird. I mean if it was just 1-2 people here and there I can see they would maybe get lost in the system. But hundreds??
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^ And what do you suppose "they" intend to do with the land?

What is a good source to read up on Agenda 21?
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With this happening to hundreds of people, I wonder why MSM hasn't picked it up. That's kind of weird. I mean if it was just 1-2 people here and there I can see they would maybe get lost in the system. But hundreds??
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Not shocking at all , once going on in Detroit is being completely covered up , you have to see it to believe it
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I am a local and I am perfectly fine with this.

I would bet that any account from these "victims" will be very over-exaggerated.

the cleanup of Detroit is not going to be pretty but it needs to be done.
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The way any thing is done, is not siding with a mass murderer legion elite, that has millions of blood and torture dripping off their soon to be very sorry spirits, because life is short and they got their F's.

You don't side with them no matter what.

If anything stands in the way of improving people's lives, you get rid of it.

ie. Banks, scarsity systems, all those weird unconstitutional laws that are null and void at conception that everyone just seeems to snap to attention and salute, nah. Grow some and don't follow bad orders.

You never put an ISM, a belief system in front of the well being of people.

Can't get off this rock if you do.

The people in Detroit need a just system and equality and dreams, and their youths developing talents and creativity.

And happiness.

And on earth we have more than enough means and goods to supply stuff.

Its the will, the ISMS that are preventing.

Those who go to the front of the line, will be sent to the back.

And wisdom looks up from the bottom of the well.
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@ Georgia Dog ? Your posts have nothing to do with this thread !

We all know unions Destroyed Detroit , please stay on thread Topic

If you return here and run your mouth again it's going to get ugly
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Listen here, douche. I responded to what many people posted. So I guess I was on topic.

iamwith
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Let the legend in your own mind live on burnit
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^ And what do you suppose "they" intend to do with the land?

What is a good source to read up on Agenda 21?
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Just a search engine, and you will be amazed at what you find.
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Looks like the government will have to substidize water from now on
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The issues are:

1) Minimal to no warning water is being shut off for as little as 60 day delinquency

2) Proof of shutoff not provided, in the case mentioned arrested for asking questions
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1) Do delinquent payers deserve a marching band towing a banner that states, "PAY YO BILL, OR YOU'LL GET CUT OFF!" to come down their street?! If someone has not paid the bill in 60 or more days, THEY should know they are delinquent. It is then incumbent upon them to talk with the water company and try to work out a payment plan or alternative (charity) to pay the past due amount. And if they are so irresponsible that they don't, too bad.

2) The proof of shutoff is the company's lock out tag on the line. Is it possible a notice was left? Is it possible this woman got indignant with the worker? Is it possible that in a fit, she grabbed the bucket off the back of the truck? I don't know either way. And I guess no one else knows for sure. Unless it was videotaped. Do you know if it was recorded for proof?
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I'm smart I watch TV 1rof1

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