Is it unrealistic to believe the earth will be restored to paradise conditions? Some feel that way, what about you?

I think it would be unrealistic to believe God won't intercept man's final act of self ruler ship.


"for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." Mt24;21

Well, here is the solution to that problem:


'And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.'- Psalms 37:10,11

As Jehovah Witnesses both of you must have believed blindly to JW's doctrine of restoration.

If people can be honest to themselves without any indoctrination influence, most will admit they don;t know what the future may hold. Believing blindly sometime give religion believers a mental crutch, with most likely is a false sense of security. Most people need that less they become insane. The very minority people who take the gnostic path, the seeking of knowledge instead of just stopping at blind faith, are differently wired. They may believe a certain statement, but as seeker of truth, they don't put unconfirmed and unproven statement into conclusive truth like the typical JWs or Christians. Unproven believe is a hypothesis that must later on be proven true or false, not just be believed blindly.

People tend to place the Creator in a box bounded by their own limited imaginations and experience, to view him as if He is somehow bound by human limitations. He is not bound, as some would assume, by any imaginable constraints, no He has the ability to fold up what we all reality like an old, used garment, and throw it away, to tear open the very fabric of reality itself.

The Bible says the earth will be restored. That is not a JW belief. That is a Bible one. It also says the meek will inherit the earth. JW's are right about what the Bible teaches about our earth.

The "restoration" is occurring as we speak..... Why do you think their is such a push by the enviro-nuts to reverse what is in taking place.....

Only God can do a true restoration and He will remove the ones who keep hurting this earth. Humans keep messing it up.

"The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small-- and for destroying those who destroy the earth." Revelation 11:18

In order to do a true restoration, God is going to have to remove the wicked from this planet. That is why He says the meek will inherit this earth. They are the ones who will truly take care of it.

If you believe in the Bible, it states the Earth was "cleansed" the first time with water. The second cleansing will be by fire to destroy evil and purify the Earth. Then the new Jerusalem will descend from the heavens and settle on Earth. At that point the Earth will be restored to "paradise" condition and all that have remained true to the word of God will "be with" Jesus in the new paradise. This new Jerusalem is the "mansion" Jesus spoke of going to prepare for us which has "many rooms".
One of the great deceptions Satan has brought upon the Earth (beside having us accept Sunday as the day of worship instead of the Sabbath as clearly stated in the Commandments) is we immediately go to Heaven or Hell upon death. The Bible clearly states "the dead know nothing" and sleep, awaiting Jesus' voice (upon his second coming) to rise from the grave and join him in the air. Those believers who are left alive will then join the dead in receiving their immortal form.
If everyone is already in Heaven with Jesus or Hell why are we told we would rise from the grave? Will everyone have a twin?
Of course, if you do not believe in the Bible...your guess is as good as mine if paradise will be seen again.

Op, the earth had no tilt,before the flood and will return to a zero axis again at the time of the great earthquake, so yes, you're right.

The sky will roll up like a scroll........

It will...Once the human stain is removed. A few thousand years and dear old earth will be teeming with new life.
Humans are the only problem on this planet...

But they won't be for long. Jesus is coming to destroy the wicked and to deliver the earth to the meek.

That is right, He is not limited by humans, that is why he will have his original purpose fulfilled, as this scripture tells us:


"For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the [true] God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else."- Isaiah 45:18

No it's completely believable , God is ALLMIGHTY .. That means there's not anything that he wants to do that he can't do . He never breaks his promises ! He is high above anything we can imagine. the new earth and heaven will be so great !! We can't even fully imagine the things he's prepared for those who love him

Come Quickly LORD JESUS !

Interesting you mention God never breaks his promises, I like that....I like also how the Apostle Paul told us God cannot lie:



"Paul, a slave of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ according to the faith of God’s chosen ones and the accurate knowledge of the truth which accords with godly devotion 2 upon the basis of a hope of the everlasting life which God, who cannot lie, promised before times long lasting'- Titus 1;1,2

How is THIS as a back up for your thought, (yes, humans are the only flaw on this earth)



"And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace."- Psalms 37:10,11

there will be a new heaven
and a new earth
a paradise
for those who receive Christ

Jesus came to die for that problem
and He isn't through with us

No, that's not "restoration" - that's a political attempt to gain control.

"2 And he went on to say: “Jesus, remember me when you get into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him: “Truly I tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise.”- Luke 23:42, 43

Your right, human government will never solve the earth's problems, even those who may have noble intent



"Do not put YOUR trust in nobles,
Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.
 4 His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground;
In that day his thoughts do perish.
 5 Happy is the one who has the God of Jacob for his help,
Whose hope is in Jehovah his God,
 6 The Maker of heaven and earth,"- Psalms 146:3-6

Reality.....no man and 5 million or so years and everything will be more than fine IMHO

Once the majority of pesky humans are out of the picture (including Democrats AND Republicans) yeah it would. We're long overdue for a planet reset. History shows unforeseen and repeated events (comet? rapid climate change?) that take out the majority of earths inhabitants. Would be hellish for a while but in time, once again, paradise.....

Read Velikovsky's books, the evidence is all there.

Once the cancerous tumours have been removed, the planet will heal itself.

The 'meek' one's are the animals. The one's we 'divine' creatures have made life miserable for...

Yes, but probably not any time soon though...earth changes are just starting. I think as the earth's weather gets more severe (grand solar minimum), as the resources become harder to get..people will make choices...either kill each other off or unite. I have hope we will unite and when that happens we will turn things around fast and paradise will be restored. :)

Positive attitude to have, .....What makes it a sure thing, is that, in Revelation 11:18...it says "God will bring to ruin those ruining the earth"


And then, during the thousand year reign of Christ, the earth will be brought back to paradise conditions

Biblical history shows too, that there were previous restorations for God's people which had an initial fulfillment in Bible times with a greater fulfillment to come:


"For Jehovah will certainly comfort Zion. He will for certain comfort all her devastated places, and he will make her wilderness like Eden and her desert plain like the garden of Jehovah. Exultation and rejoicing themselves will be found in her, thanksgiving and the voice of melody'- Isaiah 51:3

Last Edited by CelestialMaiden on 06/06/2014 03:00 PM

And we thought it was bad when this song was written in the early 70"s

Now THAT is unrealistic