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Are You a Nationalist?

 
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Are You a Nationalist?
I agree with about 90% of this.


You Might Be A Nationalist
By Edgar J. Steele
7-3-6

Increasingly, I hear talk of nationalism, whatever that might be. At the same time, I see confusion in people who have thought of themselves being allied with one political or ideological outlook or another:

Republicans disgusted with the big-government and foreign-interventionist mentality of the Republican Party.

Democrats fed up with affirmative action, illegal immigration and out-of-control social-support systems like welfare.

Libertarians who supported free trade now unemployed and unemployable.

Christians who see all manner of foreigners killed, allegedly to hasten the return of Jesus Christ.

Ordinary Americans astounded by the firing of citizens because they do not speak Spanish, while illegal aliens are given jobs that American not only want to do, but are not allowed to do - witness the plight of fire fighters throughout Western America this summer.

You know who you are.

Democrats get confused at seeing those considered to be right wingers (like myself) railing the loudest against the criminal regime astride America and, particularly, that mad little dictator now occupying the White House.

Republicans confused by supposed left wingers who cry out for more war and the immediate invasion of Iran - for no apparent reason.

People told that the economy is humming and there is no inflation, yet who find it more difficult to make ends meet, month after month.

Sound familiar?

It is times like these that breed political change, particularly change that cuts across ideologies and along previously unmentionable lines, such as race. Nationalism always finds greater favor during turmoil, though few seem able to define it. In last century's Depression era terms, it often went by the name of populism and would have swept Huey Long into the White House, had he not been assassinated by the usual suspects. Let's take a few minutes and see just what nationalism might entail.

If you are opposed to the flood of illegal aliens across American borders, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe racial quotas, preferences and affirmative action simply are unfair, you might be a nationalist.

If you dislike the impending removal of North American borders, so that Canada, America and Mexico become a single country, you might be a nationalist.

If you oppose the so-called New World Order, whereby a self-selected and secret elite call the shots, you might be a nationalist.

If you are confounded that globalists, neither elected nor even citizens, seem to direct American domestic and foreign policy through officials who increasingly ignore the obvious common will, you might be a nationalist.

If you are outraged that American boys and girls are sent to die in Middle-Eastern hellholes so that oil company profits and Israeli hegemony are protected, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe in the rule of law, whereby none are above the law, you might be a nationalist.

If you think that a country's own government should issue and control its own money, not a private consortium of international bankers, you might be a nationalist.

If you think it is wrong that American corporations send their factories and your job overseas, you might be a nationalist.

If you think a government should be selected by its own citizens in fair and free elections, you might be a nationalist.

If you think that a government should be granted only limited powers by its own citizens, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe that rights are inherent to being alive and not privileges to be dispensed by government, you might be a nationalist.

If you think it wrong for one country to overthrow the lawfully-elected governments of other countries and replace them with dictatorships, you might be a nationalist.

If you think it is okay to root for your favorite sports team and against others, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe in merit-based pay and advancement, you might be a nationalist.

If you think it is okay for your family to exclude the forced quartering of others in your home, you might be a nationalist.

If you think it is okay for any group of people with a common heritage or identity to live together voluntarily and exclude others, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe there is room in America for groups of people with a common heritage or identity to live together and exclude others, so long as there remains a place for all current citizens, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe that it is okay for European nations to break apart into separate countries, each with its own ethnic background, as did the former Soviet Union, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe that what other countries do is none of America's business, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe there is room for all races and peoples on the face of the Earth, you might be a nationalist.

If you think it wrong that one group, simply because it is larger than another group, is entitled to take anything it wants from the smaller group, you might be a nationalist.

If you disagree that might makes right, you might be a nationalist.

If you refuse to believe that oil in the Middle East somehow belongs to the West, you might be a nationalist.

If you consider what Israel does every day to Palestinians to be wrong, even war crimes, you might be a nationalist.

If you consider what America does every day to Iraqis and Afghanis to be wrong, even war crimes, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe in the separation of those with violent tendencies from the rest of society, as with prisons, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe that some races may be much more prone to violent behavior than other races and should, therefore, be separated for that reason alone, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe that racial differences are more than skin deep, yet do not make one race superior to another, you might be a nationalist.

If you think it is wrong to force everybody to think exactly the same way, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe in equal opportunity for all citizens of America, versus equal outcome, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe there is something dreadfully wrong with America's welfare system, you might be a nationalist.

If you believe there is room in America for different religious beliefs, you might be a nationalist.

If you refuse to be held accountable for the alleged shortcomings of your ancestors, you might be a nationalist.

If you are not ashamed of being White (or any color, for that matter), you might be a nationalist.

If you believe that a people whose nation has been subverted by a foreign cabal are entitled to take up arms against that foreign cabal and remove it from power, you might be a nationalist.

My name is Edgar J. Steele. Thanks for listening. Please visit my web site, www.ConspiracyPenPal.com, for other messages just like this one.

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Nope, Globalist.
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If you refuse to believe that oil in the Middle East somehow belongs to the West, you might be a nationalist.

Those middle eastern people don't need it. The West does, so that kind makes it ours.
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07/04/2006 11:25 AM
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Nope, Globalist.
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well, I'll see you on the battlefield then.
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If you refuse to believe that oil in the Middle East somehow belongs to the West, you might be a nationalist.

Those middle eastern people don't need it. The West does, so that kind makes it ours.
 Quoting: W. W. Raupp



What kind of logic is that? The oil does not belong to the West because if it did, it would be actually in Western countries. Technically, it shouldn't belong to anyone but for the moment it could be considered the property of whoever is lucky enough to be standing over it.
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IF YOU WAER YOUR WALLET ON A CHAIN.... UHHH YOU MIGHT B A RED NECK!1!!!oneleventy!!!!
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07/04/2006 11:32 AM
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Nope, Globalist.
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Globalism is inevitable, really. It's the only way that we can progress as a species, for without the combined effort of every nation on Earth, we won't be able to leave this rock. If we stay as separate, warring tribes, we'll be doomed to a future of overpopulation and scarce resources.
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Nope, Globalist.


Globalism is inevitable, really. It's the only way that we can progress as a species, for without the combined effort of every nation on Earth, we won't be able to leave this rock. If we stay as separate, warring tribes, we'll be doomed to a future of overpopulation and scarce resources.
 Quoting: Manticore

I think human nature will always prevent that.
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07/04/2006 11:49 AM
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Regardless of your political affiliation, I believe we should vote out all incumbents in the next elections.
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Regardless of your political affiliation, I believe we should vote out all incumbents in the next elections.
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I agree with that statement. However, we could end up with an even worse U.S. adminstration...
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07/04/2006 12:13 PM
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Regardless of your political affiliation, I believe we should vote out all incumbents in the next elections.


I agree with that statement. However, we could end up with an even worse U.S. adminstration...
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nothing ventured, nothing gained
at least we could send a very strong message to those who would conspire against us
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Nope, Globalist.

well, I'll see you on the battlefield then.
 Quoting: Dred


Nope..
Only puppets run around on the battlefield.

NWO:
First it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed;
and Third, it is accepted as self-evident

Why dont we you just skip the first 2 steps and join the rest of us.



Considering the topic i also have 2 say this:
Patriotism is more dangeres then religion !
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"Why dont we you just skip the first 2 steps and join the rest of us."

Nah, sheep smell funky.
Besides, step 2 sounds so much more interesting.
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Besides, step 2 sounds so much more interesting.
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Good luck ! You will be what is called 'collateral damage'.

Thanks in advance for applying ! applause
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Besides, step 2 sounds so much more interesting.


Good luck ! You will be what is called 'collateral damage'.

Thanks in advance for applying ! applause
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74191

you know the saying, about dying on my feet, rather than live on my knees.

Got kneepads?
and lip balm?
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you know the saying, about dying on my feet, rather than live on my knees.

Got kneepads?
and lip balm?
 Quoting: Dred



You r already r on your knees but your not realizing it.
You already r a puppet of the system like all of us. You pay taxes? Do you believe? Did you vote? Were you in millitairy? Do you smoke? Do you watch fox? Do you spend much time on GLP talking the talk but aint walking the walk?

Seriously... Your not realizing it, but the complition of the NWO is needed. The faster the better imo.

The human race dont need ppol like you, defending there piece of truth while most ppol see it for what it really is.
Truthiness!!!
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you know the saying, about dying on my feet, rather than live on my knees.

Got kneepads?
and lip balm?



You r already r on your knees but your not realizing it.
You already r a puppet of the system like all of us. You pay taxes? Do you believe? Did you vote? Were you in millitairy? Do you smoke? Do you watch fox? Do you spend much time on GLP talking the talk but aint walking the walk?

Seriously... Your not realizing it, but the complition of the NWO is needed. The faster the better imo.

The human race dont need ppol like you, defending there piece of truth while most ppol see it for what it really is.
Truthiness!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74191

Apparently, it's difficult to type in English, whilst chugging globalist cock.
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>>>If you refuse to believe that oil in the Middle East somehow belongs to the West, you might be a nationalist.

Those middle eastern people don't need it. The West does, so that kind makes it ours.
Quoting: W. W. Raupp<<<<<

TOTAL FUCKING MORON!!!

Hey, I need a car. So yours kinda belongs to me since I need it more than you. You must have a spare, so you won't miss it.

another do

America has lots of trees. By your logic, Midlle Easterners have a right to our trees since they don't have any wand we have a surplus.

You're just the typical American Bushtard asshat aren't you?


>>>What kind of logic is that?<<<

The complete LACK, thereof.

>>>The oil does not belong to the West because if it did, it would be actually in Western countries. Technically, it shouldn't belong to anyone but for the moment it could be considered the property of whoever is lucky enough to be standing over it.<<<


It belongs to the owners. Period. Like your house is YOURS. Not yours and the homeless people in your town.

Where do you fucking morons come from?

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"Where do you fucking morons come from?"


Who are you to accuse other people of being morons?
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Apparently, it's difficult to type in English, whilst chugging globalist cock.
 Quoting: Dred


Great argument.



English isnt my first language. Not even my second. So srry. NOT!
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Okay, instead of MoRons, "those with the mind of a three year old, but they are the age of an adult.

And I'm someone with ethics, virtues, education, and a very high IQ.

Believe me, you are a fucking moron.

I could read at the college level at ten.

YOUR retard cracker bitchboy King Idiot Shitforbrains, Dubya? He can't READ. He's 60.
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Well, since the West is the wealthiest part of the world - we built our fortunes instead of hauling it out of the ground - we deserve it more than some backwards middle eastern country.

I mean, honestly, they barely have the money to support themselves so they are only doing the obvious: selling oil that is rightfully ours. In fact, because the West has spent so much money on development and aid, we should be getting it for free and selling it back to them.

That would be truly "free trade".
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Apparently, it's difficult to type in English, whilst chugging globalist cock.


Great argument.



English isnt my first language. Not even my second. So srry. NOT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74191

I should have known.
You've been drinking socialist kool-aid your entire life.
My condolences.
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And I'm someone with ethics, virtues, education, and a very high IQ.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 112622


You could have fooled me, troll.
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Well, since the West is the wealthiest part of the world - we built our fortunes instead of hauling it out of the ground - we deserve it more than some backwards middle eastern country.

I mean, honestly, they barely have the money to support themselves so they are only doing the obvious: selling oil that is rightfully ours. In fact, because the West has spent so much money on development and aid, we should be getting it for free and selling it back to them.

That would be truly "free trade".
 Quoting: W. W. Raupp


First off:
The west build there fortunes by exploiting other country's. Did you forget slavery, apartheid, all the orcastrated wars, i can go on for hours.
Do you even know how America got founded?

Second:
Aid isnt a gift. Its a deal.
Like the food for oil program. The west has never ever given anything away.
Thats why most country's are in incredible debt. Even the US hehehe but that has another reason. This is mainly cus YOU are being exploited by your government.
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1st.

Exploiting? No. Those people allowed themselves to be exploited. If they set aside their differences and other disagreements, they could have been an effective fighting force against Europeans. Africans, Indians and so on never did. I'd start blaming Europeans when their practices were totally outrageous, but for that time, it was normal. Presenting the slave trade as a legal argument against the present situation it bull.

2nd.

We have given much more money than this ludicrous food-for-oil programme alone. It's their fault OUR good money disappears in pockets of greedy politicians and dictators. It's the Africans and the people in the Middle Eastern's fault they cannot run a country properly. Well if they can't, then why not let the West take care of resources they cannot manage?

If you cannot manage a country, how can you manage your 'milk and honey'? Tell me.
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Double post.
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global anarchy....everyone does their fair share by governing themselves.
idealistic?....of course. but someone's(groups) ideals are being pursued any way you slice it.
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1st.

Exploiting? No. Those people allowed themselves to be exploited. If they set aside their differences and other disagreements, they could have been an effective fighting force against Europeans. Africans, Indians and so on never did. I'd start blaming Europeans when their practices were totally outrageous, but for that time, it was normal. Presenting the slave trade as a legal argument against the present situation it bull.

2nd.

We have given much more money than this ludicrous food-for-oil programme alone. It's their fault OUR good money disappears in pockets of greedy politicians and dictators. It's the Africans and the people in the Middle Eastern's fault they cannot run a country properly. Well if they can't, then why not let the West take care of resources they cannot manage?

If you cannot manage a country, how can you manage your 'milk and honey'? Tell me.
 Quoting: W. W. Raupp


O dear 1doh1 You really got fox'd, seriously. Turn that shit off for your own good.
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I never watch FOX, I concluded this myself. Look at Africa. The Middle East. The only possible conclusion is: they cannot run a country.
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Is it really that difficult to see Dred's position?

It's one thing to hope for and believe in the possibility of the entire world acting in accordance with right and just principles, making it happen is just a little more difficult.

It's not as though everyone on the planet will awaken one day and realize the folly of the current political systems and abandon the use of force. Deeply ingrained political thought processes, ethinic animosities and many people deriving rewards from the current system (justly or otherwise) ensure that it will not just fizzle out.

When there is an enormous task, divide it into smaller, workable parts to promote specialization and efficiency. That is exactly what nationalism is. A world divided up into workable regions in an attempt to discover and implement the most useful, just and effective means of governance. At times, nations, like individuals, become full of false pride and begin to point the finger at those around them for their own failings, which is why a nation must preserve it's ability to question itself and its direction.

The "Let 'er rip," mentality towards globalism is as dangerous as the blind allegiance to nationalism as the apex of civilization. You don't just toss a teenager the car keys on his 16th birthday without first teaching him how to drive as the "Let 'er rip" globalist seem to advocate. You certainly don't attempt to prevent him from learning and growing up and striking out on his own as the blind nationalists seem to advocate.

The course of progress is a slow one. The best way to ensure that progress is continuous is through careful steps forwards and the ability to take a pause and check your direction. Nationalism provides that for right now, but it is not the end of the journey by far.
The free man discovers his potential in service to a commonwealth.
The kept man discovers his aptitude for subverting a commonwealth to his own ends.





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