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JazzyG Forum Administrator  User ID: 5725534  United States04/02/2015 09:18 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MossadNews ‏@MossadNews 1m1 minute ago Khamenei sends Iranian navy to Bab el-Mandeb Straits. Iran arms store for Hamas bombed in Libya [link to fb.me] To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| GIJGD User ID: 57855978 United States04/03/2015 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: GIJGD 67124997 Ah, I see the one-man/woman encyclopedia that BlueRidgeDoom... strikes again. How does Israel "annex land FROM Israel"... exactly? lulz If we're talking about the kick-ass Caroline Glick... her idea is to annex most of the West Bank. I don't agree. Naftali Bennett's plan of only annexing the so-called 'Area C' of the West Bank.... is better. It is 60% of the entire WB, it includes strategic mountain range from which Pali terrorists could fire on Israeli cities... it also includes most of Jordan Valley from which Jordanian terrorists would smuggle Iranian weapons to Palis. Area C despite its big size only has a few 10,000's of Arabs, who could be offered permanent residence status eventually turned into Israel citizenship (provided they are not implicated in criminal activity in the meantime) By actual international law--- see San Remo decision by League of Nations + UN's Founding Article 80 enshrining thereof.... it would be kosher. Of course UN will still blow their gasket. And some radical Marxist judge at ICC on Arab oil-money payroll... will still call Israel war-criminals -- actual letter of international law be damned. Palestinians will get the green-light from the White House to kick off a horrific 3rd 'Intifada" also known as Kill Jewish kids and women kill kill kill pussycat kill Allahu Akbar Fun-time Hour! and well, annexing Area C won't be as easy as Naftali Bennett imagines. BUT, in case Palestinians start their Intifada war first -- and Hezbollah-Iran get involved as they promised --- then as punitive measure Israel will have nothing to lose but to annex strategic WB areas. Which is theirs anyway, if you know anything about history, religion, archeology or a smidgen of common sense. appreciate the response.. even w the added insults. im not afraid to ask something i dont understand. i just speak bluntly on what i do understand No problem. As they say in Tennessee, ask me once... I am not always nicey-nice :) ill take the truth over niceness anyday OK, if your mind is open, then let me drop some more mad funky-fresh knowledge up in dis piece, yo You know how always said the "capitulation or war" was always an outrageously false choice presented by the White House cheerleaders in order to cower any legitimate opposition -- including personal war waged against Netanyahu that same lady from earlier Caroline Glick nicely crystalized the horrible deal basics. Btw, BRD, I hope you aren't still operating under a silly illusion that Iran is just a misunderstood, fluffy "Protector of Armenians".... 'The Diplomatic track to War' -"Through their nuclear diplomacy, Obama and his comrades started the countdown to war." [link to www.jpost.com] EXCERPT: "US President Barack Obama, his advisers and media cheerleaders have long presented his nuclear diplomacy with the Iran as the only way to avoid war. Obama and his supporters have castigated as warmongers those who oppose his policy of nuclear appeasement with the world’s most prolific state sponsor of terrorism. But the opposite is the case. Had their view carried the day, war could have been averted. Through their nuclear diplomacy, Obama and his comrades started the countdown to war. In recent weeks we have watched the collapse of the allied powers’ negotiating positions. They have conceded every position that might have placed a significant obstacle in Iran’s path to developing a nuclear arsenal...." |
| GIJGD User ID: 57855978 United States04/03/2015 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another sharp take on the matter. What makes it noteworthy is the fact that former PM Ehud Barak is far from Netanyahu right-winger -----> Barak is in fact the most known Israeli Left-winger in the world after Rabin. (full disclosure: General Ehud Barak was an absolute unmitigated disaster in his brief stint as Israeli PM --- his cowardly surrender of South Lebanon to Hezbollah; as well as attempted surrender of WB/Gaza to Arafat & the Golan Heights to Assad....are a stuff of nightmares for every sane Israeli) But it's also true that Barak knows his military stuff, some even call him brilliant, even if his decisions are corrupted by ego & desire to please the masters in Washington (like Bill Clinton who made Barak dance like a beyotch) Anyway here's the Time article 'Ehud Barak: Iran Has Escaped a Noose' [link to time.com] EXCERPT: "But President Obama does our side no favor by arguing that a strike will ignite another Middle East war. A surgical strike on key nuclear facilities in Iran can throw them five years backward, and a repetition would become a major Iranian worry. On the spectrum of military actions, this would be closer to the raid that killed Osama bin Laden than to the invasion of Iraq. The possibility should not be rhetorically holstered. It may, finally, later down the stream be the only language Iran understands...." |
| < DL > (OP) User ID: 11619293 United States04/03/2015 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Daniel Nisman ‏@DannyNis 34s34 seconds ago Israel knew Iranian general was traveling with Hezbollah's Jihad Mughniyeh when he was killed in Golan strike. [link to www.ynetnews.com] … |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 52422236  Australia04/03/2015 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Statement by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu regarding the proposed framework for a deal with Iran: "I just came from a meeting of the Israeli cabinet. We discussed the proposed framework for a deal with Iran. The cabinet is united in strongly opposing the proposed deal. This deal would pose a grave danger to the region and to the world and would threaten the very survival of the State of Israel. The deal would not shut down a single nuclear facility in Iran, would not destroy a single centrifuge in Iran and will not stop R&D on Iran's advanced centrifuges. On the contrary. The deal would legitimize Iran's illegal nuclear program. It would leave Iran with a vast nuclear infrastructure. A vast nuclear infrastructure remains in place. The deal would lift sanctions almost immediately and this at the very time that Iran is stepping up its aggression and terror in the region and beyond the region. In a few years, the deal would remove the restrictions on Iran's nuclear program, enabling Iran to have a massive enrichment capacity that it could use to produce many nuclear bombs within a matter of months. The deal would greatly bolster Iran's economy. It would give Iran thereby tremendous means to propel its aggression and terrorism throughout the Middle East. Such a deal does not block Iran's path to the bomb. Such a deal paves Iran's path to the bomb. And it might very well spark a nuclear arms race throughout the Middle East and it would greatly increase the risks of terrible war. Now, some say that the only alternative to this bad deal is war. That's not true. There is a third alternative – standing firm, increasing the pressure on Iran until a good deal is achieved. And finally let me say one more thing. Iran is a regime that openly calls for Israel's destruction and openly and actively works towards that end. Just two days ago, in the midst of the negotiations in Lausanne, the commander of the Basij security forces in Iran said this: "The destruction of Israel is non-negotiable." Well, I want to make clear to all. The survival of Israel is non-negotiable. Israel will not accept an agreement which allows a country that vows to annihilate us to develop nuclear weapons, period. In addition, Israel demands that any final agreement with Iran will include a clear and unambiguous Iranian recognition of Israel's right to exist." |
| iSithPartDeux User ID: 37917842 United States04/03/2015 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Statement by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu regarding the proposed framework for a deal with Iran: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52422236 "I just came from a meeting of the Israeli cabinet. We discussed the proposed framework for a deal with Iran. The cabinet is united in strongly opposing the proposed deal. This deal would pose a grave danger to the region and to the world and would threaten the very survival of the State of Israel. The deal would not shut down a single nuclear facility in Iran, would not destroy a single centrifuge in Iran and will not stop R&D on Iran's advanced centrifuges. On the contrary. The deal would legitimize Iran's illegal nuclear program. It would leave Iran with a vast nuclear infrastructure. A vast nuclear infrastructure remains in place. The deal would lift sanctions almost immediately and this at the very time that Iran is stepping up its aggression and terror in the region and beyond the region. In a few years, the deal would remove the restrictions on Iran's nuclear program, enabling Iran to have a massive enrichment capacity that it could use to produce many nuclear bombs within a matter of months. The deal would greatly bolster Iran's economy. It would give Iran thereby tremendous means to propel its aggression and terrorism throughout the Middle East. Such a deal does not block Iran's path to the bomb. Such a deal paves Iran's path to the bomb. And it might very well spark a nuclear arms race throughout the Middle East and it would greatly increase the risks of terrible war. Now, some say that the only alternative to this bad deal is war. That's not true. There is a third alternative – standing firm, increasing the pressure on Iran until a good deal is achieved. And finally let me say one more thing. Iran is a regime that openly calls for Israel's destruction and openly and actively works towards that end. Just two days ago, in the midst of the negotiations in Lausanne, the commander of the Basij security forces in Iran said this: "The destruction of Israel is non-negotiable." Well, I want to make clear to all. The survival of Israel is non-negotiable. Israel will not accept an agreement which allows a country that vows to annihilate us to develop nuclear weapons, period. In addition, Israel demands that any final agreement with Iran will include a clear and unambiguous Iranian recognition of Israel's right to exist." Yep. It' still on. Morning all! iSithPartDeux |
| GIJGD User ID: 64207578 United States04/03/2015 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol, David Horowitz -- no, the other one -- continues his rude awakening from a Misobibi slumber. As usual a day late, and a shekel short. And wow, look at the polite always verbose British-accented gentleman, showing such "disrespect" for the media's Chosen One! [link to www.timesofisrael.com] 'Defeatist Obama’s deal with the Devil' "What was needed, and what was possible, was a better deal, but the US president lacked the resolve to insist upon it" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66728333 United States04/03/2015 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BlueRidgeDoom appreciate the response.. even w the added insults. im not afraid to ask something i dont understand. i just speak bluntly on what i do understand No problem. As they say in Tennessee, ask me once... I am not always nicey-nice :) ill take the truth over niceness anyday OK, if your mind is open, then let me drop some more mad funky-fresh knowledge up in dis piece, yo You know how always said the "capitulation or war" was always an outrageously false choice presented by the White House cheerleaders in order to cower any legitimate opposition -- including personal war waged against Netanyahu that same lady from earlier Caroline Glick nicely crystalized the horrible deal basics. Btw, BRD, I hope you aren't still operating under a silly illusion that Iran is just a misunderstood, fluffy "Protector of Armenians".... 'The Diplomatic track to War' -"Through their nuclear diplomacy, Obama and his comrades started the countdown to war." [link to www.jpost.com] EXCERPT: "US President Barack Obama, his advisers and media cheerleaders have long presented his nuclear diplomacy with the Iran as the only way to avoid war. Obama and his supporters have castigated as warmongers those who oppose his policy of nuclear appeasement with the world’s most prolific state sponsor of terrorism. But the opposite is the case. Had their view carried the day, war could have been averted. Through their nuclear diplomacy, Obama and his comrades started the countdown to war. In recent weeks we have watched the collapse of the allied powers’ negotiating positions. They have conceded every position that might have placed a significant obstacle in Iran’s path to developing a nuclear arsenal...." I have had this feeling the entire time.. but it's been a completely uneducated guess. Also, just to clear the waters, I don't give two fucks about the government of Iran and the ideology of all Islamic sects is insane. I just might be one of the few guys around that doesn't want to see mass death occur to Persia. The guys my age, I'm 28, who live there are liberal, open arms, and just want to enjoy life like the rest of us. Who breeds for terrorists? Iran or Saudi. Either way, I'm not denying Iran needs a revolution. |
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| GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States04/03/2015 10:20 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war.” Quoting: iSithPartDeux who said that? For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
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| iSithPartDeux User ID: 37917842 United States04/03/2015 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war.” Quoting: iSithPartDeux who said that? Winston Churchill, when Neville Chamberlain came back with a "signed" peace agreement with Adolf Hitler... Very relevant to this time and age... history repeats. iSithPartDeux |
| GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States04/03/2015 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war.” Quoting: iSithPartDeux who said that? Winston Churchill, when Neville Chamberlain came back with a "signed" peace agreement with Adolf Hitler... Very relevant to this time and age... history repeats. I'd say so....I'm going to lay low and lurk today, not at all happy about this bs agreement everyone in their right mind knows Iran will never live up to, it's a repeat of the North Korean situation. For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
| iSithPartDeux User ID: 37917842 United States04/03/2015 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Winston Churchill, when Neville Chamberlain came back with a "signed" peace agreement with Adolf Hitler... Very relevant to this time and age... history repeats. I'd say so....I'm going to lay low and lurk today, not at all happy about this bs agreement everyone in their right mind knows Iran will never live up to, it's a repeat of the North Korean situation. Yeah it is almost worse than that. Given the tone coming from Bibi and the Israeli Cabinet, I would say chances of overt action from the IDF and IAF have increased significantly. iSithPartDeux |
| GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States04/03/2015 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: iSithPartDeux Winston Churchill, when Neville Chamberlain came back with a "signed" peace agreement with Adolf Hitler... Very relevant to this time and age... history repeats. I'd say so....I'm going to lay low and lurk today, not at all happy about this bs agreement everyone in their right mind knows Iran will never live up to, it's a repeat of the North Korean situation. Yeah it is almost worse than that. Given the tone coming from Bibi and the Israeli Cabinet, I would say chances of overt action from the IDF and IAF have increased significantly. I hate to say it but this is as much Israel's fault as it is the american/allied administrations. This never should have gone on as long as it has, it dealt with from the beginning when they started getting inklings of this it wouldn't have to be anywhere near as bloody as it's going to be. For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
| iSithPartDeux User ID: 37917842 United States04/03/2015 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd say so....I'm going to lay low and lurk today, not at all happy about this bs agreement everyone in their right mind knows Iran will never live up to, it's a repeat of the North Korean situation. Yeah it is almost worse than that. Given the tone coming from Bibi and the Israeli Cabinet, I would say chances of overt action from the IDF and IAF have increased significantly. I hate to say it but this is as much Israel's fault as it is the american/allied administrations. This never should have gone on as long as it has, it dealt with from the beginning when they started getting inklings of this it wouldn't have to be anywhere near as bloody as it's going to be. Yeah, it almost did go down in 2007 and again in 2008. Should have. They also gave the green light to action in 2014, but stopped because Obama threatened to shoot down their planes... I can't even wrap my head around the traitorousness of that. iSithPartDeux |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58124616 United States04/03/2015 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: GodzillaReturns I'd say so....I'm going to lay low and lurk today, not at all happy about this bs agreement everyone in their right mind knows Iran will never live up to, it's a repeat of the North Korean situation. Yeah it is almost worse than that. Given the tone coming from Bibi and the Israeli Cabinet, I would say chances of overt action from the IDF and IAF have increased significantly. I hate to say it but this is as much Israel's fault as it is the american/allied administrations. This never should have gone on as long as it has, it dealt with from the beginning when they started getting inklings of this it wouldn't have to be anywhere near as bloody as it's going to be. Yeah, it almost did go down in 2007 and again in 2008. Should have. They also gave the green light to action in 2014, but stopped because Obama threatened to shoot down their planes... I can't even wrap my head around the traitorousness of that. How does it feel that the black man now control what Israel can and can not do. oh shalom shalom must now deal with a NUCLEAR Iran lolz |
| GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States04/03/2015 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: iSithPartDeux Yeah it is almost worse than that. Given the tone coming from Bibi and the Israeli Cabinet, I would say chances of overt action from the IDF and IAF have increased significantly. I hate to say it but this is as much Israel's fault as it is the american/allied administrations. This never should have gone on as long as it has, it dealt with from the beginning when they started getting inklings of this it wouldn't have to be anywhere near as bloody as it's going to be. Yeah, it almost did go down in 2007 and again in 2008. Should have. They also gave the green light to action in 2014, but stopped because Obama threatened to shoot down their planes... I can't even wrap my head around the traitorousness of that. How does it feel that the black man now control what Israel can and can not do. oh shalom shalom must now deal with a NUCLEAR Iran lolz time will tell...you may end up choking on that For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
| GIJGD User ID: 40870393 United States04/03/2015 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: GIJGD 67124997 No problem. As they say in Tennessee, ask me once... I am not always nicey-nice :) ill take the truth over niceness anyday OK, if your mind is open, then let me drop some more mad funky-fresh knowledge up in dis piece, yo You know how always said the "capitulation or war" was always an outrageously false choice presented by the White House cheerleaders in order to cower any legitimate opposition -- including personal war waged against Netanyahu that same lady from earlier Caroline Glick nicely crystalized the horrible deal basics. Btw, BRD, I hope you aren't still operating under a silly illusion that Iran is just a misunderstood, fluffy "Protector of Armenians".... 'The Diplomatic track to War' -"Through their nuclear diplomacy, Obama and his comrades started the countdown to war." [link to www.jpost.com] EXCERPT: "US President Barack Obama, his advisers and media cheerleaders have long presented his nuclear diplomacy with the Iran as the only way to avoid war. Obama and his supporters have castigated as warmongers those who oppose his policy of nuclear appeasement with the world’s most prolific state sponsor of terrorism. But the opposite is the case. Had their view carried the day, war could have been averted. Through their nuclear diplomacy, Obama and his comrades started the countdown to war. In recent weeks we have watched the collapse of the allied powers’ negotiating positions. They have conceded every position that might have placed a significant obstacle in Iran’s path to developing a nuclear arsenal...." I have had this feeling the entire time.. but it's been a completely uneducated guess. Also, just to clear the waters, I don't give two fucks about the government of Iran and the ideology of all Islamic sects is insane. I just might be one of the few guys around that doesn't want to see mass death occur to Persia. The guys my age, I'm 28, who live there are liberal, open arms, and just want to enjoy life like the rest of us. Who breeds for terrorists? Iran or Saudi. Either way, I'm not denying Iran needs a revolution. "Who breeds terrorists, Iran or Saudi Arabia"? BOTH. B-O-T-H. (careful to pull the age card, I am like 10 years younger than you are, and happen to LOVE Persian girls/people. If this is resolved amicably, it's safe to say both I and the Israeli people would LOVE to normalize relations with Iran. Unfortunately there is little matter of APOCALYPTIC Twelver Psychoes in Teheran who have entirely other, uh, plans for Iran, Israel and the rest of the "Satanic" West. Giving them the bomb, let alone infrastructure to build entire nuke arsenal... is beyond retarded. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68695969 United Kingdom04/03/2015 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BREAKING: Netanyahu tells Obama that an agreement based on the framework deal with Iran will threaten Israel's existance Quoting: < DL > Well shit, Israel feels threatened. Prepare to be Sampson Optioned, folks. And you were worried about Iran and Russia? LOL Israel won't do shit. All bark no bite. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66728333 United States04/03/2015 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel police arrest 2 jewish guys for faking a kidnapping by Palestinians Judea and Samaria District Police said Thursday that Asraf had been found in Kiryat Arba with canned food and a sleeping bag. "The 'missing man' and his friends staged a kidnapping," the police spokesman said. "We will investigate the reasons behind this and will handle this to the full extent of the law. We take this hoax very seriously. A waste of resources and rattling the entire defense system because of a deception is a most serious case, especially in this sensitive security situation." Pics [link to i.imgur.com] [link to i.imgur.com] [link to i.imgur.com] Fear of abduction: scans in Anun [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Jewish Men Staged the kidnapping and taken to detention hearings [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]  |
| JazzyG Forum Administrator User ID: 5725534 United States04/03/2015 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like no other country in the entire world has kids that do shite like that. Only the Jews would be demonized and laughed at for it. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
| < DL > (OP) User ID: 11619293 United States04/03/2015 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why again is it okay for Pakistan to have nukes by a CIA deal and not Iran through a heavily monitored P5+1 deal? Quoting: BlueRidgeDoom You chicken hawks amazing me. US has contingency plans in place with Pakistan. The govt will eventually fall or lose control and we will secure their nukes. Pakistan could potentially have hundreds of nukes if nothing is done. Trust me, status quo will not continue much longer. Maybe they are next in line for an "arab spring" |
| GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States04/03/2015 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why again is it okay for Pakistan to have nukes by a CIA deal and not Iran through a heavily monitored P5+1 deal? Quoting: BlueRidgeDoom You chicken hawks amazing me. US has contingency plans in place with Pakistan. The govt will eventually fall or lose control and we will secure their nukes. Pakistan could potentially have hundreds of nukes if nothing is done. Trust me, status quo will not continue much longer. Maybe they are next in line for an "arab spring" actually I'm of the position that they shouldn't have them,way too unstable of a country next to another nuke country. For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
