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Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group

 
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Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
This is a brief quote from the article. The link has more.

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The hoax originated with an October 3, 2001 press release from the pro-Hamas group, the Islamic Association for Palestine. It said:

An acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres during which Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying “don’t worry about American pressure, we control America.”

Notably, in the same press release, the direct quotation “we control America” changed to “we the Jewish people control America.”
IAP wrote:

According [to] the Israeli Hebrew radio, Col [sic] Yisrael Wednesday, Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and turn the US against us. At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying “...I want to tell you something clear, don’t worry about American pressure on Israel, we the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”

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"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don´t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
~ Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon speaking to Shimon Peres, October 3, 2001, quoted from the Independent Palestinian Information Network and the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.~

So what's the difference!
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While the Islamic Association for Palestine admitted that “This quote...cannot be confirmed in independent sources,” it failed to state unambiguously that Sharon never uttered the words and that the alleged quotation first appeared in a press release from the pro-Hamas IAP.

Since IAP said that Kol Yisrael was their source and Kol Yisrael denies broadcasting any such report, there should be no question that IAP was attempting to perpetrate a hoax.

The syndicate also should have written “alleged quote” whenever referring to the supposed statement by Sharon.

Furthermore, the Editor’s Note implies that the problem was one merely of mistaken attribution – that it would have been acceptable for Geyer to use the bogus quotation had she cited “Palestinian sources.” Obviously, since these sources have been proven false, the quote should not have been published at all.

Additionally, the Editor’s Note fails entirely to address the other baseless assertion in Geyer’s May 10 column, her outrageous statement: “Look at U.S. television: One minute, you see pro-Israeli ads saying the Arabs are all dogs...”

Repeated CAMERA requests for Geyer to identify the specific ad that led to her “interpretation” have gone unanswered. Clearly there is no way that her readers could have understood that she was “interpreting” rather than paraphrasing or quoting from a supposed ad. Since it is extremely unlikely that any “U.S. television” station would have broadcast any such ad, Geyer and her syndicate owe her readers another “Editor’s Note” or apology.
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"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don´t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
~ Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon speaking to Shimon Peres, October 3, 2001, quoted from the Independent Palestinian Information Network and the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.~

So what's the difference!
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The difference is null: BOTH ARE LIES from Hamas. Didn't you read the article?
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Re: Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
Didn't you read that it was also quoted in the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs?
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Re: Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn
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Re: Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
Ummm… yeah…. But aren't you forgetting people have their OWN EYE'S?

you think you're making things better when you trot out stupid shit like this. Well guess what? you're FUCKING NOT!

leave it to the pro's, eh?
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Re: Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
Who cares what Sharon said or how he said it.

The point is IT IS VERY VERY OBVIOUS THAT ISRAEL DOES CONTROL THE USA.
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I totally agree, Israel controls America, why else are we giving Israel how many billions every year, free with no payback expected.
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"why else are we giving Israel how many billions every year, free with no payback expected."

Because they are a democracy surrounded by hostile dictatorships?
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Who cares what Sharon said or how he said it.

The point is IT IS VERY VERY OBVIOUS THAT ISRAEL DOES CONTROL THE USA.
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AND THE UK!
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Many thanks OPie...

Keep up the good work...

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"why else are we giving Israel how many billions every year, free with no payback expected."

Because they are a democracy surrounded by hostile dictatorships?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373


It would seem that whenever Israel dislikes the democratically elected government of one of these surrounding countries, Israel refers to them as 'terrorists'.
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"It would seem that whenever Israel dislikes the democratically elected government "

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Democratically elected?

Jordan? A kingdom, no elections.

Syria? The same family has been in charge for 36 years.

Egypt? The same man has been in charge for 25 years.

Saudi Arabia? A kingdom, no elections.

These are democratically elected governments?
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Important.
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Re: Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
The Jews control the USA, the UK France, Germany in fact all of europe. Theyve stolen most of africa through unrepayable loans of other peoples money.
Can you say usury?
They control the bulk of drug running, but most particlualry ecstacy to finance black ops, just the sdame a s the US has done for years with cocaina and heroin.
Hoax my arse - its real alright
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They are scum, and the world will be free to co-exist in peace only when they are disarmed, unmasked and neutralised.

Fuck em

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"why else are we giving Israel how many billions every year, free with no payback expected."

Because they are a democracy surrounded by hostile dictatorships?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373




no democracy in israel

they are an apartheid nation

most porn originates in israel, most financial scams

they control the world prostitute trade

they are nothing but immoral criminals and torturing stealing bullies
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Re: Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
Sharon stated this in the Knesset. It will be in the record.
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Re: Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
June 2001 (G)

Ephrahim Halevy is head of the Israeli Mossad from 1998 to 2002.
A 60-page internal memo on the Israeli “art student” spy ring is prepared by the DEA's Office of Security Programs. [Read the memo here: DEA report, 6/01] The memo is a compilation of dozens of field reports, and was meant only for the eyes of senior officials at the Justice Department (of which the DEA is adjunct), but it is leaked to the press around December 2001. The report connects the spies to efforts to foil investigations into Israeli organized crime activity involving the importation of the drug Ecstasy. The spies also appear to be snooping on top secret military bases. For instance, on April 30, 2001, an Air Force alert was issued from Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma City concerning “possible intelligence collection being conducted by Israeli Art Students.” Tinker AFB houses AWACS surveillance craft and Stealth bombers. By the time of the report, the US has “apprehended or expelled close to 120 Israeli nationals” but many remain at large. [Le Monde, 3/5/02, Salon, 5/7/02] An additional 20 or so Israeli spies are apprehended between June and 9/11. [Fox News 12/12/01]

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This hoax busting is an important reminder in these days of rabid anti-semitism.
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Good post OP... this board is getting so anti-semetic it is sickening!
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Good post OP... this board is getting so anti-semetic it is sickening!
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I think you mean critical of Israel. And for good reason. Nations are judged by their actions.
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Re: Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
who cares who said what or misquoted or lied in print ... the truth is that it is the reality of the current fuggin mess we are in... we could have been nice to everybody in the world when we had it so good ... but no, we had to be totally greedy pricks and defer to every demand and whim of Israel, while destroying our economy, jobs and the environment ... so then what do they do...they drag us into WWIII by sticking 911 up our ass.
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who cares who said what or misquoted or lied in print ... the truth is that it is the reality of the current fuggin mess we are in... we could have been nice to everybody in the world when we had it so good ... but no, we had to be totally greedy pricks and defer to every demand and whim of Israel, while destroying our economy, jobs and the environment ... so then what do they do...they drag us into WWIII by sticking 911 up our ass.
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I'm sorry but you must be mistaken. Israel is above criticism. It can do no wrong. Just ask George Bush. If you believe differently, then you better shut up or you'll lose your job (ask the authors of the now famous Harvard Study about that).....but Sharon still didn't say that. I swear. He couldn't have, because the zionists say he didn't even though it went out over the airwaves.
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Cut Isreal loose.Let 'em control themselves with their own ill-gotten funds...
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Re: Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
You on-the-fence potential nazis need to understand that lies about Israel are more common than truth.

Sharon did NOT say he or Israel controls the USA.

Hamas made it up.
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They contol the press and now what everyone to see them in a better light. stfu
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"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
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"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.
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"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online
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Re: Sharon did NOT say Israel "controls" the USA. That was an internet hoax that began with a pro-Hamas group
Who cares what Sharon said, or didn't say. The fact of the matter is that they do.

It is obvious to anyone who has eyes to see it.

Look for the Jews that are close to Bush.

Look at PNAC.

Look at the media.

Look at Hollywood.

Look at the banks.

Look at the rampant name changing of people like Rothschild.

Look at the kabbalistic sybolism behind the "illuminati", and the masons.

Look at the Ivy leauge schools, and there presidents.

Look at the corperations, and their founders, and owners.

Look at the REALITY of who controls what, and the answer should be obvious.

2 percent of the people should not be involved in 70 percent of the wealth management.

The information is there, but stop chasing "shadow people" and start researching REAL people in control.

What you will find will stagger you, if you are smart and open minded.
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