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Proof that Jesus IS God and Yahweh Jehovah is false

 
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The Name of Jesus

The Name Jesus (Yeshua) means "Salvation". Some people claim his name means "Yahweh is Salvation" but this is not true.

His name is YEshua not YAHshua.

In Greek his name became IEsous and in Latin JEsus.

YE - IE - JE not YAH

Jesus IS Salvation (Yeshua).

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He Who is Above All Others

We are told that Yahweh /Jehovah or whatever you want to call "him", is The God of The Flesh (Jeremiah 32:27)

But Jesus Christ has Authority of BOTH Heaven AND Earth, Flesh AND Spirit.


We are told that Yahweh / Jehovah , whatever you want to call him, is "Lord" (Adonai)...


But Jesus Christ is LORD of All LORDS and KING of All KINGS. (Revelation 19:16)

There is no power, dominion, or authority above him and his Name is above all other names, not in just this age but also in the age to come (Ephesians 1:21)


"God is Light and in him is no darkness" - 1 John 1:5

Jesus Christ is The Light that came into The Physical World as The Light of The World (John 1:9 /John 8:12).

Jesus is The Pure Expression of The Light. He is Both God (The Light) and The Son of God (The Physical Body he appeared in).

In The Name of JESUS - the sick gets healed.
In The Name of JESUS - miracles happen.
In The Name of JESUS - demons are cast away.



May The Grace and Peace of The Lord of Lords Jesus Christ be with you, and may he help you all find Truth.

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6I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness; I will take hold of your hand. I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles, 7to open eyes that are blind, to free captives from prison and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness. 8I am the Lord; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols. 9See, the former things have taken place, and new things I declare; before they spring into being I announce them to you. Isaiah 42

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

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You seem sincere, but sadly deluded...

There is no witness of Christ Jesus without witness of HIS Father. Jesus Gives HIS Greatest and last witness before being taken from the garden in John 17. Might want to read that short chapter; only 24 verses.

St. John also Witnesses of the inseparable nature of Father and Son in ch 2 of First epistle:
18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


Jesus Witnesses in John 14:6 that HE Is The Way Unto The Father... "...No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME!"...


Many, many more Witnesses from Christ Jesus that HE Only Does HIS Father's Will and only Knows, likewise, "...those Who Do The Will Of MY Father Which Art In Heaven". Matt 7:21

HE Goes On in verse 22 to state that HE Will Reject those who beseech HIM for admission... Here are the 3 concise verses that go hand/glove with John 3:6 "Marvel not that I say unto you, Ye Must Be Born-Again!"
21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.



YahWeh, Jehovah, Abba, Father, Elohim are ALL Names identifying Jesus' Father.

There is no Claiming Jesus if you deny HIS Father...
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The Born-Again Witness of the OT, Ezekiel 36:26-27 is the most concise and exact Witness of The Born-Again Life:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Only The Father Can Give us "a New Heart of (HIS) Flesh.
Only The Father Enables us to KNOW and DO HIS Will and Keep HIS Statutes as we live our lives In Accord With HIM...

Jesus Is Father's Gift.
HE Gave us HIS Son to Enable our ability to Come Into HIS Presence and and make our surrender, our Leap Of Faith; the action through which Father Accepts us into HIS Accord.
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Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342757


Your God is not the True God - Jesus Lord of All Lords is The True God:

This is the message we have heard from him Jesus and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.

You are preaching about a different God, not Jesus Christ The Lord of All Lords which no other name is above!



You seem sincere, but sadly deluded...

There is no witness of Christ Jesus without witness of HIS Father. Jesus Gives HIS Greatest and last witness before being taken from the garden in John 17. Might want to read that short chapter; only 24 verses.

St. John also Witnesses of the inseparable nature of Father and Son in ch 2 of First epistle:
18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


Jesus Witnesses in John 14:6 that HE Is The Way Unto The Father... "...No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME!"...


Many, many more Witnesses from Christ Jesus that HE Only Does HIS Father's Will and only Knows, likewise, "...those Who Do The Will Of MY Father Which Art In Heaven". Matt 7:21

HE Goes On in verse 22 to state that HE Will Reject those who beseech HIM for admission... Here are the 3 concise verses that go hand/glove with John 3:6 "Marvel not that I say unto you, Ye Must Be Born-Again!"
21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.



YahWeh, Jehovah, Abba, Father, Elohim are ALL Names identifying Jesus' Father.

There is no Claiming Jesus if you deny HIS Father...
 Quoting: Lester 59215280


YahWeh, Jehovah, Abba, Father, Elohim are ALL Names identifying Jesus' Father.

There is no Claiming Jesus if you deny HIS Father...
 Quoting: Lester 59215280


Yahweh is just "Lord of Israel" and of "All Flesh"...

unfortunately for him, all authority of BOTH Heaven AND Earth is under The Power of Christ (Matthew 28:18).

Yahweh may have been "Lord" for some, but Jesus Christ is Lord of lords and King of Kings.


"All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them."

"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
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Jesus is The True I AM - The True GOD.
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Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342757


Your God is not the True God - Jesus Lord of All Lords is The True God:

This is the message we have heard from him Jesus and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.

You are preaching about a different God, not Jesus Christ The Lord of All Lords which no other name is above!
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Sure. I am preaching the Father of Jesus Christ, the only God.
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I believe there's like a code to be used to be able understand all of the bible.

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Sure. I am preaching the Father of Jesus Christ, the only God.
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The Only Thing you are Preaching is Satanism.


This:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Does Not Agree with THE TRUTH Jesus Christ Revealed:

I John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.


If you want to believe that God is half good and half bad, half light and half dark, half life and half death, half God and half Satan then that is your choice.

You are free to run away from The Eternal Light of Christ because Jesus CHRIST is LOVE and FORGIVENSS - Lord of All Lords - The Authority of All heaven and Earth - Flesh and Spirit.
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Sure. I am preaching the Father of Jesus Christ, the only God.
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The Only Thing you are Preaching is Satanism.


This:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Does Not Agree with THE TRUTH Jesus Christ Revealed:

I John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.


If you want to believe that God is half good and half bad, half light and half dark, half life and half death, half God and half Satan then that is your choice.

You are free to run away from The Eternal Light of Christ because Jesus CHRIST is LOVE and FORGIVENSS - Lord of All Lords - The Authority of All heaven and Earth - Flesh and Spirit.
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Moron.
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Moron.
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That's fine. Call me whatever you like. You are Forgiven and Jesus The Christ - Lord of Lords and Power of All Heaven and Earth still Loves and Forgives you.

hf
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The Name of Jesus

The Name Jesus (Yeshua) means "Salvation". Some people claim his name means "Yahweh is Salvation" but this is not true.

His name is YEshua not YAHshua.

In Greek his name became IEsous and in Latin JEsus.


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NO. You couldn't be more wrong, more egregiously mistaken or egregiously deceptively misleading the flock to destruction.

The Name of Yah needs to be in His son's name, and that would make your assertions obobviously false to all who know the name of Yah is IAUE, pronounced correctly as the patriarchs all knew, from hearing it from His angel, his word, his voice, with an AH sound, after the I or Ee or Y sound at the start of the name.

You follow the traditions of the Babylonians who hide the name by which all men can be calling upon, and using, and be saved.

You are deliberately mispronouncing the name which is a sin, to make the Yah sound which is inherent in the name of The
Creator Father, IAUE, (Yahueh, Yahuwah, Iahuweh, Iahuwah, Yahweh, but not Jehovah, this is also very erroneous, just like Jesus and Yeshua are erroneous, by design)

and if you do not stop that sin, you will be held eternally accountable for all the souls you misled, to the slaughter, with you and your priesthood.
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And only in the religion of the Solar Deity or Sol Invictus, as the Vatican says is their God, which they got knowledge of from the Chaldeans (Babylonians)

Satan, the Horned One, the Planetary, Astral and Solar God, ever said to be his son, who is his father, incarnate.

You know this. You should shut your damned mouth and tell the people the truth.
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And read some fucking history... of your own damnable religion which celebrates the Death-bringer, who is naturally posing as the light-bearer.

[link to ia701209.us.archive.org]

but, you will obey your masters, right? They say you cannot read this book. haha
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and if you do not stop that sin, you will be held eternally accountable for all the souls you misled, to the slaughter, with you and your priesthood.
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Your Father loves Death so I am not surprised you would say such a thing. You act just like your Father Satan.

Please open your heart to Jesus Christ and allow Love, Peace, and Mercy to flow through it. Allow Jesus Christ into your heart so that you can act like a Child of The Most High - The Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

hf
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on the second reply to your lies i made a typo

I tried to type 'Only in the religion of the Solar Deity (also known as Saturnian or Satanic doctrine, is the son called the father, incarnate.'

The Son in Satanism is always his father, incarnate.


That is not the Biblical religion. That is the Satanism of Christianity, which is all Solar Deity worship.

So go to hell motherfucker with your hatred for the Bible.

Just throw it away, do not carry it any more to Sun-Day worship in your temples of destruction.
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Jesus is not "God"

The Gods are Elohim / Anunnaki.


YHWH, Lucifer and all the Fallen are Aliens.


My god is not an Alien or a Man who came to save us.


Jesus was sent here by the Creator of All that Is.

The Infinite Creator of the Universe is my God.

Jesus was only an Emisary, if you worship him as God you are one step away from falling down the slope to worshiping Anu !
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You cant use parts of a mans writings to discredit his other writings.

If you dont believe what someone wrote, you dont believe it.

I love these people who use the bible to disprove what the bible says.
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and if you do not stop that sin, you will be held eternally accountable for all the souls you misled, to the slaughter, with you and your priesthood.
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Your Father loves Death so I am not surprised you would say such a thing. You act just like your Father Satan.

Please open your heart to Jesus Christ and allow Love, Peace, and Mercy to flow through it. Allow Jesus Christ into your heart so that you can act like a Child of The Most High - The Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

hf
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You do not know my father, or you would know this is a lie.

My Father is Yah, who you and your Churches ignore, malign, mischaracterise, sideline, ridicule and slander.

You love your God of Death, Sol Invictus.
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And I wholly and utterly reject Jesus Christ the Christian Solar God's Baby Saviour-figure.

You would do better by reading that book above before making an utter fool to everyone or continuing in your religion of lies that your shepherds which are wolves in sheep's clothing have taught you.
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Jesus is not "God"

The Gods are Elohim / Anunnaki.


YHWH, Lucifer and all the Fallen are Aliens.


My god is not an Alien or a Man who came to save us.


Jesus was sent here by the Creator of All that Is.

The Infinite Creator of the Universe is my God.

Jesus was only an Emisary, if you worship him as God you are one step away from falling down the slope to worshiping Anu !
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Why would you choose to believe then annunaki are the creators and not the slaves?

Their is nothing in any cultural record to indicate that the god of the Israelites were below the annunaki so its obviously just more christian hate mongering, especially since all deity levels have interchangable names to you guys until its time to insult YHWH, the foreman of Creation.
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Jesus is not "God"

The Gods are Elohim / Anunnaki.


YHWH, Lucifer and all the Fallen are Aliens.


My god is not an Alien or a Man who came to save us.


Jesus was sent here by the Creator of All that Is.

The Infinite Creator of the Universe is my God.

Jesus was only an Emisary, if you worship him as God you are one step away from falling down the slope to worshiping Anu !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57981403


Why would you choose to believe then annunaki are the creators and not the slaves?

Their is nothing in any cultural record to indicate that the god of the Israelites were below the annunaki so its obviously just more christian hate mongering, especially since all deity levels have interchangable names to you guys until its time to insult YHWH, the foreman of Creation.
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You are not understanding me.


The Anunnaki are not our Creator. All the Sumerian tablets say that they found a primitive humanoid that was already here and they blended their DNA with it.

That is not Creation that is Manipulation.


The Anunnaki / Elohim made Earth. But it was not a Creation Event.

It was the Destruction of Tiamat. Earth is the Leftovers from a planet they destroyed.

And Enki is a Genesis Scientist that was sent here to terraform it.

I didnt say that the god of the Jews was below the Anunnaki, I said that the god of the Jews IS Anunnaki !
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Jesus is not "God"

The Gods are Elohim / Anunnaki.


YHWH, Lucifer and all the Fallen are Aliens.


My god is not an Alien or a Man who came to save us.


Jesus was sent here by the Creator of All that Is.

The Infinite Creator of the Universe is my God.

Jesus was only an Emisary, if you worship him as God you are one step away from falling down the slope to worshiping Anu !
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No, IAUE is not one of the fallen or descended ones; He and Yahushua made them, but they are not of the ones who decided to go against them.

Of course, lucifer is one of the fallen. Only in that you are correct.

Of course if you want to say the Creators are alien, as in alien from earth, as in not human, you can.
But it is kind of misleading to humans.

But I see your point. But why? Why do you say that? The Creators, IAUE (YWHW) and His Co-Creator,who became the Messiah, Yahushua, who is separate from his Father, completely, (but in total agreement with Him), who carries his Father's Name, in his own name, (which all ignore, as they continue to ignore Their truths) are spirits, as are the fallen angels of Genesis. But that is quite another thing than saying they are 'of' them. All were given free will.

they stayed on their good intented course, the plan of life, and the 1/3 of the other spirits they made, to watch over humanity, decided to go with Hailail, (translated as Lucifer).

But this was not what IAUE or Yahushua did, nor did 2/3 of their Truth-bearing spirits who continue to stay the course and do their jobs.
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Jesus is not "God"

The Gods are Elohim / Anunnaki.


YHWH, Lucifer and all the Fallen are Aliens.


My god is not an Alien or a Man who came to save us.


Jesus was sent here by the Creator of All that Is.

The Infinite Creator of the Universe is my God.

Jesus was only an Emisary, if you worship him as God you are one step away from falling down the slope to worshiping Anu !
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No, IAUE is not one of the fallen or descended ones; He and Yahushua made them, but they are not of the ones who decided to go against them.

Of course, lucifer is one of the fallen. Only in that you are correct.

Of course if you want to say the Creators are alien, as in alien from earth, as in not human, you can.
But it is kind of misleading to humans.

But I see your point. But why? Why do you say that? The Creators, IAUE (YWHW) and His Co-Creator,who became the Messiah, Yahushua, who is separate from his Father, completely, (but in total agreement with Him), who carries his Father's Name, in his own name, (which all ignore, as they continue to ignore Their truths) are spirits, as are the fallen angels of Genesis. But that is quite another thing than saying they are 'of' them. All were given free will.

they stayed on their good intented course, the plan of life, and the 1/3 of the other spirits they made, to watch over humanity, decided to go with Hailail, (translated as Lucifer).

But this was not what IAUE or Yahushua did, nor did 2/3 of their Truth-bearing spirits who continue to stay the course and do their jobs.
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The 2/3rd of the Heavenly Host stayed loyal to Enlil the Son of Anu.

While the rest rebelled with Enki.


You have to read the Sumerian to understand that Enlil is YHWH and Enki is Lucifer.

Everything that was attributed to YHWH in the OT was the things that were attributed to Enlil in the Sumerian tablets.

Everything that was attributed to Lucifer was also then attributed to the acts of Enki.
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And yes, when you say that 'Jesus' is ... an emissary you are right, ... continue to worship him as God' is partly right and partly wrong...

Jesus is the Solar Deity Saviour figure who according to the Scriptures we get the Bible from, will not save you, but will destroy mightily, for that is his mission, from Satan, who is his father. This is seen in history, and proven to be correct all thru the Solar Deity worshipping religions thru the ages.

But the Solar Deity Father, Satan, does not like his son, even, (Cain, his first son ...) and wants even them to be destroyed after using the son as he does, for his worship.

So even though Christians think they are following the Bible, they are not, not in the most important things. Even down to the very God and Saviour figure they honour, they follow Saturnian religion, the worship of the Hidden God, Saturn.

Who only wants to be worshipped alone, in the end, he will rid himself of the son and the mother figures, they are only used as tools of his deep and great deception upon humans.

they are only used to gather in as many humans by deceit and manipulation as he can.

Satan is a monotheistic God. All the Babylonians and Egyptians in the priesthood knew this, and so do your leaders.

That is why the big push since the last 25 years to declare that 'Jesus is God'... by Baptists, who never used to say that.

In the bible, however, that is another whole religion,whose directly opposed doctrines have always been the difference between those who follow IAUE, (Yah) or the followers of Baal (Molech, Saturn, Kronos, Satan...Zeus etc).

Yahushua wept over this condition of mankind's stubborn refusal to see and accept and love the truth, and love his Father, whose idea it was to make all, and Whom he helped, after being made.
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Jesus is not "God"

The Gods are Elohim / Anunnaki.


YHWH, Lucifer and all the Fallen are Aliens.


My god is not an Alien or a Man who came to save us.


Jesus was sent here by the Creator of All that Is.

The Infinite Creator of the Universe is my God.

Jesus was only an Emisary, if you worship him as God you are one step away from falling down the slope to worshiping Anu !
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No, IAUE is not one of the fallen or descended ones; He and Yahushua made them, but they are not of the ones who decided to go against them.

Of course, lucifer is one of the fallen. Only in that you are correct.

Of course if you want to say the Creators are alien, as in alien from earth, as in not human, you can.
But it is kind of misleading to humans.

But I see your point. But why? Why do you say that? The Creators, IAUE (YWHW) and His Co-Creator,who became the Messiah, Yahushua, who is separate from his Father, completely, (but in total agreement with Him), who carries his Father's Name, in his own name, (which all ignore, as they continue to ignore Their truths) are spirits, as are the fallen angels of Genesis. But that is quite another thing than saying they are 'of' them. All were given free will.

they stayed on their good intented course, the plan of life, and the 1/3 of the other spirits they made, to watch over humanity, decided to go with Hailail, (translated as Lucifer).

But this was not what IAUE or Yahushua did, nor did 2/3 of their Truth-bearing spirits who continue to stay the course and do their jobs.
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The 2/3rd of the Heavenly Host stayed loyal to Enlil the Son of Anu.

While the rest rebelled with Enki.


You have to read the Sumerian to understand that Enlil is YHWH and Enki is Lucifer.

Everything that was attributed to YHWH in the OT was the things that were attributed to Enlil in the Sumerian tablets.

Everything that was attributed to Lucifer was also then attributed to the acts of Enki.
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Yes, I know , I have read it, but it is a skewed comparison, because that assumes that YHWH had an equal, with Him, which is not so according to the scriptural manuscripts ...

Sumer was a relgion which lacked vital truths, which is why Abraham was directed, invited by Yah to come out, (out of it)who was a DIFFERENT SPIRIT than they worshipped, (not their God, who was solar/planetary)
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Re: Proof that Jesus IS God and Yahweh Jehovah is false
i got no dog in this fight any longer. religion is BS. PERIOD. but im sure celestial maiden or DGN will be along shortly to challenge your charge that jesus is god and jehova is fake.
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Re: Proof that Jesus IS God and Yahweh Jehovah is false
Every civilisation has their version of what happened orinally, but you know what, all their versions (all their religions) are exactly the same in all the main principles and characters of their Gods, except the Biblical Creators, who are actually violently against these ancient religions honouring the Solar Deity, Planetary and Astral deities! It is quite reliable, all you need to do is to see how they are the same, (all in the same vital doctrines) and how they are different.

Each country will have differnt names, (some hugely different, some quite similar for the personages of their Godheads and deities)

but this is not a problem, since the main attributes are always the same, at the foundation.
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Re: Proof that Jesus IS God and Yahweh Jehovah is false
The God of Babylon is is Marduk.

He is the Son of Enki and the known Adversary of Enlil.


This is why Satan is known as the Adversary because he is Marduk.


The name Marduk means the Young Bull of the Son.


When Moses went up to the mountain to talk to Enlil he received the Tablets of Destiny. Also known as the ME's or Divine Decree's

And when he came down he saw that his people were worshiping an idol of a Golden Calf which they had made.


And this threw him into a fit of rage because the Symbol of the Golden Calf is a Representation of the Adversary of Enlil.

The Golden Calf signifies Marduk the God of Babylon.


Moses was mad at the people he freed from Babyon because they still worshiped this 'false' god and not his god.


That is why he smashed the tablets.
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i got no dog in this fight any longer. religion is BS. PERIOD. but im sure celestial maiden or DGN will be along shortly to challenge your charge that jesus is god and jehova is fake.
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Dogon Dagan DGN will not be challenging it...the one challenging it will not be challenging anyone, either, (Yahushua) but he WILL (according to the manuscripts) but only to deal out the judgment on those who held to this destruction of people, animals, the earth and His Father's Truths!

With fire!

Yes, I know that is 'destructive' but this is in a final good, necessary way. Otherwise, the earth will continue to be polluted, and the people who love to destroy others will continue to live on, in their seed.
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I am glad that you know that the Father is not the same as the son, for that is the most destructive lie and the first one.
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Re: Proof that Jesus IS God and Yahweh Jehovah is false
I tried to type 'Only in the religion of the Solar Deity (also known as Saturnian or Satanic doctrine, is the son called the father, incarnate.'

The Son in Satanism is always his father, incarnate.

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"So the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" - John 8:57

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. - John 8:58

JESUS is The True God. Jesus IS I AM. All others are anti-christs.

Everyone who came before JESUS was a robber and thief, luckily, his TRUE followers did not follow those. Jesus is Salvation (John 10:8-9).


So go to hell motherfucker with your hatred for the Bible.
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"Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:" - Luke 6:37


Just throw it away, do not carry it any more to Sun-Day worship in your temples of destruction.
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Jesus is not Sun-Day worship. Jesus is Life Worship because Jesus is The Bread of Life (John 6:48).





GLP