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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10392967 United States 06/20/2014 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually, the Quran is an apocriphical christian text. Quoting: a 59472521 it has all marks of a gnostic text and even quotes some of them. Muhammad had a christian teacher... so if you tolerate or even worship christian literature, you should relate to the Quran. if you are only interested in spirituality, then the Quran is as interesting as any christian text. if you are not interested in any religion, then why bother reading it at all? so, make up your mind. you cannot see the NT and the Quran as two oposing texts, because they are not, they only seem as such because of the politics and because of the Constantin's reduction of holly christian books... so either you love them both or you hate them both, you cannot choose only one of them, because then you get trapped in the hell of fanaticism... so, it is your choice, but you can only choose both or noone... Ur full of shit !! Mohamed said jesus was not crucified Bible says he was So which is it tard ? Answer the bible is right . The quaran is a lying satanic book which mixes some truth in with many lies |
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Resister User ID: 53474367 United States 06/20/2014 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read the cliff notes. The Complete Infidel's Guide to the Koran [link to www.amazon.com] This was plenty enough for me to know just what a sick twisted evil demonically inspired instruction manual for a cult bent on world domination that the Koran really is. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59337271 United States 06/20/2014 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually, the Quran is an apocriphical christian text. Quoting: a 59472521 it has all marks of a gnostic text and even quotes some of them. Muhammad had a christian teacher... so if you tolerate or even worship christian literature, you should relate to the Quran. if you are only interested in spirituality, then the Quran is as interesting as any christian text. if you are not interested in any religion, then why bother reading it at all? so, make up your mind. you cannot see the NT and the Quran as two oposing texts, because they are not, they only seem as such because of the politics and because of the Constantin's reduction of holly christian books... so either you love them both or you hate them both, you cannot choose only one of them, because then you get trapped in the hell of fanaticism... so, it is your choice, but you can only choose both or noone... Ur full of shit !! Mohamed said jesus was not crucified Bible says he was So which is it tard ? Answer the bible is right . The quaran is a lying satanic book which mixes some truth in with many lies Yes, the Quran also denies that Jesus is the son of God, contradicting the Bible. And here's more: Muhammad vs Jesus Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam. (Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38) Said God loves everyone. (John 3:16) "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52) Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." (John 8:7) Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) "Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18) Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) "Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18) Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901) Neither owned nor traded slaves. Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) Beheaded no one. Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) "If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194) "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50) Was celibate. Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) Did not have sex with children. Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) Never harmed a woman. "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123) "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5) Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq ) Ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence. Killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451) Never took captives. Never killed anyone. Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24) Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women. Demanded captured slaves and a fifth of all other loot taken in war. (Qur'an 8:41) "The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve." (Matthew 20:28) Was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764) Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. "And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39) "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44) Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari 1440) Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28) Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743) Washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5) What are the Greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149) What are the Greatest Commandments? "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40) Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship (Qur'an 4:102) Chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John 18:10-12) Died fat and wealthy from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute. Demanded nothing for himself. Died without possessions. Advocated crucifying others. (Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131) Was crucified himself. According to his followers: Had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413) According to his followers: Gave his life for others. (John 18:11 and elsewhere) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41674550 United States 06/20/2014 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quote:After finishing it the second time, I decided to convert... ...it's pages into rolling papers. They work really well./End Quote Good one OP! I tried to read it straight through at one point and it absolutely revolted me almost threw it out but kept it on a shelf for reference if I needed it. As the years have past I have ended up reviewing it in pieces to completion but its really hard to take. The evil and hatred at some points is just too much. |
Galfeslaf (OP) User ID: 58974470 United States 06/20/2014 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually, the Quran is an apocriphical christian text. Quoting: a 59472521 it has all marks of a gnostic text and even quotes some of them. Muhammad had a christian teacher... so if you tolerate or even worship christian literature, you should relate to the Quran. if you are only interested in spirituality, then the Quran is as interesting as any christian text. if you are not interested in any religion, then why bother reading it at all? so, make up your mind. you cannot see the NT and the Quran as two oposing texts, because they are not, they only seem as such because of the politics and because of the Constantin's reduction of holly christian books... so either you love them both or you hate them both, you cannot choose only one of them, because then you get trapped in the hell of fanaticism... so, it is your choice, but you can only choose both or noone... I'm interested in logic and scriptures that don't contradict themselves or encourage evil. I found that the Qur'an was devoid of logic and full of evil. I'm guessing you have never read the Bible, nor the Qur'an....or you really like Krokodyl and your noggin ain't working too well. Either way, I think we can all disregard anything else you have to say on the matter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222180 United States 06/20/2014 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually, the Quran is an apocriphical christian text. Quoting: a 59472521 it has all marks of a gnostic text and even quotes some of them. Muhammad had a christian teacher... so if you tolerate or even worship christian literature, you should relate to the Quran. if you are only interested in spirituality, then the Quran is as interesting as any christian text. if you are not interested in any religion, then why bother reading it at all? so, make up your mind. you cannot see the NT and the Quran as two oposing texts, because they are not, they only seem as such because of the politics and because of the Constantin's reduction of holly christian books... so either you love them both or you hate them both, you cannot choose only one of them, because then you get trapped in the hell of fanaticism... so, it is your choice, but you can only choose both or noone... Ur full of shit !! Mohamed said jesus was not crucified Bible says he was So which is it tard ? Answer the bible is right . The quaran is a lying satanic book which mixes some truth in with many lies Yes, the Quran also denies that Jesus is the son of God, contradicting the Bible. And here's more: Muhammad vs Jesus Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam. (Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38) Said God loves everyone. (John 3:16) "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52) Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." (John 8:7) Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) "Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18) Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) "Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18) Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901) Neither owned nor traded slaves. Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) Beheaded no one. Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) "If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194) "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50) Was celibate. Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) Did not have sex with children. Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) Never harmed a woman. "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123) "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5) Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq ) Ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence. Killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451) Never took captives. Never killed anyone. Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24) Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women. Demanded captured slaves and a fifth of all other loot taken in war. (Qur'an 8:41) "The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve." (Matthew 20:28) Was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764) Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. "And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39) "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44) Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari 1440) Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28) Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743) Washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5) What are the Greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149) What are the Greatest Commandments? "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40) Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship (Qur'an 4:102) Chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John 18:10-12) Died fat and wealthy from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute. Demanded nothing for himself. Died without possessions. Advocated crucifying others. (Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131) Was crucified himself. According to his followers: Had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413) According to his followers: Gave his life for others. (John 18:11 and elsewhere) Thank you !! |
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Galfeslaf (OP) User ID: 58974470 United States 06/20/2014 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually, the Quran is an apocriphical christian text. Quoting: a 59472521 it has all marks of a gnostic text and even quotes some of them. Muhammad had a christian teacher... so if you tolerate or even worship christian literature, you should relate to the Quran. if you are only interested in spirituality, then the Quran is as interesting as any christian text. if you are not interested in any religion, then why bother reading it at all? so, make up your mind. you cannot see the NT and the Quran as two oposing texts, because they are not, they only seem as such because of the politics and because of the Constantin's reduction of holly christian books... so either you love them both or you hate them both, you cannot choose only one of them, because then you get trapped in the hell of fanaticism... so, it is your choice, but you can only choose both or noone... I'm interested in logic and scriptures that don't contradict themselves or encourage evil. I found that the Qur'an was devoid of logic and full of evil. I'm guessing you have never read the Bible, nor the Qur'an....or you really like Krokodyl and your noggin ain't working too well. Either way, I think we can all disregard anything else you have to say on the matter. what you are saying is called cognitive dissonance. i have just proven to you, that the NT contradicts itself, and with that, i have proven also, that i have read the NT. As i compared it to gnostic literature, it is logical, that i read both, namely the quran and many gnostic gospels and texts. in fact, my knowledge of these matters is superior to yours, for you havent even noticed the paradoxes in the NT, which are, as i said, an essential part of it. so, as it defies your narrow point of view, you decide to ignore me but that you cannot do, because you cannot unthink me. you can only supress the knowledge of me into your subconscious, where it will sooner or later bite you in your fanatic ass Give an example of where the NT contradicts itself. I won't hold my breath. I know you have nothing....except for confusion, lies and assumptions. |
Galfeslaf (OP) User ID: 4446379 United States 06/20/2014 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: a 59472521 what you are saying is called cognitive dissonance. i have just proven to you, that the NT contradicts itself, and with that, i have proven also, that i have read the NT. As i compared it to gnostic literature, it is logical, that i read both, namely the quran and many gnostic gospels and texts. in fact, my knowledge of these matters is superior to yours, for you havent even noticed the paradoxes in the NT, which are, as i said, an essential part of it. so, as it defies your narrow point of view, you decide to ignore me but that you cannot do, because you cannot unthink me. you can only supress the knowledge of me into your subconscious, where it will sooner or later bite you in your fanatic ass Give an example of where the NT contradicts itself. I won't hold my breath. I know you have nothing....except for confusion, lies and assumptions. i already have. you subconscious has already seen it, but you prefer to blind yourself. go back to page one and read it through... Acts 27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. It's clear you don't know what "contradiction" means. |
Galfeslaf (OP) User ID: 4446379 United States 06/20/2014 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: a 59472521 i already have. you subconscious has already seen it, but you prefer to blind yourself. go back to page one and read it through... Acts 27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. It's clear you don't know what "contradiction" means. i know it is not easy for you, but it will get better, I promise. one feels quite relieved, as one shakes off the straightjacket of being brainwashed. Good luck! Make a valid, logical point supported by actual facts to back your claim that there are contradictions in the NT or I will delete all of your posts from this thread. If you can't do this, all I can assume is that you're trolling and shilling for Islam. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30603648 United States 06/21/2014 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read the cliff notes. The Complete Infidel's Guide to the Koran [link to www.amazon.com] Quoting: Resister This was plenty enough for me to know just what a sick twisted evil demonically inspired instruction manual for a cult bent on world domination that the Koran really is. LOL What the hell are you boys reading? It's just boring with no really good stories in it unlike the bible. If Satan was more prominent I'm sure it would be more interesting. |
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nah-T User ID: 39685812 United States 06/21/2014 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm thinking about reading it but I'll have to check it out from the library. I have to ask my husband first though because I don't want him to catch me with it in my hands and him rip it to shreds since it will belong to the library. When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold? No, it's just going to stink more. |
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nah-T User ID: 39685812 United States 06/21/2014 06:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm thinking about reading it but I'll have to check it out from the library. I have to ask my husband first though because I don't want him to catch me with it in my hands and him rip it to shreds since it will belong to the library. Quoting: nah-T what is he scared of you getting bewitched by it? pretty superstitious, i d say.. it s only a book, fer cock's sake! and it has by far not as many dead bodies as the OT, for instance... He burned a bible that someone gave me but after I read it already. It's written in his heart, all the stuff in the bible but he thinks that I go a little crazy and obsessive when I read ancient books. He just hates religion, he thinks it's for bad people that need to be controlled. When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold? No, it's just going to stink more. |
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Azadok61 User ID: 48171460 United States 06/21/2014 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually, the Quran is an apocriphical christian text. Quoting: a 59472521 it has all marks of a gnostic text and even quotes some of them. Muhammad had a christian teacher... so if you tolerate or even worship christian literature, you should relate to the Quran. if you are only interested in spirituality, then the Quran is as interesting as any christian text. if you are not interested in any religion, then why bother reading it at all? so, make up your mind. you cannot see the NT and the Quran as two oposing texts, because they are not, they only seem as such because of the politics and because of the Constantin's reduction of holly christian books... so either you love them both or you hate them both, you cannot choose only one of them, because then you get trapped in the hell of fanaticism... so, it is your choice, but you can only choose both or noone... Wow your reading skills are awesome " you can not see the new testament and Koran as two opposing texts " that is really one of the biggest lies I have heard I awhile ,thekoran is absolutely 100% the antithesis of the bible , the only thing the Koran has in common with the bible is that it fulfills the Antichrists plan laid out in the bible , it , the Koran is of Satan . |
nah-T User ID: 39685812 United States 06/21/2014 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what an asshole. Quoting: a 59472521 i love ancient books, although i m not a partucular fan of either the quran and the bible though, for there are much better and more interesting ancient books, but i would never burn a book, unless it is some valueless modern brainwash material. also, ancient books help people understand different mentalities. i would hate to be an idiot who would know nothing about people in foreign lands and cultures, beign dependant on the mainstream media for being disinformed and brainwashed I can see how most people would think he's an asshole. But he's a righteous asshole. He's not ignorant, he was fighting against the Mujahideen in a Balkan war. He volunteered to fight them while everyone else was hiding and afraid of getting their hands dirty. But then the American's stopped funding them and the war stopped, they almost killed my husband. When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold? No, it's just going to stink more. |