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Saint43 User ID: 18279067 United States 06/21/2014 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? Uh, anytime someone comes back from the dead it's newsworthy. Especially if they are commanded to do so. Last Edited by Saint43 on 06/21/2014 11:42 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59485023 United States 06/21/2014 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? With all the things we've heard about people being thought dead and buried by mistake, it doesn't seem too remarkable that 2000-6000 years ago it could also happen. ---------------- The macabre history of those buried alive ...Probably the most remarkable 20th-century incidence is that of Angelo Hays, from the village of St Quentin de Chalais in France. In 1937, when he was 19 years old, he was thrown from his motorcycle and hit a brick wall head first. Angelo Hays was declared dead and three days after the accident was buried. But in nearby Bordeaux, an insurance firm found that Hay's father had recently insured his son's life for 200,000 francs. An inspector was called to investigate - and demanded to have the body exhumed two days after burial to confirm the exact cause of death. When the doctor in charge of the autopsy removed the shroud, Hays was found to be warm. He was taken to hospital - and after several operations and a long period of rehabilitation recovered completely. His head injury had caused him to slip into deep unconciousness. In 1995, 61-year-old Cambridgeshire farmer's wife Daphne Banks was certified dead by her family doctor after taking a drugs overdose on New Year's Eve. Three hours later, the undertaker loading her into a refrigerated drawer saw a vein twitch and heard her snore. Mrs Banks survived. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 45502011 United States 06/21/2014 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? With all the things we've heard about people being thought dead and buried by mistake, it doesn't seem too remarkable that 2000-6000 years ago it could also happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59485023 ---------------- The macabre history of those buried alive ...Probably the most remarkable 20th-century incidence is that of Angelo Hays, from the village of St Quentin de Chalais in France. In 1937, when he was 19 years old, he was thrown from his motorcycle and hit a brick wall head first. Angelo Hays was declared dead and three days after the accident was buried. But in nearby Bordeaux, an insurance firm found that Hay's father had recently insured his son's life for 200,000 francs. An inspector was called to investigate - and demanded to have the body exhumed two days after burial to confirm the exact cause of death. When the doctor in charge of the autopsy removed the shroud, Hays was found to be warm. He was taken to hospital - and after several operations and a long period of rehabilitation recovered completely. His head injury had caused him to slip into deep unconciousness. In 1995, 61-year-old Cambridgeshire farmer's wife Daphne Banks was certified dead by her family doctor after taking a drugs overdose on New Year's Eve. Three hours later, the undertaker loading her into a refrigerated drawer saw a vein twitch and heard her snore. Mrs Banks survived. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Those are interesting stories, do you think it was God though that resurrected them, or by fluke were they not really dead, only thought to be? |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 45502011 United States 06/21/2014 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? "And when he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice: “Laza·rus, come on out!” 44 The [man] that had been dead came out with his feet and hands bound with wrappings, and his countenance was bound about with a cloth. Jesus said to them: “Loose him and let him go.”- John 11:43,44 Quoting: CelestialMaiden (Of course, this kid probably wished he had NOT been resurrected, only to have to listen to Paul's speech more!) "On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to have a meal, Paul began discoursing to them, as he was going to depart the next day; and he prolonged his speech until midnight. 8 So there were quite a few lamps in the upper chamber where we were gathered together. 9 Seated at the window, a certain young man named Euty·chus fell into a deep sleep while Paul kept talking on, and, collapsing in sleep, he fell down from the third story and was picked up dead. 10 But Paul went downstairs, threw himself upon him and embraced him and said: “STOP raising a clamor, for his soul is in him.” 11 He now went upstairs and began the meal and took food, and after conversing for quite a while, until daybreak, he at length departed. 12 So they took the boy away alive and were comforted beyond measure."- Acts 20:7-12 Last Edited by CelestialMaiden on 06/21/2014 12:18 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58351648 United States 06/21/2014 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? and being our flesh is a temporary vessel....the resurrected do return in a new vessel. Though, the spirit/soul of the person has a lot to do with the growth of the body to form around the spirit/soul. A new body, built by old blueprints. Such is they are the same, but the environment is different and so they will be unique each time they rise. |
DGN User ID: 55398258 United States 06/21/2014 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? and being our flesh is a temporary vessel....the resurrected do return in a new vessel. Quoting: --Voltaic-- Though, the spirit/soul of the person has a lot to do with the growth of the body to form around the spirit/soul. A new body, built by old blueprints. Such is they are the same, but the environment is different and so they will be unique each time they rise. Like new tires rather than retreads? Cool. Last Edited by DGN on 06/21/2014 01:25 PM |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 45502011 United States 06/21/2014 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? I don't think it's a one size fits all type of thing,however in Lazarus's case i am confident. Quoting: Saint43 Zeffirrelli, you cant get close to that going to church! Well, considering that most religions don't teach about the resurrection back to earth in churches........ |
Life and Love User ID: 46807867 United States 06/21/2014 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? "And when he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice: “Laza·rus, come on out!” 44 The [man] that had been dead came out with his feet and hands bound with wrappings, and his countenance was bound about with a cloth. Jesus said to them: “Loose him and let him go.”- John 11:43,44 Quoting: CelestialMaiden As I recall, only one was a resurrection. The rest were resuscitations as they eventually died again. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 45502011 United States 06/21/2014 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? "And when he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice: “Laza·rus, come on out!” 44 The [man] that had been dead came out with his feet and hands bound with wrappings, and his countenance was bound about with a cloth. Jesus said to them: “Loose him and let him go.”- John 11:43,44 Quoting: CelestialMaiden As I recall, only one was a resurrection. The rest were resuscitations as they eventually died again. The word "resurrection" means; "a standing back to life"- so even though they died again, each one was a literal standing back to life |
Life and Love User ID: 46807867 United States 06/21/2014 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? "And when he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice: “Laza·rus, come on out!” 44 The [man] that had been dead came out with his feet and hands bound with wrappings, and his countenance was bound about with a cloth. Jesus said to them: “Loose him and let him go.”- John 11:43,44 Quoting: CelestialMaiden As I recall, only one was a resurrection. The rest were resuscitations as they eventually died again. The word "resurrection" means; "a standing back to life"- so even though they died again, each one was a literal standing back to life (That is not what the word would have meant in Jesus' day. See "The Resurrection of the Son of God" by N.T. Wright for references.) But the interesting thing about the case of Lazarus was that Jesus waited four days before performing the miracle. That was, we think, because the people of the day believed that it was possible for someone to be revived if they had not been dead for three days. (And that also brings to mind why Jesus was in the tomb for "three days and three nights.") We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 45502011 United States 06/21/2014 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? "And when he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice: “Laza·rus, come on out!” 44 The [man] that had been dead came out with his feet and hands bound with wrappings, and his countenance was bound about with a cloth. Jesus said to them: “Loose him and let him go.”- John 11:43,44 Quoting: CelestialMaiden As I recall, only one was a resurrection. The rest were resuscitations as they eventually died again. The word "resurrection" means; "a standing back to life"- so even though they died again, each one was a literal standing back to life (That is not what the word would have meant in Jesus' day. See "The Resurrection of the Son of God" by N.T. Wright for references.) But the interesting thing about the case of Lazarus was that Jesus waited four days before performing the miracle. That was, we think, because the people of the day believed that it was possible for someone to be revived if they had not been dead for three days. (And that also brings to mind why Jesus was in the tomb for "three days and three nights.") Yes, he waited, he could have prevented the death altogether, but allowing the body to begin to decay drove home more powerfully, that death has no permanent victory over Christ power "Consequently when Jesus arrived, he found he had already been four days in the memorial tomb. 18 Now Beth′a·ny was near Jerusalem at a distance of about two miles. 19 Accordingly many of the Jews had come to Martha and Mary in order to console them concerning their brother. 20 Therefore Martha, when she heard that Jesus was coming, met him; but Mary kept sitting at home. 21 Martha therefore said to Jesus: “Lord, if you had been here my brother would not have died. "- John 11:17-21 |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 45502011 United States 06/21/2014 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? These were physical resurrections by the way NOT to the new body (as Jesus was). "No man has seen God at any time only He who came down from above...". Quoting: anonymous 59502414 Right, Christ was resurrected to Heaven with a spirit body, those resurrected to earth with be flesh, though without the imperfection and sickness they once had |
DGN User ID: 55398258 United States 06/21/2014 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? "And when he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice: “Laza·rus, come on out!” 44 The [man] that had been dead came out with his feet and hands bound with wrappings, and his countenance was bound about with a cloth. Jesus said to them: “Loose him and let him go.”- John 11:43,44 Quoting: CelestialMaiden BillyBob her y'all wif a quiston fer cm. Does it say anyfing in da good book bout the lord resurrecting a tortus? i jus wonder cuz i caint qwite envision tortuses strollin around in heaven tripping peeple moon-walking bakwards an blind guys ya no? i ask cuz i got a kuple a hunerd of em her on ma tortus racing ranch an wen one diez i put em out back round ma duck pond cus they look like kustom geodesic dome rocks kinda klassez up da place ya no? |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 45502011 United States 06/21/2014 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? what about the horde of people that were resurrected with Jesus? No one even knows their names or what became of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30474188 The earthly resurrection is yet future, when Christ died, he was the first to be resurrected to heaven, there were no others resurrected at that time with him- |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 45502011 United States 06/21/2014 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? "And when he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice: “Laza·rus, come on out!” 44 The [man] that had been dead came out with his feet and hands bound with wrappings, and his countenance was bound about with a cloth. Jesus said to them: “Loose him and let him go.”- John 11:43,44 Quoting: CelestialMaiden BillyBob her y'all wif a quiston fer cm. Does it say anyfing in da good book bout the lord resurrecting a tortus? i jus wonder cuz i caint qwite envision tortuses strollin around in heaven tripping peeple moon-walking bakwards an blind guys ya no? i ask cuz i got a kuple a hunerd of em her on ma tortus racing ranch an wen one diez i put em out back round ma duck pond cus they look like kustom geodesic dome rocks kinda klassez up da place ya no? Sorry Billy Bob, your going to have to keep your dead tortoises as pond decorations, because there is no resurrection for animals, God love ya for asking though |
DGN User ID: 55398258 United States 06/21/2014 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If the nine resurrections recorded in the Bible had not been recorded, would people be as likely to believe such a miracle could occur? "And when he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice: “Laza·rus, come on out!” 44 The [man] that had been dead came out with his feet and hands bound with wrappings, and his countenance was bound about with a cloth. Jesus said to them: “Loose him and let him go.”- John 11:43,44 Quoting: CelestialMaiden BillyBob her y'all wif a quiston fer cm. Does it say anyfing in da good book bout the lord resurrecting a tortus? i jus wonder cuz i caint qwite envision tortuses strollin around in heaven tripping peeple moon-walking bakwards an blind guys ya no? i ask cuz i got a kuple a hunerd of em her on ma tortus racing ranch an wen one diez i put em out back round ma duck pond cus they look like kustom geodesic dome rocks kinda klassez up da place ya no? Sorry Billy Bob, your going to have to keep your dead tortoises as pond decorations, because there is no resurrection for animals, God love ya for asking though CM do me a faver, don never post no stinkin video like dat one again. I kep wachin it waitin fer sumfin exsitin to happen until i started gettin hipnotized an almost fell asleep and smacked ma hansum face down on da desk. |
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