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Using the Internet to Erase History, Not Good!

 
Heavenly Alchemy
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Less than 50%:


The day Google opened its online submission process to comply with the European “right to be forgotten” ruling, the company received 12,000 requests – one every seven seconds – from users demanding that information be pulled from search results.

The cost of ignoring those requests, or getting them “wrong” in the eyes of the EU courts? Google could face fines of a billion dollars per incident. In the European Union, the process of whitewashing history is underway.

With the ruling, the court is forcing Google to perform the impossible balancing act between the newly invented “right” be forgotten and the Internet’s unique power to preserve, contextualize, and disseminate information.

Read more: [link to thehill.com]


So much makes sense now. Doesn't it?

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Well lefty academia has been revising USA history for the last 15-20 years so now it's Google turn...

...but they get paid for it.
Fear God and Dread Nought.
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Well lefty academia has been revising USA history for the last 15-20 years so now it's Google turn...

...but they get paid for it.
 Quoting: CMcC


Too true.

Just jumping off your post:

Funny, just looking through the US removal requests and in the last month there have been over 26 million pages requested for removal, repeat: in the last month here in the US...do you think there are really that many copyright violations? In the last month?

Not likely.

[link to www.google.com]


Ummm...people are moaning about 10s of thousands of requests for removal in the UK. When we zombie with over 10s of millions...in one month.

Come on guys give a care.

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Just ran a personal test and here are the results:

Using the search terms:

Google censoring search results America


Nothing really relevant came up after the 2010 government censoring issue was in the news.

This was using Google. The next 20 search engines tried all came up with the same exact results as Google.

Guess why? They, like 99% of the search engines out there, are powered by...Google. Finally one came up with interesting results.
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"Did Google censor search results for a key Nest rival?"

Forget net neutrality — do we need search neutrality as well? Pando reports that home automation company Vivint found itself mysteriously removed from Google search results this past winter just two weeks after the search giant officially announced its acquisition of rival home automation company Nest.

Although Vivint is now appearing again in related searches, the company says it never got a clear explanation for why it was removed or why it took Google four months to restore its status.

[link to bgr.com]
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blinkerrose Actually to a degree I'm in favour of it. One thing that particularly pisses me off is the million or more mug shots of everyone who has ever been arrested in the USA.

People convicted of serious crimes is one thing. But someone arrested for being drunk. Or even worse someone arrested for no good reason and never even charged. Why should they have their lives blighted.

Or the kid who posted some dumb photo. Or the person who got slandered by someone in an argument. They should all be able to have stuff taken down.
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 Quoting: DREAM MAKER


hf

Thank you for caring about this.
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Treason to Google is loyalty to humanity
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blinkerrose Actually to a degree I'm in favour of it. One thing that particularly pisses me off is the million or more mug shots of everyone who has ever been arrested in the USA.

People convicted of serious crimes is one thing. But someone arrested for being drunk. Or even worse someone arrested for no good reason and never even charged. Why should they have their lives blighted.

Or the kid who posted some dumb photo. Or the person who got slandered by someone in an argument. They should all be able to have stuff taken down.
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I hear what you are saying, but you wouldn't come up with that type of result unless you were looking for it. If a regular Joe has been slandered and it is proven the slanderous information should be removed, if the person wishes. By court order after proving something is not true.

But what has been happening is companies and business leaders, etc, have important information deleated, like this:

(Less than 50%)

[link to www.cnet.com]

The removal of a BBC article from Google's search results in Europe has prompted the broadcaster to express its worries over the implications of stories vanishing from the search giant's system -- but experts say online life in the wake of the "right to the forgotten" ruling is only going to get trickier.

BBC economics editor Robert Peston reports that on 2 July, Google informed the BBC that a blog post from 2007 titled "Merill's Mess" would be removed from search results conducted using European versions of Google. The removal is required of Google following a May ruling by the European Union Court of Justice that said individuals could ask Google to change...


Peston suggested that, as the only person mentioned in his 2007 blog post, former banking boss Stan O'Neal may have been the one to request the removal.

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Well lefty academia has been revising USA history for the last 15-20 years so now it's Google turn...

...but they get paid for it.
 Quoting: CMcC


or correcting the revisions made by conservatives previously
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I hear what you are saying, but you wouldn't come up with that type of result unless you were looking for it. If a regular Joe has been slandered and it is proven the slanderous information should be removed, if the person wishes. By court order after proving something is not true.

 Quoting: Heavenly Alchemy


kitty That's easier said than done for someone on minimum wage, not to mention that it's a never ending hassle. Don't forget that a lot of this stuff is on several sites.

But I agree that news stories are a different category.

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I hear what you are saying, but you wouldn't come up with that type of result unless you were looking for it. If a regular Joe has been slandered and it is proven the slanderous information should be removed, if the person wishes. By court order after proving something is not true.

 Quoting: Heavenly Alchemy


kitty That's easier said than done for someone on minimum wage, not to mention that it's a never ending hassle. Don't forget that a lot of this stuff is on several sites.

But I agree that news stories are a different category.
 Quoting: Judethz


True, but in that instance anyone could have anything that was unflattering removed. Which isn't right, most of us have blind spots about facets of our personality, and everything is subjective.

So unless it is that John had his hand in the cookie jar when John was never near the cookie jar and Jane along with Joe could back that up then, in my opinion only(not right or wrong), the information should be searchable.

Thinking about it, if someone had a mugshot or had to go to court there would be a ruling and that could be used to remove the information from the website as well.
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Well lefty academia has been revising USA history for the last 15-20 years so now it's Google turn...

...but they get paid for it.
 Quoting: CMcC


or correcting the revisions made by conservatives previously
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The Victor writes the story. That is true through the ages. The truth is usually in the middle of it all. Between the lines.

We need true wise people to honestly share the moments.To find the kernels of truth from it all.

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Not to get sidelined from the important piece, which is that information is being kept away from you. Not super secret information either. Just regular everyday things that YOU might want to know.

But you know what? Because another doesn't like one eyed one horned flying purple people eaters, or what ever floats your boat...you can't find the best information on your widget, and if you have a page on it, others can't find your page.

Not good.

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Treason to Google is loyalty to humanity
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bump

For the morning/afternoon readers.
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True, but in that instance anyone could have anything that was unflattering removed. Which isn't right, most of us have blind spots about facets of our personality, and everything is subjective.

Thinking about it, if someone had a mugshot or had to go to court there would be a ruling and that could be used to remove the information from the website as well.
 Quoting: Heavenly Alchemy


kitty Except as I said for items of genuine public interest, you have no particular right to know about unflattering incidents in my private life. That's just a modern trend made possible by the internet over the last 20 years or so. So all this law is doing is righting a modern wrong.

Like I said previously what about the guy or gal on minimum wage. Everything to do with the courts costs time and money. In effect that is denying justice to the poor.
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Places in the National Forests are being erased from Google maps. They used to be there, and now they are not. At least in the NW US forests.
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Orwell was only slightly off with his 'memory holes'. Nothing will need to be reprinted after it has been changed. It'll all appear right on your screen just the way you're meant to see it...
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this 'right to be forgotton' is a British thing

reason why they only use a living image on their currency





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