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Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6

 
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Is there any possibility that "Fuku" (seriously?) is a hoax?

burnit
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Or maybe all these radiationtards don't know the first thing about radiation.
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Tell that to the dentist when he puts the lead bib on you to take a little x-ray, dumbass!
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:nn14:
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Please read thread " you are being murdered" posted today
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Why can't they treat the released sea water coolants with reverse osmosis?

Reverse osmosis has been identified by EPA as a “best available technology” (BAT) and Small System Compliance Technology (SSCT) for uranium, radium, gross alpha, and beta particles and photon emitters. It can remove up to 99 percent of these radionuclides, as well as many other contaminants (e.g., arsenic, nitrate, and microbial contaminants). Reverse osmosis units can be automated and compact making them appropriate for small systems.

[link to www.epa.gov]
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R.O is great,slow,and expensive; you are forcing water through a permeable membrane under very high pressure.Then you have to dispose of the concentrated contaminated membrane anyway..
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Just sent Chugaikian and Citizenperth link to this thread.
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Just sent Chugaikian and Citizenperth link to this thread.
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Direct trans from Asahi:

TEPCO the 6th, the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Unit 5 spent fuel has announced that it has stopped the cooling of the pools that store. Cooling water because the water leak is found from the pipe to capture the cool sea water.

 10 at around 11 am on the 6th, the reactor building of TEPCO employees patrolling water from leaking from a pipe in the found. Had leaked that auxiliary cooling seawater system, it was piping system to capture the seawater to cool the turbines and pumps. Of water leaking radioactive material concentration of low, TEPCO is expected to seawater. There was no leak in the patrol at the time of the morning the day before.

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May also be affecting other pools, trying to get more info. Trans is hard to sort out.
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Good find RadChick!
we definitely need more eyes looking for information on this, monitoring the airwaves 24/7/365.
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Just sent Chugaikian and Citizenperth link to this thread.
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Thanks Mountain Woman.
hf
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ALERT:


[link to voiceofrussia.com]

Fukushima nuclear plant operator TEPCO reports that the coolant system of the fifth reactor was shut down due to a water leak. The system was halted after a leak near one of the valves was detected, according to the company’s press release
Read more: [link to voiceofrussia.com]
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[SNIP]
Currently the biggest problems the plant’s personnel are facing are the accumulation of radioactive water and its storage. About 440,000 tons of highly radioactive water is currently being stored in underground tanks and cisterns. The amount of contaminated water underground is increasing by 400 tons per day due to the groundwater flowing in from the higher ground.
Starting this April TEPCO initiated an experiment to freeze 11,000 tons of radioactive water that accumulated in the plant’s underground tunnels, to prevent it from its leakage into the soil and, finally, into the sea. However, due to some particular characteristics of the tunnels some of the water could not be frozen.
Read more: [link to voiceofrussia.com]
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Thx for the heads up!
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Please read thread " you are being murdered" posted today
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Yes we are!
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Just up got a call.... lol...

This from Mochizuki
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

It's a confirm from the Tepco documents linked at site

TEPCO say they have a 9 day margin to get it sorted.... but then when are they known to tell the truth?

more as it comes in.....
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Just push Fuku into the ocean or nuke the facility so we don't have to worry about it anymore
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Just up got a call.... lol...

This from Mochizuki
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

It's a confirm from the Tepco documents linked at site

TEPCO say they have a 9 day margin to get it sorted.... but then when are they known to tell the truth?

more as it comes in.....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Thanks so much!
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snip

"However, it is not clear how they are going to fix the leaking point. Tepco hasn’t announced their next measures after the 10th day."
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Translated (google) Tepco release, as they have not supplied an english document



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Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 5 fill machine with cooling seawater system to stop ni u Spent Fuel Pool Cooling Full stop of Nippon te
Heisei 26 years July 6
Tokyo Electric Power Co.

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July 6 afternoon 0:00 Now Full Spent fuel pool water Full temperature は 23 ℃ で, cooling stops ni okeru temperature rise は a time thou ta ri 0.193 ℃ と na ri, Restraints on Full Under operation value 65 ℃ を super え ru ma で ni は approximately 9 day Full margin But thou ri ma す.

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※ Reactor Turbine や で su ru cooling using cold water を や す ta sea rather Full
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Just up got a call.... lol...

This from Mochizuki
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

It's a confirm from the Tepco documents linked at site

TEPCO say they have a 9 day margin to get it sorted.... but then when are they known to tell the truth?

more as it comes in.....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Thanks so much!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman

___________________________________
The pool temperature was 23℃ when suspended. Tepco states they still have 9 days until it reaches the safety limit of 65℃.

However, it is not clear how they are going to fix the leaking point. Tepco hasn’t announced their next measures __________________after the 10th day._____________________

Does the above mean that if they do not have the leak fixed by the 16th of July, there will be a meltdown of #5?
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Just up got a call.... lol...

This from Mochizuki
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

It's a confirm from the Tepco documents linked at site

TEPCO say they have a 9 day margin to get it sorted.... but then when are they known to tell the truth?

more as it comes in.....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Thanks so much!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman

___________________________________
The pool temperature was 23℃ when suspended. Tepco states they still have 9 days until it reaches the safety limit of 65℃.

However, it is not clear how they are going to fix the leaking point. Tepco hasn’t announced their next measures __________________after the 10th day._____________________

Does the above mean that if they do not have the leak fixed by the 16th of July, there will be a meltdown of #5?
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


that is a real possibility, not to mention, as we have seen drying irradiated claddings produce hydrogen... hence the hydrogen explosions.. hence they can say it wasn't nuclear... per say....
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Just up got a call.... lol...

This from Mochizuki
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

It's a confirm from the Tepco documents linked at site

TEPCO say they have a 9 day margin to get it sorted.... but then when are they known to tell the truth?

more as it comes in.....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Thanks so much!
 Quoting: Mountain Woman

___________________________________
The pool temperature was 23℃ when suspended. Tepco states they still have 9 days until it reaches the safety limit of 65℃.

However, it is not clear how they are going to fix the leaking point. Tepco hasn’t announced their next measures __________________after the 10th day._____________________

Does the above mean that if they do not have the leak fixed by the 16th of July, there will be a meltdown of #5?
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


that is a real possibility, not to mention, as we have seen drying irradiated claddings produce hydrogen... hence the hydrogen explosions.. hence they can say it wasn't nuclear... per say....
 Quoting: Citizenperth

Got it. Thanks, dear man.
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Just in time for Super typhoon Neoguri headed that way. Cat 4 now but expected to get much stronger.
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Just in time for Super typhoon Neoguri headed that way. Cat 4 now but expected to get much stronger.

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been watching that as well...
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Just sent Chugaikian and Citizenperth link to this thread.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Thanks Mountain Woman.
hf
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So welcome, dear man.
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Just in time for Super typhoon Neoguri headed that way. Cat 4 now but expected to get much stronger.

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been watching that as well...
 Quoting: Citizenperth


If the eyewall of a storm rivaling Typhoon Haiyan got anywhere near Fuku, it could render Japan uninhabitable.
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Just in time for Super typhoon Neoguri headed that way. Cat 4 now but expected to get much stronger.

 Quoting: Intruth


been watching that as well...
 Quoting: Citizenperth


If the eyewall of a storm rivaling Typhoon Haiyan got anywhere near Fuku, it could render Japan uninhabitable.
 Quoting: Intruth


sad truth is they have had a few near-misses already and always will report no damage... sad thing?... they have wild natural disasters ALL THE TIME......
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From this, it looks like it will weaken to cat 1 by the time it gets to Fuku
[link to www.weather.com]

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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
OK MUCH THANKS TO MY FRIEND PAUL FOR QUICK TRANSLATION

It was announced on July 6, is the follow-up on the cooling stop of the spent fuel pool due to the Unit 5 auxiliary cooling seawater system stop.

After that, it was confirmed leakage situation, and it was confirmed that the valve body of the flow rate adjustment you have installed in the auxiliary cooling seawater system outlet pipe, hole of about 3mm diameter is open one place.

Future, I will consider the repair method of the relevant section.

Moreover, when it was confirmed leakage situation of seawater of Unit 5 reactor building, from situations such as the following, we estimated a total of about 1,310 liters leakage amount.
-1st floor reactor building: about 2m × 3m × about about 5mm depth (about 30 liters)
,the reactor building basement medium: about 10m × 8m × about about 10mm depth (about 800 liters)
,the reactor building basement Floor: about 10m × 3m × about about 1mm depth (about 30 liters)
,the reactor building basement: / 2 (about 450 ripple (about 50mm depth about about 6m × 3m ×)
;torr)
water accumulated where there are set to 1/2 for the triangle. In addition, the spent fuel pool water temperature is 23C at 3 pm, and to more than limit driving on (65 ℃), the margin of about 9 days I have a.  In the future, the fact that while looking at the spent fuel pool water temperature, switch back and forth emergency heat load operation cooling operation and (core cooling) and (spent fuel pool cooling) reactor shutdown due to the residual heat removal system, as required I am going to perform the cooling of the spent fuel pool accordingly.

Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 07/06/2014 11:38 AM
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Soooooooooo ... if the sea water pumps have failed, how the hell is this the primary loop getting cooled? How the hell do they have NINE days? Nine days for the pool to boil down to the racks?

Are they going to pull pumps off 1 thru 4 and just overflow the pool letting the heavy water run into the basement? Or perhaps pump it out and into the ocean as well??

OMG ... this just keeps getting worse by the day, month, and year.

abomb
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OK MUCH THANKS TO MY FRIEND PAUL FOR QUICK TRANSLATION

It was announced on July 6, is the follow-up on the cooling stop of the spent fuel pool due to the Unit 5 auxiliary cooling seawater system stop.

After that, it was confirmed leakage situation, and it was confirmed that the valve body of the flow rate adjustment you have installed in the auxiliary cooling seawater system outlet pipe, hole of about 3mm diameter is open one place.

Future, I will consider the repair method of the relevant section.

Moreover, when it was confirmed leakage situation of seawater of Unit 5 reactor building, from situations such as the following, we estimated a total of about 1,310 liters leakage amount.
-1st floor reactor building: about 2m × 3m × about about 5mm depth (about 30 liters)
,the reactor building basement medium: about 10m × 8m × about about 10mm depth (about 800 liters)
,the reactor building basement Floor: about 10m × 3m × about about 1mm depth (about 30 liters)
,the reactor building basement: / 2 (about 450 ripple (about 50mm depth about about 6m × 3m ×)
;torr)
water accumulated where there are set to 1/2 for the triangle. In addition, the spent fuel pool water temperature is 23C at 3 pm, and to more than limit driving on (65 ℃), the margin of about 9 days I have a.  In the future, the fact that while looking at the spent fuel pool water temperature, switch back and forth emergency heat load operation cooling operation and (core cooling) and (spent fuel pool cooling) reactor shutdown due to the residual heat removal system, as required I am going to perform the cooling of the spent fuel pool accordingly.
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Thanks, CP, and thanks to Paul, too.
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
Soooooooooo ... if the sea water pumps have failed, how the hell is this the primary loop getting cooled? How the hell do they have NINE days? Nine days for the pool to boil down to the racks?

Are they going to pull pumps off 1 thru 4 and just overflow the pool letting the heavy water run into the basement? Or perhaps pump it out and into the ocean as well??

OMG ... this just keeps getting worse by the day, month, and year.

abomb
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51858751


No end in sight.
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Re: Fuku: Cooling stopped at reactor #5 sfp July6
It's been 3 years now. If Fukushima was really the end of the world, we'd see more evidence by now. I think there's a bunch of wishful doomdayers on here.
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It's been 3 years now. If Fukushima was really the end of the world, we'd see more evidence by now. I think there's a bunch of wishful doomdayers on here.
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sadly, it's comments like that, that keep the news down..

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