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America Has a bigger prison population than Totalitarian China With Over A Billion People

 
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America has more blacks

End of debate
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this.....this......this.....
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Black people do not commit more crime than whites. The rates of criminality of white and black are about the same. Racist white supremacist fools.
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China has two intimidation factors. Cameras everywhere and harsh prison sentences. US has laughable prison sentences for violent crimes and harsh prison sentences for light crimes. I have seen people only get 3 years for killing while they get 20 years for a white collar crime. The white collar crime is the threat to the financial system so the harsh prison sentence. Meanwhile, criminals terrorize the native population with little to no punishment. Change it to the other way around and you will have much more of an impact on crime. Those who commit violent crimes should receive a mandatory 20 year sentence while those who commit white collar crimes should receive 3 year sentences but be put on parole for the rest of their lives. Any transgression in parole should result in an additional 3 year sentence for the white collar crime. Any additional transgressions in parole for violent crimes should result in injunctive punishment: chemical castration for sex crimes, mandatory tranquilizers with drug screening for violent criminals, and long term rehab (incarcerated until cured) for drug users and mentally ill.
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Black people do not commit more crime than whites. The rates of criminality of white and black are about the same. Racist white supremacist fools.
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tyrone1

The black crime rate is 10x the white rate.
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Em18966, what you wrote is pure nonsense, wake up. Or do some travelling and see the world.
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The countries with the most wealth disparity have the most criminals. When the economy really improves (not by statistics), studies show crime always drops. On the other hand, when jobs are lost, crime increases. By the way, the prison population composition shows an equal share of criminals are black and white. It also shows an unequal treatment of blacks that tend to be sentenced to death or longer prison sentences versus whites that tend to be sentenced to life in prison or short prison sentences with parole. And yes, Hispanics are treated as white in the prison system. Short prison sentences with parole.
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The Chinese have a harsher death penalty rate so they have less criminals
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Not only that, they also take away the criminal's organs for transplanting...while they're alive.
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leads the world in the most incarcerated per capita
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Drug war
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They privatized the prison system. I remember reading something about a judge who got into trouble for sending kids to a certain juvenile facility and the intimation was he was getting kickbacks for every referral.
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That is because we definitely have more crime than in China. That said, far too many crimes here are never solved and if they are, the plea bargaining is outrageous.

One of the reasons the Communist party has not banned Confuscius is because of his teachings on obedience to the law and one's masters. Thus, the culure is one of obedience even if to a tyrannical state.

However, a bigger reason is because in China one is presumed guilty from the start and the justice is swift and sure.

Death sentences are carried out within a short period of time after sentencing, unlike in the USA where the appeals can drag on endlessly for decades. Certainly, those charged with a crime should have rights and a fair trials but the endlessness of the appeals is going too far. Perhaps appeals should be limited to just two. It is a thought.

Another is that they have no problem with using their military against their own citizens and have no problem with their shoot to kill policy.

Same for the police.

In other words, criminals in China have very few of the rights that ours do and the do not go to prison because they are dead if caught in the act.

Then there is the little matter of how many of those thrown into their political slave labor camps who never make it out alive.

One has to question just what is their prison death rate compared to ours.
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I am still wondering why you slaves think 'merica is 'so great' compared to countries like Canada.
 Quoting: PERMABANNED


There are like 5 people in Canada.

And 3 of them are from India.

And the reason that America is so great compared to other countries is that even though we have a shit-ton of people in prison, those people in prison are living in more luxury than most of the people on the planet.

Even the worst treated of our citizens are better off than most of the people on the planet, and THAT'S a fact.

We might have problems, but it doesn't mean we're not still the best and that people from all over the world aren't still willing to risk everything they have, including their lives, to come here.

Our problems are fixable, dude - we're working on them.

As much as I bitch about some of the shit that goes on here, I fully recognize and respect that I am lucky as fuck to have been born in a nation that allows me the right to complain about what I think is wrong and which has allowed me to become educated enough to know the difference.

Don't shit yourself, we might not do everything right all the time for every person, but people in America have a better chance of living to their full potential than they do virtually anywhere else in the world.
 Quoting: Em18966


Your first post made me depressed for a second, but this brought me back up. I'm glad to have been born here at this time. I wish I knew of a peaceful way out.

I thought we were fucked many years ago, and now it's worse. What's gonna happen???




I had no idea we had more prisoners than China. I know a handful of people that were in the system growing up, it's hell. I was on probation before turning 18, it was a joke.

My one friend growing up constantly got out because he spent money on a good lawyer.

My step father is a CO, he says don't get a public defender and he's right. It's fucking sickening. I could never work at a prison.

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Em18966, what you wrote is pure nonsense, wake up. Or do some travelling and see the world.
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According to all my cousins who do missionary work, the entire rest of the world is exactly like rural South Carolina. Except France, which is like France.
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China prefers to put a bullet in someones head shortly after they're convicted.....and then charge the perp's family for the bullet.
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Yep...THIS
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Private prisons need inmates. It's big business.

It's really that simple.
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China has less giNgers and spix.
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Isn't it like $250 a day per[] the state has to pay to privatized prisons ?
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I have stock in prisons as long as they are housed I make money
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It's a money making scheme. Not "justice". We all know that. Private prison contracts.
 Quoting: Chip


The telephone calling system is a rackeo you never here about a girl I know was and and besides twinkies and oatmeal cakes being like 1.25 apiece try making a phone call, besides taking forever they charge upwards of 5.00 a minute.

The whole prison system is just another money makin out of control, corrupt machine2.

I know someone that had a few DWI's and has to go in for 2 years, in the end he came out angry, worse problem now than before and while he was in the demented twisted mentally retarded homo acting males mostly black decided to use his anus as they wished and there was not 1 chance of getting help from anyone, the guards laugh and look the other way.

You know people can make jokes about that all the time but when you hear of the truths and if you laugh again then you deserve to be a cellmate with 1 of those out of control should of been exterminated a long time ago worthless humans.

In Illinois State Prison and others the gang leaders have cellphones, drugs and women in prison and they send orders to their "Hood"...As the guards are paid of and look the other way or their families are threatened.
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Many of the those guys and gals are in prison...all because of a plant that the government considers "illegal".

How fucking retarded is that?
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I have stock in prisons as long as they are housed I make money
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And you also screw over the tax payers because our tax dollars fund prisons.

Fuck you, fuck your mom, and go eat a bag dicks you sad sack of sorry shit!
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Being a Socialist country, The Government runs the prisons. No corporation can buy a prison and make a profit. We are very lenient towards the Accused. Color race religion has no place in any verdict.

The sentences are short compared to the US. Our crime is average. A bad apple every now and then. No guilt here for Canada penal system.
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The Chinese have a harsher death penalty rate so they have less criminals
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They also have what they call "admistrative detention" which means that the local cops can send you away for a couple of years without the bother of any trial. They called it Re-education Through Labor but it was so despised by the people and criticised by the international community that they put a stop to it in 2013. These RTL facilities were the labor camps.

So what they did was change the sign on the door and call it "drug rehabilitation center" which made little difference, as addicts were sent to labor camps along with everybody else to begin with. They also set up a lot of "legal education centers" which is a nice name for brainwashing centers. On the word of the cops, you might gt a show trial, and then get sent to brainwashing.

They have another one for sex-workers, and another one for juveniles.

Only those who commit crimes like robbery, murder, or political prisoners like dissidents and human rights lawyers, Falun Gong practitioners, and some Christians get sent to prison.

That is why they have a lower prison populations, they have a second system going too.

This is widely used for petty crimes
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Evidence that we have a total police state.
 Quoting: Chip


This.

And people have not just let it happen, they have demanded it.

They have allowed themselves to believe that it is somehow justice that a person convicted of a non-violent offense spends the rest of their life in prison.


They demand more and more arbitrary legislation, laws to regulate virtually every aspect of our lives, and severe punishments for non-conformity.

Not only that, but they believe that once someone has been ACCUSED of a crime (a crime that could be as petty as talking back to a cop or not cutting ones grass to the appropriate length or refusing to allow a government entity to install a radiation-emitting smart meter in your home) that they are DESERVING of whatever treatment the police decide to mete out.

There is no more innocent until proven guilty.

If you are ACCUSED of a crime, you are suddenly to be treated as a sub-human being. Like a piece of chattel or worse.

Cops, who were NEVER supposed to have the authority to mete out punishment, are killing people in their own homes without even charging them with a crime, they are killing American citizens on the streets for saying the wrong thing in the wrong tone of voice or for legally carrying weapons that the cops deem threatening. They are killing people's pets because they offer citizens protection.

And what's worse, 90% of American's believe that this is just FINE, that it's OK, because these are the police, they wouldn't do anything that wasn't for the public's own good, right?

If you are unlucky enough to be CONVICTED of a felony, you're pretty much fucked. The populous now believes you are a piece of human refuse, no longer deserving of basic, fundamental human rights, even though nowhere in our Constitution does it say that our American rights can be terminated by the ruling of a criminal court judge.

Then, you are thrown into the prison system, where you are at the mercy of corrupt guards and prison financiers, made to work for pennies an hour while the corrupt people at the top turn a tidy profit. And if you refuse, you will be beaten, starved, thrown in solitary confinement or worse.

And if you complain, nobody will believe you or care, because you are nothing but a criminal, deserving of no consideration or human compassion. Certainly, your word will NEVER be believed above that of a corrections officer.

This is their ultimate goal. To have the good little conformists on the outside, and those who refuse to toe the line be used as slaves on the inside of one prison or another.

They call it justice, but it's really nothing more than a modern institution of human slavery. And as the crimes that people are imprisoned for become more petty and as the general populous becomes more ignorant of their rights, the system will only get bigger and less humane.
 Quoting: Em18966


Excellent post!
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makes you wonder if its the prison US industrial complex inviting in the "illegals" ...

When I was in a cali jail for for an over exaggerated amount of time with some over exaggerated handling ... I got thrown through the machine to see in the inner mechanics ... I should have been out first thing the next day , instead it was the beginning of a week long with internment , camping out in these severely over-crowded cells with 95% mexican , meaning I was the only white dude most of the time with 49 mexicans approx. I thought I was going to die at certain points... not from mexicans but from the lack of air / suffocation from being so overcrowded.

Needless to say hell almost froze over.

(I was telling them to get out of this chicken factory USA and go enjoy paradise and freedom in Mexico ... I was saying that all they had to do was to collectively agree to be good and paradise was theirs)
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I have stock in prisons as long as they are housed I make money
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You are part of the problem.

:bagofdicks:
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Iam sorry having a little fun you took the bait.:-D
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I am still wondering why you slaves think 'merica is 'so great' compared to countries like Canada.
 Quoting: PERMABANNED


Because you faggots eat balls.
 Quoting: Chip


Wow. That doesn't even make sense. Lol shit hole country run by a Muslim. Bahahha good job retards.
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isn't prison government housing for black criminals?
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Two problems

1)Multiculturalism
2)Blacks
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[link to blog.foreignpolicy.com]



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Happy Fourth of July, Incarceration Nation!
BY HANNA KOZLOWSKA JULY 3, 2014 - 10:22 PM


Today many Americans are flipping burgers, knocking back beer, and setting off fireworks to celebrate their country's most trumpeted value: freedom. But a disproportionate part of the population will be denied that privilege, locked up in overcrowded prisons and jails, thousands without the hope of ever attending another cookout.
Many American prisoners are locked up for good reason, but no other nation jails so many people for so long. Among countries with the world's largest prison populations, the United States leads with 2.2 million behind bars. And the countries that immediately trail the global champion of freedom are either much larger or terrible human rights offenders. China comes in second, Russia third.

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 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


China kills their felons on a large scale. No need to house them.