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America Has a bigger prison population than Totalitarian China With Over A Billion People

 
Seerose

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Tell us, mr expert op, how many people are executed in China each year.
 Quoting: Wookiee666


Execution statistics for China are considered a state secret, and therefore they do not publish the number.

However:

China executed more people than any other country last year. Although Chinese authorities treat official execution statistics as a state secret, Amnesty International estimates thousands are killed under the death penalty every year, more than the rest of the world combined.
[link to www.cnn.com]

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This does not include political prisoners and prisoners of conscience who were executed by way of organ harvesting. According to several credible sources and reports, most of these are Falun Gong practitioners and secondly, Uyghur Muslims from Xinjiang. There are some Christians.

Bloody Harvest:
The killing of Falun Gong for their organs...

"Bloody Harvest" reveals the shocking truths David Matas and David Kilgour uncovered when they investigated allegations that the Chinese government is persecuting and killing Falun Gong practitioners.
[link to bloodyharvest.info]

Both authors have prestigious careers and excellent international reputations.
[link to bloodyharvest.info]

Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting (DAFOH) aims to provide the medical community and society with objective findings of unethical and illegal organ harvesting. Organ harvesting, the removal of organs from a donor, without obtaining prior free and voluntary consent, is considered a crime against humanity, as well as a threat to medical science in general.
[link to www.dafoh.org]

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The number of people killed for organ harvest is of course not included in official counts for executions.
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Evidence that we have a total police state.
 Quoting: Chip


This.

And people have not just let it happen, they have demanded it.

They have allowed themselves to believe that it is somehow justice that a person convicted of a non-violent offense spends the rest of their life in prison.


They demand more and more arbitrary legislation, laws to regulate virtually every aspect of our lives, and severe punishments for non-conformity.

Not only that, but they believe that once someone has been ACCUSED of a crime (a crime that could be as petty as talking back to a cop or not cutting ones grass to the appropriate length or refusing to allow a government entity to install a radiation-emitting smart meter in your home) that they are DESERVING of whatever treatment the police decide to mete out.

There is no more innocent until proven guilty.

If you are ACCUSED of a crime, you are suddenly to be treated as a sub-human being. Like a piece of chattel or worse.

Cops, who were NEVER supposed to have the authority to mete out punishment, are killing people in their own homes without even charging them with a crime, they are killing American citizens on the streets for saying the wrong thing in the wrong tone of voice or for legally carrying weapons that the cops deem threatening. They are killing people's pets because they offer citizens protection.

And what's worse, 90% of American's believe that this is just FINE, that it's OK, because these are the police, they wouldn't do anything that wasn't for the public's own good, right?

If you are unlucky enough to be CONVICTED of a felony, you're pretty much fucked. The populous now believes you are a piece of human refuse, no longer deserving of basic, fundamental human rights, even though nowhere in our Constitution does it say that our American rights can be terminated by the ruling of a criminal court judge.

Then, you are thrown into the prison system, where you are at the mercy of corrupt guards and prison financiers, made to work for pennies an hour while the corrupt people at the top turn a tidy profit. And if you refuse, you will be beaten, starved, thrown in solitary confinement or worse.

And if you complain, nobody will believe you or care, because you are nothing but a criminal, deserving of no consideration or human compassion. Certainly, your word will NEVER be believed above that of a corrections officer.

This is their ultimate goal. To have the good little conformists on the outside, and those who refuse to toe the line be used as slaves on the inside of one prison or another.

They call it justice, but it's really nothing more than a modern institution of human slavery. And as the crimes that people are imprisoned for become more petty and as the general populous becomes more ignorant of their rights, the system will only get bigger and less humane.
 Quoting: Em18966


Very well thought out and written post. I am getting sick of seeing comment sections on news media sources (even on ESPN) spewing guilty until proven innocent rhetoric.

Also, I have a story about the police killing pets bit. My friend was in downtown Denver being questioned by a Denver Police officer about an incident in which he didn't have any involvement. His chihuahua was barking at the police officer questioning him. The officer literally drew his weapon and pointed it at the chihuahua, telling my friend to get his dog under control or he was going to put it down.
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The very second you get private $$$ prisons is exactly when same moment when the prison population will grow massively.
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Yeah, and they are feed more than half of China too!
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The joys of a for-profit prison industry, right?
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China prefers to put a bullet in someones head shortly after they're convicted.....and then charge the perp's family for the bullet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1721958


And you may also be put in a factory to make chinese shit.

Further more Americans used to be a free people, hence they're a bit rebellious, chicoms on the other hand are brought up with the party propaganda and the societal control that comes with communism, Americans are not.

Chinese are more sheeple than the Americans.
They're tame.
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The entire planet is slowly being turned into a prison.
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[link to blog.foreignpolicy.com]



Foreign Policy
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Happy Fourth of July, Incarceration Nation!
BY HANNA KOZLOWSKA JULY 3, 2014 - 10:22 PM


Today many Americans are flipping burgers, knocking back beer, and setting off fireworks to celebrate their country's most trumpeted value: freedom. But a disproportionate part of the population will be denied that privilege, locked up in overcrowded prisons and jails, thousands without the hope of ever attending another cookout.
Many American prisoners are locked up for good reason, but no other nation jails so many people for so long. Among countries with the world's largest prison populations, the United States leads with 2.2 million behind bars. And the countries that immediately trail the global champion of freedom are either much larger or terrible human rights offenders. China comes in second, Russia third.

More in link
 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


These numbers do not consider the thousands who are just executed each year in China or other the forms of incarceration China uses to lock up people for extended lengths of time.

These are primarily :Black jails (unregistered lockups outside the judicial system), "mandatory drug rehabilitation" (labor camps under a different name), legal education schools (brainwashing centers), and "psychiatric hospitals". This list does not include juvenile lockups or two year lock ups for prostitutes.

[link to www.ejinsight.com]

None of these require going before a judge, sentencing, or any of the legal procedures that are required in the US, Canada, UK, etc.

So if you include all the different lockups which have no counterpart in the US, the numbers look a lot different.

I am not defending the US prison system, just saying that the Chinese system has been misrepresented.
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i will not feel safe until half of all murcans are incarcerated
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probably just different flavors.

china has no apparent "freedoms"

but subversively (to the Chinese govt,) Christianity is growing there…

here we have apparent freedoms, one form of idolatry or another… many of which seem designed to milk our souls and tap our energy

meanwhile the church here is barely alive…pastors who don't even know their Bibles, let alone the congregation...

the American "culture" is designed to turn people into worker ants or criminals…

the silver lining is that there are smaller paths (artisans, craftspeople) that afford much more true freedom…though the technocracy seems bent on controlling its host.

but then there is the truth of Christ, which affords eternal freedom from death.
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bump
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Wow NSA disinfo shills all over this thread with their 1 star votes...