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QUESTION:

If man was created in the image of god (presumably to differentiate man from animal), then what is the story on this bald chimp!?!


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At the end of the day, whether someone believes in evolution or not is mostly irrelevant to being a person of faith. We won't know the deepest secrets of creation in our lifetimes, so there is no use arguing over it.

While others may do good deeds and help those in need to share the true love of the lord, there will still be an unfortunate few who think God's will somehow is done through trolling on internet forums.

What is the point of this post? You're not changing anyone's point of view, just making a spectacle of yourself.
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I have no choice but to ascribe suffering to God, as He is the grand designer. And *They* do not create the distrust, *God* creates the distrust. He is the arbiter of *Reality.* His is the *ultimate* responsibility.

As I pointed out before: Perhaps imagine a Heaven and a Hell--dream up a reward and punishment that will somehow magically balance the books, so to write? The problem remains the extent and severity of the suffering. If die she must, far quicker and less-severe methods do end a tyke's existence. Forced listening of country-western music, for example. Children do, unfortunately, ask what the did wrong to be punished by such a condition. What "reward" balances it? Is it greater than that obtained by children who die of leukemia, car accidents, and falling masonry? Why? Furthermore, that one imagines a Mengele horribly tortured throughout eternity--something involving fish hooks and Patsy Cline--does not justify the extensive and severe suffering of the child. Finally, if some grand argumentum ad ignorantiam of a "reward" exists, why do not the children who die of the less-horrible leukemia and steam rollers deserve it?

Therefore, since No Alleviation of such Unjustified Suffering occurred, we are left with Five Possible Choices regarding deities:

1. No Deity Exists
2. A Deity Exists and He is Evil
3. A Deity Exists and He is Incompetent
4. A Deity Exists and He is Irrelevant
5. A Deity Exists and He is Some Combination of 2-4

All are, of course, free to choose from any one of the five.

If you have a *logical* alternative, please describe it.
 Quoting: 74444


You need to read Job if you presume to know the mind of God or to be able to rebuke him in your created mind.
 Quoting: Donkey Jaw


yeah, job is a great example to where "god" is an evil bastard and a great story as to why not a single person should worship such a deity. "hey satan, let's make a bet between you and i about this dude. i'll let you kill his family and tortue him"

funny thing is that the job story is the only example in the bible where satan is given power by god to kill people. i think satan in the bible killed like 10 people. yet god killed millions/billions? but hey, let's worship him anyways!
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How did Job end, pray tell? How do you think the wise man Job was, upon his physcial death, and, seeing through immortal eyes, felt then about his Divinely Appointed example to influence the lives of billions of others for the will of his Loving Almighty God? The wise man would have humbled himself and thanked God for the honor of using him for good and the fruition of his will.

Food for thought.
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Yes. The beaten housewife, again. Thank you Lord for killing my wife and my children to make a point to Lucifer. Such an honor being the tortured soul for such a noble reason as showing up the Fallen One, and allowing the Lord to say 'I told you, so.'

Those were certainly acts of Divine Love. I love you, Big Brother.

Now, would you kindly please directly address my earlier post and points? Do you have a logical way to deal with the Pontine proof? Or will you ignore the proof once again instead?
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There is no logic to your question. God makes man from mud. Separates him for an undisclosed time in eastern Eden (development?) then finally calls him Adam when he his able to learn speech. Read the book, sir/ma'am.
“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”

Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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At the end of the day, whether someone believes in evolution or not is mostly irrelevant to being a person of faith. We won't know the deepest secrets of creation in our lifetimes, so there is no use arguing over it.

While others may do good deeds and help those in need to share the true love of the lord, there will still be an unfortunate few who think God's will somehow is done through trolling on internet forums.

What is the point of this post? You're not changing anyone's point of view, just making a spectacle of yourself.
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It is not the well who need a doctor, but the sick.
“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”

Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians 3:29
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I cannot understand how people keep on arguing about these theories.

I believe in evolution, that humans evolved from other creatures, and i believe in God. I believe in the Bible and as It says, how and when God created man. I guess it is all about the translation of the Bible.

Who are you to decide how long was a day in God's terms of creating? Who are you to decide how and what method God creates man?
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Ever hear of the Bible?
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At the end of the day, whether someone believes in evolution or not is mostly irrelevant to being a person of faith. We won't know the deepest secrets of creation in our lifetimes, so there is no use arguing over it.

While others may do good deeds and help those in need to share the true love of the lord, there will still be an unfortunate few who think God's will somehow is done through trolling on internet forums.

What is the point of this post? You're not changing anyone's point of view, just making a spectacle of yourself.
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When you realize that evolution is indeed a RELIGION, you will want to delete this post.
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Religion: Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.


What do you think the big bang is???
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QUESTION:

If man was created in the image of god (presumably to differentiate man from animal), then what is the story on this bald chimp!?!



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Common Design vs common descent, nothing new here. You need glasses though.
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There is no logic to your question. God makes man from mud. Separates him for an undisclosed time in eastern Eden (development?) then finally calls him Adam when he his able to learn speech. Read the book, sir/ma'am.
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If there is no logic to my question, surely you can find a logical alternative to the five possibilities outlined above. How do you justify the painful death of the innocent child -- an occurrence far more frequent than you imagine -- in any way different than I outlined? If you have an specific alternative, I ask you spell it out entirely.

Please deal with the Proof logically, or admit that you cannot logically address it. At which point, I will have invalidated your earlier claim.
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QUESTION:

If man was created in the image of god (presumably to differentiate man from animal), then what is the story on this bald chimp!?!



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59022802


Common Design vs common descent, nothing new here. You need glasses though.
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Not sure what you mean about glasses, I can see just fine. No need to insult me, it just weakens your position - just a friendly tip.

You dodged the question. By design or descent does not matter - my question is: If god said he made man in the image of god (he didn't make any other animal in the image of god), then how in the world did this creature get so close in appearance to a human. There are differences of course, but this animal has strikingly human physical characteristics. Why would god make them appear this similar - he is all powerful and could make man appear like anything right? It would seem he would want to make man something that REALLY stuck out as 'totally different' from all the other animals.
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There is no logic to your question. God makes man from mud. Separates him for an undisclosed time in eastern Eden (development?) then finally calls him Adam when he his able to learn speech. Read the book, sir/ma'am.
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If there is no logic to my question, surely you can find a logical alternative to the five possibilities outlined above. How do you justify the painful death of the innocent child -- an occurrence far more frequent than you imagine -- in any way different than I outlined? If you have an specific alternative, I ask you spell it out entirely.

Please deal with the Proof logically, or admit that you cannot logically address it. At which point, I will have invalidated your earlier claim.
 Quoting: 74444


As much as you hate to even consider it, you are the fish in the pond, looking up through the distorting water effects at the real, true world above and coming up with every onunce of little fishy brainpower you can to explain something that your abilities will not allow, and it pisses you off.

Read my sig from Tesla five times. Slowly.

Realize your limitations in understanding the almighty creators methods. Humble yourself. Repent. Fear of the lord in his magnificence is the beginning of wisdom.

After that, pray for discernment and wisdom, and they will be added to you as long as it does you no harm. Ask and you shall receive, dear one.

Amen, heavenly Father. Please show this man/woman your face.
“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”

Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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There is no logic to your question. God makes man from mud. Separates him for an undisclosed time in eastern Eden (development?) then finally calls him Adam when he his able to learn speech. Read the book, sir/ma'am.
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If there is no logic to my question, surely you can find a logical alternative to the five possibilities outlined above. How do you justify the painful death of the innocent child -- an occurrence far more frequent than you imagine -- in any way different than I outlined? If you have an specific alternative, I ask you spell it out entirely.

Please deal with the Proof logically, or admit that you cannot logically address it. At which point, I will have invalidated your earlier claim.
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I am assuming you are talking about instances in the Bible where innocents are killed due to what God commanded Moses or Joshua to do. However, I encourage you to always check the context. False gods, etc.
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Plus they are in heaven and will taught during the millineal reign. See Rev. 20.
“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”

Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians 3:29
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There is no logic to your question. God makes man from mud. Separates him for an undisclosed time in eastern Eden (development?) then finally calls him Adam when he his able to learn speech. Read the book, sir/ma'am.
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If there is no logic to my question, surely you can find a logical alternative to the five possibilities outlined above. How do you justify the painful death of the innocent child -- an occurrence far more frequent than you imagine -- in any way different than I outlined? If you have an specific alternative, I ask you spell it out entirely.

Please deal with the Proof logically, or admit that you cannot logically address it. At which point, I will have invalidated your earlier claim.
 Quoting: 74444


As much as you hate to even consider it, you are the fish in the pond, looking up through the distorting water effects at the real, true world above and coming up with every onunce of little fishy brainpower you can to explain something that your abilities will not allow, and it pisses you off.
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Ad hominem noted. You have no information regarding my emotional state, and it is also irrelevant. In the proof, I am very careful to remove any emotional entanglement.

You are reverting to the 'mysterious ways' defense -- which, alas, is no defense at all.

Read my sig from Tesla five times. Slowly.
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Ad hominem noted.

Realize your limitations in understanding the almighty creators methods. Humble yourself. Repent. Fear of the lord in his magnificence is the beginning of wisdom.
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Those are very nice sentiments, but they do not address the Proof one whit. However wise and discerning one may become, it does nothing to justify the suffering I have described; suffering that is far too common, and utterly outside the power of mankind. The five possibilities remain the only logical ones regarding the Deity -- and you know this, or you'd address the proof directly.

After that, pray for discernment and wisdom, and they will be added to you as long as it does you no harm. Ask and you shall receive, dear one.

Amen, heavenly Father. Please show this man/woman your face.
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If He chooses to show his face, I will suggest some easy alterations to reality that would prevent such horrid and gruesome losses of the most innocent among us. You, it seems, are perfectly happy with the status quo as is, so I can only hope it is not your child that ever suffers from such maladies. Or, perhaps when it is, you will *thank* the Deity for his kindness and grace in giving your child such an unnecessarily painful, unnecessarily miserable life and end, despite His supposed power and mercy -- again, just as the beaten housewife *thanks* her tormentor for showing her the *proper* way of things.

Since you are apparently unwilling to address the Proof directly, I can now consider your earlier claim -- that you are much more than a theocrat -- largely invalidated.
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Has there ever been a fossilized creature, or living one, that is part one animal, part another? If evoulution took millions of years some half evolved creatures would be existent or in the fossil. Darwin himself stated that in the absence of the fossil record, his whole theory fall as apart.

As it has.

Case closed.
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Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



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Has there ever been a fossilized creature, or living one, that is part one animal, part another? If evoulution took millions of years some half evolved creatures would be existent or in the fossil.
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Oh, that explains everything.

You are one of those anti-scientists who doesn't have frikkin' clue what evolution actually is.

classic-facepalm
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The Good Doctor's Prodigiously Pretentiously Pompously Perspicaciously Pedagogical Pediatric Pontine Tumor Proof

Here, again, is a real observation that requires explanation despite the believer's cowardice. On occasion children and adolescents can develop a rather nasty tumor of the brain stem, particularly the metencephalon, or pons. It is infiltrative and not amenable to surgery, radiation, or chemotherapy. The latter two therapies merely prolong the ultimate decline.

The decline? As with real estate, the watchword for the central nervous system is "location!" The tumor destroys the descending voluntary pathways and centers for the cranial nerves which enervate facial musculature whilst preserving the sensory pathways. The child progressively losses control of her body up to her eye muscles which allows some rudimentary communication. Since the trigger for consciousness is located in the more rostral ventral midbrain or mesencephalon, she remains conscious throughout the months of decline. During this deterioration, she retains sensation and consciousness. She feels every ulcer, every pain; she remains completely aware of her condition and decline.

Eventually, on a tracheostomy, she will succumb usually to an infection.

This is not only a real case, it is all too frequent.

This is a case of Unjustified Suffering unless you or anyone else can find some manner in which to justify it. Notice that I do not attack the death--people die. Perhaps she was destined to be the next Celine Dion. . . . It is the extent and severity of the suffering that renders it Unjustified Suffering. What did the child do to deserve it? Consider then why Josef Mengele passed easily from a stroke while swimming. Why did he apparently deserve a far easier passage?

Perhaps imagine a Heaven and a Hell--dream up a reward and punishment that will somehow magically balance the books, so to write? The problem remains the extent and severity of the suffering. If die she must, far quicker and less-severe methods do end a tyke's existence. Forced listening of country-western music, for example. Children do, unfortunately, ask what the did wrong to be punished by such a condition. What "reward" balances it? Is it greater than that obtained by children who die of leukemia, car accidents, and falling masonry? Why? Furthermore, that one imagines a Mengele horribly tortured throughout eternity--something involving fish hooks and Patsy Cline--does not justify the extensive and severe suffering of the child. Finally, if some grand argumentum ad ignorantiam of a "reward" exists, why do not the children who die of the less-horrible leukemia and steam rollers deserve it?

Since No Alleviation of her Unjustified Suffering occurred, we are left with Five Possible Choices regarding deities:

1. No Deity Exists
2. A Deity Exists and He is Evil
3. A Deity Exists and He is Incompetent
4. A Deity Exists and He is Irrelevant
5. A Deity Exists and He is Some Combination of 2-4

All are, of course, free to choose from any one of the five.
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I thought this thread was a debate about the religion of evolution, not the religion of the bible.

Have you got anything on evolution, or just attacks on the bible which mearly show your own lack of understanding of a whole other topic?
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Has there ever been a fossilized creature, or living one, that is part one animal, part another? If evoulution took millions of years some half evolved creatures would be existent or in the fossil.
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Oh, that explains everything.

You are one of those anti-scientists who doesn't have frikkin' clue what evolution actually is.

classic-facepalm
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No I'm am showing you, painstakingly, that evolution is more a religion than every religion.
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Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



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Galatians 3:29
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Has there ever been a fossilized creature, or living one, that is part one animal, part another? If evoulution took millions of years some half evolved creatures would be existent or in the fossil.
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Oh, that explains everything.

You are one of those anti-scientists who doesn't have frikkin' clue what evolution actually is.

:classic-facepalm:
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No I'm am showing you, painstakingly, that evolution is more a religion than every religion.
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In other words, you don't have a clue what evolution actually is.

Duly noted.
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Has there ever been a fossilized creature, or living one, that is part one animal, part another?
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Sigh.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Why does it tend to be that the most vociferous critics of evolution remain those that are most uninformed about it?

If evoulution took millions of years some half evolved creatures would be existent or in the fossil. Darwin himself stated that in the absence of the fossil record, his whole theory fall as apart.
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Please cite sources confirming Darwin himself stating this.

Now are you going to address the Proof I provided earlier in any substantial way?
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The Good Doctor's Prodigiously Pretentiously Pompously Perspicaciously Pedagogical Pediatric Pontine Tumor Proof

Here, again, is a real observation that requires explanation despite the believer's cowardice. On occasion children and adolescents can develop a rather nasty tumor of the brain stem, particularly the metencephalon, or pons. It is infiltrative and not amenable to surgery, radiation, or chemotherapy. The latter two therapies merely prolong the ultimate decline.

The decline? As with real estate, the watchword for the central nervous system is "location!" The tumor destroys the descending voluntary pathways and centers for the cranial nerves which enervate facial musculature whilst preserving the sensory pathways. The child progressively losses control of her body up to her eye muscles which allows some rudimentary communication. Since the trigger for consciousness is located in the more rostral ventral midbrain or mesencephalon, she remains conscious throughout the months of decline. During this deterioration, she retains sensation and consciousness. She feels every ulcer, every pain; she remains completely aware of her condition and decline.

Eventually, on a tracheostomy, she will succumb usually to an infection.

This is not only a real case, it is all too frequent.

This is a case of Unjustified Suffering unless you or anyone else can find some manner in which to justify it. Notice that I do not attack the death--people die. Perhaps she was destined to be the next Celine Dion. . . . It is the extent and severity of the suffering that renders it Unjustified Suffering. What did the child do to deserve it? Consider then why Josef Mengele passed easily from a stroke while swimming. Why did he apparently deserve a far easier passage?

Perhaps imagine a Heaven and a Hell--dream up a reward and punishment that will somehow magically balance the books, so to write? The problem remains the extent and severity of the suffering. If die she must, far quicker and less-severe methods do end a tyke's existence. Forced listening of country-western music, for example. Children do, unfortunately, ask what the did wrong to be punished by such a condition. What "reward" balances it? Is it greater than that obtained by children who die of leukemia, car accidents, and falling masonry? Why? Furthermore, that one imagines a Mengele horribly tortured throughout eternity--something involving fish hooks and Patsy Cline--does not justify the extensive and severe suffering of the child. Finally, if some grand argumentum ad ignorantiam of a "reward" exists, why do not the children who die of the less-horrible leukemia and steam rollers deserve it?

Since No Alleviation of her Unjustified Suffering occurred, we are left with Five Possible Choices regarding deities:

1. No Deity Exists
2. A Deity Exists and He is Evil
3. A Deity Exists and He is Incompetent
4. A Deity Exists and He is Irrelevant
5. A Deity Exists and He is Some Combination of 2-4

All are, of course, free to choose from any one of the five.
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I thought this thread was a debate about the religion of evolution, not the religion of the bible.

Have you got anything on evolution, or just attacks on the bible which mearly show your own lack of understanding of a whole other topic?
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Sorry to be difficult, but I was merely taking the OP up on his challenge when he wrote:

I'm so much more than a theocrat. I will debate you on any subject you choose, wisdom for wisdom....then bring it right back to God. Easy as pie....
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I have taken him up on this, and thus remain completely on-topic.
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If you can pinpoint who wrote Genesis then we may have an argument. Even bible scholars who have spent their whole lives studying the works and where they came from can not pinpoint the author of many books in the bible. The bible never calls itself the "EXACT" words of God only the "INSPIRED" words of God. More than likely Genesis was written based on the Babylonian Creation myths and parts of the Enuma Elis were borrowed to help cement a new canaanite or akkadian religion, thus Hebrews.

Can we just agree that either format be it Creation or Evolution will never be proven until we have time travel and visit the beginning of life on Earth. Is it possible that both are correct? Sure. Is God not big enough to create evolution. Just because something is not in the bible does not mean that it isn't applicable to our lives.

I am tired of Christians who are dumb. They don't know anything about the history of their own religion or where the parts of the bible come from. Faith is a belief in things not seen not an excuse to refute the things you can see when they contradict. Most Christians I talk too do not realize that only one of the Gospels was written by someone who was actually near Jesus by the Bible's own admission. Most of these gospels were right 40+ years after his death. That is like you writing about the events leading up to the Space Shuttle launch to the moon in 1969 and the only information you have to go on is what others are telling you.

It is entirely possible and there is evidence that suggests many aspects of the bible have been changed when it was translated into English to create a religion where the people were subservient to the church. The bible has been molested by many different translations and for those who said that God would not allow that then I ask why would God allow anything terrible that happens. He draws a line in the sand at someone changing words in a book but he will let a 12 year old girl get gang raped and killed.

At the end of the day be it Creationism or Evolution it doesn't really change much does it. You still go on with your life today.
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Has there ever been a fossilized creature, or living one, that is part one animal, part another? If evoulution took millions of years some half evolved creatures would be existent or in the fossil.
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Oh, that explains everything.

You are one of those anti-scientists who doesn't have frikkin' clue what evolution actually is.

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No I'm am showing you, painstakingly, that evolution is more a religion than every religion.
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In other words, you don't have a clue what evolution actually is.

Duly noted.
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Yet not particularly surprising.
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Wrong again.
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There is a big difference between micro evolution (adaptation) and Macro evolution, the changing of ONE WHOLE SPECIES TO ANOTHER. THIS HAS NEVER EVER BEEN PROVEN AND IS FALSE.

case. Closed.

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“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”

Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

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There is a big difference between micro evolution (adaptation) and Macro evolution, the changing of ONE WHOLE SPECIES TO ANOTHER. THIS HAS NEVER EVER BEEN PROVEN AND IS FALSE.

case. Closed.
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Repeating a false claim does not make it true. No matter how many times you repeat it.

Likewise, repeatedly claiming a case is closed does not make that so, either.

Now, are you going to address my Pontine Tumor proof, or continue to merely handwave it away?
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There is a big difference between micro evolution (adaptation) and Macro evolution, the changing of ONE WHOLE SPECIES TO ANOTHER. THIS HAS NEVER EVER BEEN PROVEN AND IS FALSE.

case. Closed.
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Bare assertion fallacy.

Oh, logic is logic and superstition is superstition, and never the twain shall meet...
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