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The above /\ says it all.
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It's becoming clear that people who do not accept evolution as a reality are people who do not have any understanding of the process by which it occurs.

You keep saying, "Organisms don't just change into other organisms."

And you're right. They don't. That is not how evolution works.

When an organism undergoes a genetic mutation (this happens randomly and it happens all the time) that organism is by definition genetically different than its predecessors. If said mutation proves to be advantageous to that organism's survival, then it is able to outlive its predecessors and pass along its mutation to its offspring. Thus a new genetic type emerges and spreads. Now all these offspring which have retained this mutation can go and procreate and spread the gene even further. The longer this goes on, the more pronounced and defined the mutation becomes until it is no longer considered a mutation and can be regarded as a new species. This is in fact necessary to prevent inbreeding.

You must realize that this has been going on at the most basic cellular level since the beginning of carbon based life. It is why we have nucleic DNA and mitochondrial DNA. Originally a mitochondria was a seperate cell with a life of its own. It was eventually incorporated into eukaryotic cells which developed a symbiotic relationship with the mitochondria and allowed them to benefit from mitochondrial energy production. To this day we still have mitochondrial DNA separate from our cell nuclei. There is no way to explain this beyond genetic mutation and evolution,
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That's adaptation , a dog remains a dog , a bird a bird . Although th theory of evolution has evolved into a religion , but that's not biological just illogical .
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Six fingers and toes, double dentition......introduced by the Nephelim. Fact. The genes are latent, not mutations.

Next.
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Hahaha no. So you have no logical or scientific basis for any of this. Which we knew already. But it's still funny to see you repeating yourself saying, "Because an invisible man in the sky said so! That's my reasoning!"
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


More archaeological evidence for the bible being accurate out weighs your....well....empty pile of evidence for evolution. Goliath was a giant. We have inscriptions of his pottery. Your evidence DOES NOT EXIST!

Mine DOES!
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Listen...you haven't brought any evidence to the table. No creationist ever has. By definition, you are relying on your faith over actual facts or reason. That's fine for you. But a attempting to prove anyone else wrong is literally impossible for you. If it helps you sleep at night, believe whatever you want. But you're better of not making yourself look like a fool by claiming you have "evidence."
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Ok. Do you believe as most evolutionists do that life came from a single celled organism and through eons of time time and chance mutations of DNA became all that is today?

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It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



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It's becoming clear that people who do not accept evolution as a reality are people who do not have any understanding of the process by which it occurs.

You keep saying, "Organisms don't just change into other organisms."

And you're right. They don't. That is not how evolution works.

When an organism undergoes a genetic mutation (this happens randomly and it happens all the time) that organism is by definition genetically different than its predecessors. If said mutation proves to be advantageous to that organism's survival, then it is able to outlive its predecessors and pass along its mutation to its offspring. Thus a new genetic type emerges and spreads. Now all these offspring which have retained this mutation can go and procreate and spread the gene even further. The longer this goes on, the more pronounced and defined the mutation becomes until it is no longer considered a mutation and can be regarded as a new species. This is in fact necessary to prevent inbreeding.

You must realize that this has been going on at the most basic cellular level since the beginning of carbon based life. It is why we have nucleic DNA and mitochondrial DNA. Originally a mitochondria was a seperate cell with a life of its own. It was eventually incorporated into eukaryotic cells which developed a symbiotic relationship with the mitochondria and allowed them to benefit from mitochondrial energy production. To this day we still have mitochondrial DNA separate from our cell nuclei. There is no way to explain this beyond genetic mutation and evolution,
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That's adaptation , a dog remains a dog , a bird a bird . Although th theory of evolution has evolved into a religion , but that's not biological just illogical .
 Quoting: Azadok61


Adaptation is a small step in evolution.

And the prokaryotic cells' incorporation of mitochondria and other organelles IS direct evidence of evolution. Eukaryotes from prokaryotes. Organisms from eukaryotes. It cannot be denied.
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Hahaha no. So you have no logical or scientific basis for any of this. Which we knew already. But it's still funny to see you repeating yourself saying, "Because an invisible man in the sky said so! That's my reasoning!"
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


More archaeological evidence for the bible being accurate out weighs your....well....empty pile of evidence for evolution. Goliath was a giant. We have inscriptions of his pottery. Your evidence DOES NOT EXIST!

Mine DOES!
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Listen...you haven't brought any evidence to the table. No creationist ever has. By definition, you are relying on your faith over actual facts or reason. That's fine for you. But a attempting to prove anyone else wrong is literally impossible for you. If it helps you sleep at night, believe whatever you want. But you're better of not making yourself look like a fool by claiming you have "evidence."
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Ok. Do you believe as most evolutionists do that life came from a single celled organism and through eons of time time and chance mutations of DNA became all that is today?
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Is this not the basis of evolutionary belief? Please answer.

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Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



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Hahaha no. So you have no logical or scientific basis for any of this. Which we knew already. But it's still funny to see you repeating yourself saying, "Because an invisible man in the sky said so! That's my reasoning!"
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


More archaeological evidence for the bible being accurate out weighs your....well....empty pile of evidence for evolution. Goliath was a giant. We have inscriptions of his pottery. Your evidence DOES NOT EXIST!

Mine DOES!
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Listen...you haven't brought any evidence to the table. No creationist ever has. By definition, you are relying on your faith over actual facts or reason. That's fine for you. But a attempting to prove anyone else wrong is literally impossible for you. If it helps you sleep at night, believe whatever you want. But you're better of not making yourself look like a fool by claiming you have "evidence."
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Ok. Do you believe as most evolutionists do that life came from a single celled organism and through chance mutations of DNA became all that is today?
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Given that we all share the same mitochondrial DNA going all the way back to Mitochondrial Eve and that our genetic structure is roughly 50% similar to a banana? And given that carbon based DNA is roughly 8 billion years old and the earth is about half that old? Yes, I'd say it would be silly not to accept that our cellular ancestors probably ended up here by riding on space dust.
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An ASSertion just as unevidenced as PUNISHER's "The Earth is flat!!11!OMG11!!" bullshit.
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You resort to semantics for your argument because you have no EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION!
 Quoting: Newton's Own

Unevidenced ASSertion.

The entire universe, galaxy and our intricately balanced Earth ecosystem SCREAM intelligent design by a divine CREATOR. God Almighty!
 Quoting: Newton's Own

And another one.

WTF is wrong with you?
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Not even the brightest light can make a blind man see.
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Platitudes are no substitute for evidence.

You're all blab...
Just another bullshitter-on-the-internet.

Booooring!
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More archaeological evidence for the bible being accurate out weighs your....well....empty pile of evidence for evolution. Goliath was a giant. We have inscriptions of his pottery. Your evidence DOES NOT EXIST!

Mine DOES!
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Listen...you haven't brought any evidence to the table. No creationist ever has. By definition, you are relying on your faith over actual facts or reason. That's fine for you. But a attempting to prove anyone else wrong is literally impossible for you. If it helps you sleep at night, believe whatever you want. But you're better of not making yourself look like a fool by claiming you have "evidence."
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Ok. Do you believe as most evolutionists do that life came from a single celled organism and through chance mutations of DNA became all that is today?
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Given that we all share the same mitochondrial DNA going all the way back to Mitochondrial Eve and that our genetic structure is roughly 50% similar to a banana? And given that carbon based DNA is roughly 8 billion years old and the earth is about half that old? Yes, I'd say it would be silly not to accept that our cellular ancestors probably ended up here by riding on space dust.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


So life came from a single celled organism and through eons of time time and chance mutations of DNA became all that is today.

Open your mind and I will show you a wonder. Set aside preconceived notions and just read and let your mind take it in just as it is.

"time" and "chance" are inventions of man. Time was invented by man because he is finite. Time does not exist to God. God is I AM.

Now "chance". Flip a coin and it's either heads or tails. 50-50 "chance". What if you knew the exact pressure to apply to the coin, the wind, barometric pressure, the moments of the heavenly bodies, all creation, everything.....you could make it land on heads every. Single. Time. God is not held to chance. There is no such thing as chance or time to God Almighty. These are man made, propagated by Satan through gambling.

We are much more powerful than we know.

FREE YOUR MIND!

FAITH, COMPLETE AND TOTAL, IS THE KEY!
“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”

Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

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Listen...you haven't brought any evidence to the table. No creationist ever has. By definition, you are relying on your faith over actual facts or reason. That's fine for you. But a attempting to prove anyone else wrong is literally impossible for you. If it helps you sleep at night, believe whatever you want. But you're better of not making yourself look like a fool by claiming you have "evidence."
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Ok. Do you believe as most evolutionists do that life came from a single celled organism and through chance mutations of DNA became all that is today?
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Given that we all share the same mitochondrial DNA going all the way back to Mitochondrial Eve and that our genetic structure is roughly 50% similar to a banana? And given that carbon based DNA is roughly 8 billion years old and the earth is about half that old? Yes, I'd say it would be silly not to accept that our cellular ancestors probably ended up here by riding on space dust.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


So life came from a single celled organism and through eons of time time and chance mutations of DNA became all that is today.

Open your mind and I will show you a wonder. Set aside preconceived notions and just read and let your mind take it in just as it is.

"time" and "chance" are inventions of man. Time was invented by man because he is finite. Time does not exist to God. God is I AM.

Now "chance". Flip a coin and it's either heads or tails. 50-50 "chance". What if you knew the exact pressure to apply to the coin, the wind, barometric pressure, the moments of the heavenly bodies, all creation, everything.....you could make it land on heads every. Single. Time. God is not held to chance. There is no such thing as chance or time to God Almighty. These are man made, propagated by Satan through gambling.

We are much more powerful than we know.

FREE YOUR MIND!

FAITH, COMPLETE AND TOTAL, IS THE KEY!
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Ok, so now you've gone from evolution and genetics to quantum physics...something else you have misrepresented.

Time is a construct, a measurement of distance creating a 4th dimension of space. It is not real in the sense that without physical matter which can decay it has no purpose. But anything operating in the 3rd dimensional or physical universe is affected in some way by time. Hence relativity.

Come on, man. You're just making your argument look worse. Go learn about this stuff before you try to talk about it.
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I don't know if it's true but the fat man on one of his movies talked about how Darwin and his best friend had an experiment. Their families interbred and they thought they would have baby hercules, but by the second generation they were mostly retarded.

If evolution were true how come there are no reptiles as advanced as us, how come they aren't building cities. I believe it's a common sense issue, but some are too blinded to see. I also believe it is to get more people to disregard the fact there's a God.

I know there are a ton of videos disproving the conclusion, but I saw an intelligent design video where they got into the bacterial flagellar motor. If nothing at the very least it's an amazing motor. Liquid cooled, spins thirty thousand rpms? and can stop on a quarter turn.

So what are we going to evolve into so called Gods?
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I cannot understand how people keep on arguing about these theories.

I believe in evolution, that humans evolved from other creatures, and i believe in God. I believe in the Bible and as It says, how and when God created man. I guess it is all about the translation of the Bible.

Who are you to decide how long was a day in God's terms of creating? Who are you to decide how and what method God creates man?
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this is called loosely reading bible, and corrupt it to what you want.

it says adam was created by G-d's own hands straight from earth.
nothing about evolving from other animals.
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Also this person tries to say that the word for day in Genesis 1 means anything other than a 24 hour day, a stupid heresy that is easily destroy by looking at what was created in every 24 hour day.

Day tree, grass and herbs created, sun not created until day four, so if a day is thousands of years or millions how did the grass and herbs survive? :D

A person must be very twisted and stupid to believe that shit that the 24 hours days of Genesis are anything but 24 hour days.

Also talk about a slow God :D
"Yawn" I think I'll let it go 24000 years until I create this next thing. I mean that shit is something the "god" of islam would do, that sucker don't even know if it took him 6 or 8 days to create :D

The number 7 here is the point of the creation 6 days work 1 day of rest, else we'd get like a million years off if a day is say a million years, most of the freeloaders on this planet apparently think that is the case :D
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Ok. Do you believe as most evolutionists do that life came from a single celled organism and through chance mutations of DNA became all that is today?
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Given that we all share the same mitochondrial DNA going all the way back to Mitochondrial Eve and that our genetic structure is roughly 50% similar to a banana? And given that carbon based DNA is roughly 8 billion years old and the earth is about half that old? Yes, I'd say it would be silly not to accept that our cellular ancestors probably ended up here by riding on space dust.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


So life came from a single celled organism and through eons of time time and chance mutations of DNA became all that is today.

Open your mind and I will show you a wonder. Set aside preconceived notions and just read and let your mind take it in just as it is.

"time" and "chance" are inventions of man. Time was invented by man because he is finite. Time does not exist to God. God is I AM.

Now "chance". Flip a coin and it's either heads or tails. 50-50 "chance". What if you knew the exact pressure to apply to the coin, the wind, barometric pressure, the moments of the heavenly bodies, all creation, everything.....you could make it land on heads every. Single. Time. God is not held to chance. There is no such thing as chance or time to God Almighty. These are man made, propagated by Satan through gambling.

We are much more powerful than we know.

FREE YOUR MIND!

FAITH, COMPLETE AND TOTAL, IS THE KEY!
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Ok, so now you've gone from evolution and genetics to quantum physics...something else you have misrepresented.

Time is a construct, a measurement of distance creating a 4th dimension of space. It is not real in the sense that without physical matter which can decay it has no purpose. But anything operating in the 3rd dimensional or physical universe is affected in some way by time. Hence relativity.

Come on, man. You're just making your argument look worse. Go learn about this stuff before you try to talk about it.
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So with your example evolution is bullshit because it invokes time to make it work , so as you say time is not real in a sense that would make evolution not real in any sense .
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There should be absolutely no measurable radioactive carbon left in anything that was once living that is greater than 100,000 years old, and yet there has been measurable radioactive carbon found in dinosaur bones, meaning that paleontologists have been pulling false numbers out of thin air and that dinosaurs are actually younger than the scientific community tells us.

“In June of 1990, Hugh Miller submitted two dinosaur bone fragments to the Department of Geosciences at the University in Tucson, Arizona for carbon-14 analysis. One fragment was from an unidentified dinosaur. The other was from an Allosaurus excavated by James Hall near Grand Junction, Colorado in 1989. Miller submitted the samples without disclosing the identity of the bones. (Had the scientists known the samples actually were from dinosaurs, they would not have bothered dating them, since it is assumed dinosaurs lived millions of years ago—outside the limits of radiocarbon dating.) Interestingly, the C-14 analysis indicated that the bones were from 10,000-16,000 years old—a far cry from their alleged 60-million-year-old age.”

The fact that we are finding soft tissue in dinosaur bones indicates that these dinosaurs are much less than 100,000 years old - quite a large jump from the numbers that paleontologists have thrown out for years.

Kind of puts a damper on the whole "evolution timeline", huh evolutionists? And yet it completely fits the biblical timeline...
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I don't know if it's true but the fat man on one of his movies talked about how Darwin and his best friend had an experiment. Their families interbred and they thought they would have baby hercules, but by the second generation they were mostly retarded.

If evolution were true how come there are no reptiles as advanced as us, how come they aren't building cities. I believe it's a common sense issue, but some are too blinded to see. I also believe it is to get more people to disregard the fact there's a God.

I know there are a ton of videos disproving the conclusion, but I saw an intelligent design video where they got into the bacterial flagellar motor. If nothing at the very least it's an amazing motor. Liquid cooled, spins thirty thousand rpms? and can stop on a quarter turn.

So what are we going to evolve into so called Gods?
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Yes Darwin had several retard babies. He was a moran, just look at the pictures of that degenerate, anyone could tell he'd have retard babies.

He also did it with his cousin, because no one else would have that damaged goods (kinda like the arabs that love to do it with their cousins and sisters, and that's why they are muslims, total retardation and Darwing being a retard because he most likely was the result of generations of inbreeding too).

And yes they want to be supermen, but these degenerates will just end up in hell, but hey that's their choice, they've also been warned numerous times, but money and power has totally blinded these scumbags. So let them go burn for ever, that's what they want.
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Given that we all share the same mitochondrial DNA going all the way back to Mitochondrial Eve and that our genetic structure is roughly 50% similar to a banana? And given that carbon based DNA is roughly 8 billion years old and the earth is about half that old? Yes, I'd say it would be silly not to accept that our cellular ancestors probably ended up here by riding on space dust.
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So life came from a single celled organism and through eons of time time and chance mutations of DNA became all that is today.

Open your mind and I will show you a wonder. Set aside preconceived notions and just read and let your mind take it in just as it is.

"time" and "chance" are inventions of man. Time was invented by man because he is finite. Time does not exist to God. God is I AM.

Now "chance". Flip a coin and it's either heads or tails. 50-50 "chance". What if you knew the exact pressure to apply to the coin, the wind, barometric pressure, the moments of the heavenly bodies, all creation, everything.....you could make it land on heads every. Single. Time. God is not held to chance. There is no such thing as chance or time to God Almighty. These are man made, propagated by Satan through gambling.

We are much more powerful than we know.

FREE YOUR MIND!

FAITH, COMPLETE AND TOTAL, IS THE KEY!
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Ok, so now you've gone from evolution and genetics to quantum physics...something else you have misrepresented.

Time is a construct, a measurement of distance creating a 4th dimension of space. It is not real in the sense that without physical matter which can decay it has no purpose. But anything operating in the 3rd dimensional or physical universe is affected in some way by time. Hence relativity.

Come on, man. You're just making your argument look worse. Go learn about this stuff before you try to talk about it.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


So with your example evolution is bullshit because it invokes time to make it work , so as you say time is not real in a sense that would make evolution not real in any sense .
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Do you even bother to read what other posters wrote before you comment?

Physical beings (LIKE HUMANS) operate in the physical universe and are therefor affected by DECAY OF MATTER and thus time.

When you learn how to escape your physical body then we can discuss the irrelevance of evolution. But for now you are still an organic being and are subject to the passage of time.
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I don't know if it's true but the fat man on one of his movies talked about how Darwin and his best friend had an experiment. Their families interbred and they thought they would have baby hercules, but by the second generation they were mostly retarded.

If evolution were true how come there are no reptiles as advanced as us, how come they aren't building cities. I believe it's a common sense issue, but some are too blinded to see. I also believe it is to get more people to disregard the fact there's a God.

I know there are a ton of videos disproving the conclusion, but I saw an intelligent design video where they got into the bacterial flagellar motor. If nothing at the very least it's an amazing motor. Liquid cooled, spins thirty thousand rpms? and can stop on a quarter turn.

So what are we going to evolve into so called Gods?
 Quoting: Heed


Yes Darwin had several retard babies. He was a moran, just look at the pictures of that degenerate, anyone could tell he'd have retard babies.

He also did it with his cousin, because no one else would have that damaged goods (kinda like the arabs that love to do it with their cousins and sisters, and that's why they are muslims, total retardation and Darwing being a retard because he most likely was the result of generations of inbreeding too).

And yes they want to be supermen, but these degenerates will just end up in hell, but hey that's their choice, they've also been warned numerous times, but money and power has totally blinded these scumbags. So let them go burn for ever, that's what they want.
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He does look like an inbred scumbag. Thanks for the laugh. The town I moved to has a lot of inbreeders and I see the resemblence.

That atheist meme you posted is priceless. People will read that and still wont consider the truth.

I used to believe in hell, but i'm not sure I do anymore. How could God judge us on a speck of existence for eternity, and send us to burn in hell. Although I agree fully there are people on this planet that should burn in hell. Not trying to derail this thread, but had to say it.
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I cannot understand how people keep on arguing about these theories.

I believe in evolution, that humans evolved from other creatures, and i believe in God. I believe in the Bible and as It says, how and when God created man. I guess it is all about the translation of the Bible.

Who are you to decide how long was a day in God's terms of creating? Who are you to decide how and what method God creates man?
 Quoting: far&away


this is called loosely reading bible, and corrupt it to what you want.

it says adam was created by G-d's own hands straight from earth.
nothing about evolving from other animals.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 3


Also this person tries to say that the word for day in Genesis 1 means anything other than a 24 hour day, a stupid heresy that is easily destroy by looking at what was created in every 24 hour day.

Day tree, grass and herbs created, sun not created until day four, so if a day is thousands of years or millions how did the grass and herbs survive? :D

A person must be very twisted and stupid to believe that shit that the 24 hours days of Genesis are anything but 24 hour days.

Also talk about a slow God :D
"Yawn" I think I'll let it go 24000 years until I create this next thing. I mean that shit is something the "god" of islam would do, that sucker don't even know if it took him 6 or 8 days to create :D

The number 7 here is the point of the creation 6 days work 1 day of rest, else we'd get like a million years off if a day is say a million years, most of the freeloaders on this planet apparently think that is the case :D
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


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Given that we all share the same mitochondrial DNA going all the way back to Mitochondrial Eve and that our genetic structure is roughly 50% similar to a banana? And given that carbon based DNA is roughly 8 billion years old and the earth is about half that old? Yes, I'd say it would be silly not to accept that our cellular ancestors probably ended up here by riding on space dust.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


So life came from a single celled organism and through eons of time time and chance mutations of DNA became all that is today.

Open your mind and I will show you a wonder. Set aside preconceived notions and just read and let your mind take it in just as it is.

"time" and "chance" are inventions of man. Time was invented by man because he is finite. Time does not exist to God. God is I AM.

Now "chance". Flip a coin and it's either heads or tails. 50-50 "chance". What if you knew the exact pressure to apply to the coin, the wind, barometric pressure, the moments of the heavenly bodies, all creation, everything.....you could make it land on heads every. Single. Time. God is not held to chance. There is no such thing as chance or time to God Almighty. These are man made, propagated by Satan through gambling.

We are much more powerful than we know.

FREE YOUR MIND!

FAITH, COMPLETE AND TOTAL, IS THE KEY!
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Ok, so now you've gone from evolution and genetics to quantum physics...something else you have misrepresented.

Time is a construct, a measurement of distance creating a 4th dimension of space. It is not real in the sense that without physical matter which can decay it has no purpose. But anything operating in the 3rd dimensional or physical universe is affected in some way by time. Hence relativity.

Come on, man. You're just making your argument look worse. Go learn about this stuff before you try to talk about it.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


So with your example evolution is bullshit because it invokes time to make it work , so as you say time is not real in a sense that would make evolution not real in any sense .
 Quoting: Azadok61


There should be absolutely no measurable radioactive carbon left in anything that was once living that is greater than 100,000 years old, and yet there has been measurable radioactive carbon found in dinosaur bones, meaning that paleontologists have been pulling false numbers out of thin air and that dinosaurs are actually younger than the scientific community tells us.

“In June of 1990, Hugh Miller submitted two dinosaur bone fragments to the Department of Geosciences at the University in Tucson, Arizona for carbon-14 analysis. One fragment was from an unidentified dinosaur. The other was from an Allosaurus excavated by James Hall near Grand Junction, Colorado in 1989. Miller submitted the samples without disclosing the identity of the bones. (Had the scientists known the samples actually were from dinosaurs, they would not have bothered dating them, since it is assumed dinosaurs lived millions of years ago—outside the limits of radiocarbon dating.) Interestingly, the C-14 analysis indicated that the bones were from 10,000-16,000 years old—a far cry from their alleged 60-million-year-old age.”

The fact that we are finding soft tissue in dinosaur bones indicates that these dinosaurs are much less than 100,000 years old - quite a large jump from the numbers that paleontologists have thrown out for years.

Kind of puts a damper on the whole "evolution timeline", huh evolutionists? And yet it completely fits the biblical timeline...
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ath1
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


I don't know if it's true but the fat man on one of his movies talked about how Darwin and his best friend had an experiment. Their families interbred and they thought they would have baby hercules, but by the second generation they were mostly retarded.

If evolution were true how come there are no reptiles as advanced as us, how come they aren't building cities. I believe it's a common sense issue, but some are too blinded to see. I also believe it is to get more people to disregard the fact there's a God.

I know there are a ton of videos disproving the conclusion, but I saw an intelligent design video where they got into the bacterial flagellar motor. If nothing at the very least it's an amazing motor. Liquid cooled, spins thirty thousand rpms? and can stop on a quarter turn.

So what are we going to evolve into so called Gods?
 Quoting: Heed


Yes Darwin had several retard babies. He was a moran, just look at the pictures of that degenerate, anyone could tell he'd have retard babies.

He also did it with his cousin, because no one else would have that damaged goods (kinda like the arabs that love to do it with their cousins and sisters, and that's why they are muslims, total retardation and Darwing being a retard because he most likely was the result of generations of inbreeding too).

And yes they want to be supermen, but these degenerates will just end up in hell, but hey that's their choice, they've also been warned numerous times, but money and power has totally blinded these scumbags. So let them go burn for ever, that's what they want.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


AMEN BROTHERS! Brilliant responses!

Thank you, Father!
“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”

Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



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I cannot understand how people keep on arguing about these theories.

I believe in evolution, that humans evolved from other creatures, and i believe in God. I believe in the Bible and as It says, how and when God created man. I guess it is all about the translation of the Bible.

Who are you to decide how long was a day in God's terms of creating? Who are you to decide how and what method God creates man?
 Quoting: far&away


this is called loosely reading bible, and corrupt it to what you want.

it says adam was created by G-d's own hands straight from earth.
nothing about evolving from other animals.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 3


Also this person tries to say that the word for day in Genesis 1 means anything other than a 24 hour day, a stupid heresy that is easily destroy by looking at what was created in every 24 hour day.

Day tree, grass and herbs created, sun not created until day four, so if a day is thousands of years or millions how did the grass and herbs survive? :D

A person must be very twisted and stupid to believe that shit that the 24 hours days of Genesis are anything but 24 hour days.

Also talk about a slow God :D
"Yawn" I think I'll let it go 24000 years until I create this next thing. I mean that shit is something the "god" of islam would do, that sucker don't even know if it took him 6 or 8 days to create :D

The number 7 here is the point of the creation 6 days work 1 day of rest, else we'd get like a million years off if a day is say a million years, most of the freeloaders on this planet apparently think that is the case :D
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Ok let's look at what you said here , that It is stupid heresy to think that the 24 hours meant any other thing than 24 hours .


Well here is a heratic by your standards , his name was Simon Peter , he was an apostle of Yashua .

2Peter 2:8 KJV
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So now that we have determined you are ignorant by Gods standard , because one must remember that all scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit aka God the Father Aka Jesus the Christ .

When you call someone out at least have the testicular fortitude to cite the person you so vehemently attack in your ignorance of Gods Word and teachings .

Now if you would like a proper tutorial of Genesis and stop listening to the traditions of man which make void the word of God , I would be more than happy to help a Christian brother or sister to understand and erase the lies of mans churches instilpinyin upon your brain since childhood , I too was ignorant like yourself until the Holy Spirit freed me of mans religion and guided me to the truth of the WORD aka Jesus .peace .

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Ok. Do you believe as most evolutionists do that life came from a single celled organism and through chance mutations of DNA became all that is today?
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Given that we all share the same mitochondrial DNA going all the way back to Mitochondrial Eve and that our genetic structure is roughly 50% similar to a banana? And given that carbon based DNA is roughly 8 billion years old and the earth is about half that old? Yes, I'd say it would be silly not to accept that our cellular ancestors probably ended up here by riding on space dust.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


So life came from a single celled organism and through eons of time time and chance mutations of DNA became all that is today.

Open your mind and I will show you a wonder. Set aside preconceived notions and just read and let your mind take it in just as it is.

"time" and "chance" are inventions of man. Time was invented by man because he is finite. Time does not exist to God. God is I AM.

Now "chance". Flip a coin and it's either heads or tails. 50-50 "chance". What if you knew the exact pressure to apply to the coin, the wind, barometric pressure, the moments of the heavenly bodies, all creation, everything.....you could make it land on heads every. Single. Time. God is not held to chance. There is no such thing as chance or time to God Almighty. These are man made, propagated by Satan through gambling.

We are much more powerful than we know.

FREE YOUR MIND!

FAITH, COMPLETE AND TOTAL, IS THE KEY!
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Ok, so now you've gone from evolution and genetics to quantum physics...something else you have misrepresented.

Time is a construct, a measurement of distance creating a 4th dimension of space. It is not real in the sense that without physical matter which can decay it has no purpose. But anything operating in the 3rd dimensional or physical universe is affected in some way by time. Hence relativity.

Come on, man. You're just making your argument look worse. Go learn about this stuff before you try to talk about it.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


How about I show you another wonder since you seem to grasp quantum reality. God is everywhere. Your thoughts have weight and affect your surroundings.

Flip a coin 100 times giving no thought or care which side it lands on and record the results.

Flip the coin again 100 times each time saying heads heads heads or tails tails tails, your pick, but only think of the one or the other exclusively.

Your results will not be 50-50. The numbers will tend to reflect the side you wished for. It must be an honest attempt. The open mind should have no problem with this.

Try it. Broaden your mind.
“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”

Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians 3:29
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I cannot understand how people keep on arguing about these theories.

I believe in evolution, that humans evolved from other creatures, and i believe in God. I believe in the Bible and as It says, how and when God created man. I guess it is all about the translation of the Bible.

Who are you to decide how long was a day in God's terms of creating? Who are you to decide how and what method God creates man?
 Quoting: far&away


this is called loosely reading bible, and corrupt it to what you want.

it says adam was created by G-d's own hands straight from earth.
nothing about evolving from other animals.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 3


Also this person tries to say that the word for day in Genesis 1 means anything other than a 24 hour day, a stupid heresy that is easily destroy by looking at what was created in every 24 hour day.

Day tree, grass and herbs created, sun not created until day four, so if a day is thousands of years or millions how did the grass and herbs survive? :D

A person must be very twisted and stupid to believe that shit that the 24 hours days of Genesis are anything but 24 hour days.

Also talk about a slow God :D
"Yawn" I think I'll let it go 24000 years until I create this next thing. I mean that shit is something the "god" of islam would do, that sucker don't even know if it took him 6 or 8 days to create :D

The number 7 here is the point of the creation 6 days work 1 day of rest, else we'd get like a million years off if a day is say a million years, most of the freeloaders on this planet apparently think that is the case :D
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Ok let's look at what you said here , that It is stupid heresy to think that the 24 hours meant any other thing than 24 hours .


Well here is a heratic by your standards , his name was Simon Peter , he was an apostle of Yashua .

2Peter 2:8 KJV
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So now that we have determined you are ignorant by Gods standard , because one must remember that all scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit aka God the Father Aka Jesus the Christ .

When you call someone out at least have the testicular fortitude to cite the person you so vehemently attack in your ignorance of Gods Word and teachings .

Now if you would like a proper tutorial of Genesis and stop listening to the traditions of man which make void the word of God , I would be more than happy to help a Christian brother or sister to understand and erase the lies of mans churches instilpinyin upon your brain since childhood , I too was ignorant like yourself until the Holy Spirit freed me of mans religion and guided me to the truth of the WORD aka Jesus .peace .
 Quoting: Azadok61


thank you, Father! Your spirit is moving and shaping minds, be with us as we expose this evil doctrine!
“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”

Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians 3:29
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I cannot understand how people keep on arguing about these theories.

I believe in evolution, that humans evolved from other creatures, and i believe in God. I believe in the Bible and as It says, how and when God created man. I guess it is all about the translation of the Bible.

Who are you to decide how long was a day in God's terms of creating? Who are you to decide how and what method God creates man?
 Quoting: far&away


this is called loosely reading bible, and corrupt it to what you want.

it says adam was created by G-d's own hands straight from earth.
nothing about evolving from other animals.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 3


Also this person tries to say that the word for day in Genesis 1 means anything other than a 24 hour day, a stupid heresy that is easily destroy by looking at what was created in every 24 hour day.

Day tree, grass and herbs created, sun not created until day four, so if a day is thousands of years or millions how did the grass and herbs survive? :D

A person must be very twisted and stupid to believe that shit that the 24 hours days of Genesis are anything but 24 hour days.

Also talk about a slow God :D
"Yawn" I think I'll let it go 24000 years until I create this next thing. I mean that shit is something the "god" of islam would do, that sucker don't even know if it took him 6 or 8 days to create :D

The number 7 here is the point of the creation 6 days work 1 day of rest, else we'd get like a million years off if a day is say a million years, most of the freeloaders on this planet apparently think that is the case :D
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Ok let's look at what you said here , that It is stupid heresy to think that the 24 hours meant any other thing than 24 hours .


Well here is a heratic by your standards , his name was Simon Peter , he was an apostle of Yashua .

2Peter 2:8 KJV
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So now that we have determined you are ignorant by Gods standard , because one must remember that all scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit aka God the Father Aka Jesus the Christ .

When you call someone out at least have the testicular fortitude to cite the person you so vehemently attack in your ignorance of Gods Word and teachings .

Now if you would like a proper tutorial of Genesis and stop listening to the traditions of man which make void the word of God , I would be more than happy to help a Christian brother or sister to understand and erase the lies of mans churches instilpinyin upon your brain since childhood , I too was ignorant like yourself until the Holy Spirit freed me of mans religion and guided me to the truth of the WORD aka Jesus .peace .
 Quoting: Azadok61



I would really like to know where to start. I was raised catholic and attended ccd. I fully believe the bible was changed many times. I was going to read the KJV, but I don't know if even that can be trusted.

Either way i'll probably give it a try. I believe the Catholic religion is the Babylonian mystery religion. So many things that I was taught can be traced back to that religion and they aren't mentioned in the Bible whatsoever. To think that all these supposed houses of God are the exact opposite.
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Therapsids. Look 'em up, OP.

There's your proof.
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Not good enough.

1. Mutations do not produce new purposeful genetic information.

2. Evolution of a new species as a result of new genetic code arising has never been observed.

3. There is no known proven mechanism that can explain how new purposeful genetic information could arise, and statistically it is impossible.

4. There is no known proven mechanism that can explain all the steps for a living cell to form from nonliving molecules (abiogenesis), and statistically it is impossible.

5. Abiogenesis has never been observed and all experiments to initiate it have failed.

6. The fossil record is a record of extinction of fully formed animals and plants --- not a record of the evolution of life forms.

7. There are no fossils of proven mutant evolutionary intermediate organisms, yet there should be millions and millions of fossils of such mutations. That is, we have no evidence of actual evolution in the fossil record.

8. Some of the oldest fossil-bearing rocks contain fully developed advanced animals such as trilobites, with no evidence of evolutionary ancestors.

9. There are not enough ocean sediments or volcanic deposits for the continents to be old enough to allow for supposed evolution.

10. Radiometric dating results give old ages for recent rocks, so we cannot accurately "know" the age of rocks. Also, the finding of carbon-14 in coal and diamonds means that these deposits must be less than 100,000 years old, indicating insufficient time for supposed evolution.

11. The rate of mutation of DNA currently observed suggests that DNA must be less than 100,000 years old, which is not enough time for supposed evolution.


Evolution is false, wrong, and impossible.

Class dismissed.
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this is called loosely reading bible, and corrupt it to what you want.

it says adam was created by G-d's own hands straight from earth.
nothing about evolving from other animals.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 3


Also this person tries to say that the word for day in Genesis 1 means anything other than a 24 hour day, a stupid heresy that is easily destroy by looking at what was created in every 24 hour day.

Day tree, grass and herbs created, sun not created until day four, so if a day is thousands of years or millions how did the grass and herbs survive? :D

A person must be very twisted and stupid to believe that shit that the 24 hours days of Genesis are anything but 24 hour days.

Also talk about a slow God :D
"Yawn" I think I'll let it go 24000 years until I create this next thing. I mean that shit is something the "god" of islam would do, that sucker don't even know if it took him 6 or 8 days to create :D

The number 7 here is the point of the creation 6 days work 1 day of rest, else we'd get like a million years off if a day is say a million years, most of the freeloaders on this planet apparently think that is the case :D
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Ok let's look at what you said here , that It is stupid heresy to think that the 24 hours meant any other thing than 24 hours .


Well here is a heratic by your standards , his name was Simon Peter , he was an apostle of Yashua .

2Peter 2:8 KJV
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So now that we have determined you are ignorant by Gods standard , because one must remember that all scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit aka God the Father Aka Jesus the Christ .

When you call someone out at least have the testicular fortitude to cite the person you so vehemently attack in your ignorance of Gods Word and teachings .

Now if you would like a proper tutorial of Genesis and stop listening to the traditions of man which make void the word of God , I would be more than happy to help a Christian brother or sister to understand and erase the lies of mans churches instilpinyin upon your brain since childhood , I too was ignorant like yourself until the Holy Spirit freed me of mans religion and guided me to the truth of the WORD aka Jesus .peace .
 Quoting: Azadok61



I would really like to know where to start. I was raised catholic and attended ccd. I fully believe the bible was changed many times. I was going to read the KJV, but I don't know if even that can be trusted.

Either way i'll probably give it a try. I believe the Catholic religion is the Babylonian mystery religion. So many things that I was taught can be traced back to that religion and they aren't mentioned in the Bible whatsoever. To think that all these supposed houses of God are the exact opposite.
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The NASB or the KJV with a Strongs concordance or better yet a companion bible. Start there and I wouldnt steer you wrong. I'm a Texan.

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Nikola Tesla

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects.

Nikola Tesla



If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians 3:29
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I've never heard or a Strongs concordance, or the other Bible you mentioned. I'm looking forward to reading whatever I buy.

I'll find out what that is, Thank You.
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Therapsids. Look 'em up, OP.

There's your proof.
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Not good enough.

1. Mutations do not produce new purposeful genetic information.

2. Evolution of a new species as a result of new genetic code arising has never been observed.

3. There is no known proven mechanism that can explain how new purposeful genetic information could arise, and statistically it is impossible.

4. There is no known proven mechanism that can explain all the steps for a living cell to form from nonliving molecules (abiogenesis), and statistically it is impossible.

5. Abiogenesis has never been observed and all experiments to initiate it have failed.

6. The fossil record is a record of extinction of fully formed animals and plants --- not a record of the evolution of life forms.

7. There are no fossils of proven mutant evolutionary intermediate organisms, yet there should be millions and millions of fossils of such mutations. That is, we have no evidence of actual evolution in the fossil record.

8. Some of the oldest fossil-bearing rocks contain fully developed advanced animals such as trilobites, with no evidence of evolutionary ancestors.

9. There are not enough ocean sediments or volcanic deposits for the continents to be old enough to allow for supposed evolution.

10. Radiometric dating results give old ages for recent rocks, so we cannot accurately "know" the age of rocks. Also, the finding of carbon-14 in coal and diamonds means that these deposits must be less than 100,000 years old, indicating insufficient time for supposed evolution.

11. The rate of mutation of DNA currently observed suggests that DNA must be less than 100,000 years old, which is not enough time for supposed evolution.


Evolution is false, wrong, and impossible.

Class dismissed.
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Nikola Tesla



If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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Given that we all share the same mitochondrial DNA going all the way back to Mitochondrial Eve and that our genetic structure is roughly 50% similar to a banana? And given that carbon based DNA is roughly 8 billion years old and the earth is about half that old? Yes, I'd say it would be silly not to accept that our cellular ancestors probably ended up here by riding on space dust.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


So life came from a single celled organism and through eons of time time and chance mutations of DNA became all that is today.

Open your mind and I will show you a wonder. Set aside preconceived notions and just read and let your mind take it in just as it is.

"time" and "chance" are inventions of man. Time was invented by man because he is finite. Time does not exist to God. God is I AM.

Now "chance". Flip a coin and it's either heads or tails. 50-50 "chance". What if you knew the exact pressure to apply to the coin, the wind, barometric pressure, the moments of the heavenly bodies, all creation, everything.....you could make it land on heads every. Single. Time. God is not held to chance. There is no such thing as chance or time to God Almighty. These are man made, propagated by Satan through gambling.

We are much more powerful than we know.

FREE YOUR MIND!

FAITH, COMPLETE AND TOTAL, IS THE KEY!
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Ok, so now you've gone from evolution and genetics to quantum physics...something else you have misrepresented.

Time is a construct, a measurement of distance creating a 4th dimension of space. It is not real in the sense that without physical matter which can decay it has no purpose. But anything operating in the 3rd dimensional or physical universe is affected in some way by time. Hence relativity.

Come on, man. You're just making your argument look worse. Go learn about this stuff before you try to talk about it.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


How about I show you another wonder since you seem to grasp quantum reality. God is everywhere. Your thoughts have weight and affect your surroundings.

Flip a coin 100 times giving no thought or care which side it lands on and record the results.

Flip the coin again 100 times each time saying heads heads heads or tails tails tails, your pick, but only think of the one or the other exclusively.

Your results will not be 50-50. The numbers will tend to reflect the side you wished for. It must be an honest attempt. The open mind should have no problem with this.

Try it. Broaden your mind.
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Listen, man...I have never said and will never say that "god does not exist." The existence of an omnipotent deity may seem unlikely to me. It may seem silly. But I won't say it because I can't know that for sure.

But I will say that evolution is an occurring phenomenon in nature. To me, that has nothing to do with the existence or nonexistence of god. Let's just get that straight. I'm not arguing with you about god. Just facts of science.
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Re: Newton's Own destroys forever the theory of evolution. Ask me a question evolution adhearants
Therapsids. Look 'em up, OP.

There's your proof.
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Not good enough.

1. Mutations do not produce new purposeful genetic information.

2. Evolution of a new species as a result of new genetic code arising has never been observed.

3. There is no known proven mechanism that can explain how new purposeful genetic information could arise, and statistically it is impossible.

4. There is no known proven mechanism that can explain all the steps for a living cell to form from nonliving molecules (abiogenesis), and statistically it is impossible.

5. Abiogenesis has never been observed and all experiments to initiate it have failed.

6. The fossil record is a record of extinction of fully formed animals and plants --- not a record of the evolution of life forms.

7. There are no fossils of proven mutant evolutionary intermediate organisms, yet there should be millions and millions of fossils of such mutations. That is, we have no evidence of actual evolution in the fossil record.

8. Some of the oldest fossil-bearing rocks contain fully developed advanced animals such as trilobites, with no evidence of evolutionary ancestors.

9. There are not enough ocean sediments or volcanic deposits for the continents to be old enough to allow for supposed evolution.

10. Radiometric dating results give old ages for recent rocks, so we cannot accurately "know" the age of rocks. Also, the finding of carbon-14 in coal and diamonds means that these deposits must be less than 100,000 years old, indicating insufficient time for supposed evolution.

11. The rate of mutation of DNA currently observed suggests that DNA must be less than 100,000 years old, which is not enough time for supposed evolution.


Evolution is false, wrong, and impossible.

Class dismissed.
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Everything you just wrote is unsubstantiated.

Some of it is flat out untrue.
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Re: Newton's Own destroys forever the theory of evolution. Ask me a question evolution adhearants
Here's the bottom line:

You creationist lot have absolutely no evidence to support what you are preaching. Rather, all the available evidence stands against your argument. You can keep saying whatever you want but the fact is that currently your theory is a dying one and by definition cannot be proven.

Believe what you want. But quit shoving it in people's faces and saying it makes sense. Because it doesn't.

Signing off.
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Re: Newton's Own destroys forever the theory of evolution. Ask me a question evolution adhearants
It's becoming clear that people who do not accept evolution as a reality are people who do not have any understanding of the process by which it occurs.

You keep saying, "Organisms don't just change into other organisms."

And you're right. They don't. That is not how evolution works.

When an organism undergoes a genetic mutation (this happens randomly and it happens all the time) that organism is by definition genetically different than its predecessors. If said mutation proves to be advantageous to that organism's survival, then it is able to outlive its predecessors and pass along its mutation to its offspring. Thus a new genetic type emerges and spreads. Now all these offspring which have retained this mutation can go and procreate and spread the gene even further. The longer this goes on, the more pronounced and defined the mutation becomes until it is no longer considered a mutation and can be regarded as a new species. This is in fact necessary to prevent inbreeding.

You must realize that this has been going on at the most basic cellular level since the beginning of carbon based life. It is why we have nucleic DNA and mitochondrial DNA. Originally a mitochondria was a seperate cell with a life of its own. It was eventually incorporated into eukaryotic cells which developed a symbiotic relationship with the mitochondria and allowed them to benefit from mitochondrial energy production. To this day we still have mitochondrial DNA separate from our cell nuclei. There is no way to explain this beyond genetic mutation and evolution,
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

The theory that genetic mutations result in a transition from one species to a completely different species cannot be and has not been proved. Hybrids are never fertile, eliminating that mechanism of change. A species can reproduce viable, fertile offspring only with it's own kind. A mutant is as far as science has been able to prove is always the same species as the parent. The only difference is a defect in genetics. While it is possible this defect could be beneficial (not proved!), the mutant is still the same species as the parent, able to reproduce with others of it's species. If this were not so, even the evolutionists would be forced to admit evolution was impossible!

What we see in reality is that mutations and 'mistakes' in genetic coding always result in inferior, defective organisms that are much less likely to survive. While these defects can survive in recessive genes, they do not tend to do well. Viewed from a scientific perspective, macro evolution is a ridiculous IDEA THAT DOES NOT REACH THE THRESHOLD NECESSARY TO BE CALLED A VALID THEORY with absolutely not a shred of evidence supporting it. All actual scientific evidence indicates that evolution of one species from another cannot and does not occur. the fossil record provides extensive proof evolution of one species from another has never occurred, not even once





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