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Message Subject Newton's Own destroys forever the theory of evolution. Ask me a question evolution adhearants
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I have no choice but to ascribe suffering to God, as He is the grand designer. And *They* do not create the distrust, *God* creates the distrust. He is the arbiter of *Reality.* His is the *ultimate* responsibility.

As I pointed out before: Perhaps imagine a Heaven and a Hell--dream up a reward and punishment that will somehow magically balance the books, so to write? The problem remains the extent and severity of the suffering. If die she must, far quicker and less-severe methods do end a tyke's existence. Forced listening of country-western music, for example. Children do, unfortunately, ask what the did wrong to be punished by such a condition. What "reward" balances it? Is it greater than that obtained by children who die of leukemia, car accidents, and falling masonry? Why? Furthermore, that one imagines a Mengele horribly tortured throughout eternity--something involving fish hooks and Patsy Cline--does not justify the extensive and severe suffering of the child. Finally, if some grand argumentum ad ignorantiam of a "reward" exists, why do not the children who die of the less-horrible leukemia and steam rollers deserve it?

Therefore, since No Alleviation of such Unjustified Suffering occurred, we are left with Five Possible Choices regarding deities:

1. No Deity Exists
2. A Deity Exists and He is Evil
3. A Deity Exists and He is Incompetent
4. A Deity Exists and He is Irrelevant
5. A Deity Exists and He is Some Combination of 2-4

All are, of course, free to choose from any one of the five.

If you have a *logical* alternative, please describe it.
 Quoting: 74444


You need to read Job if you presume to know the mind of God or to be able to rebuke him in your created mind.
 Quoting: Donkey Jaw


yeah, job is a great example to where "god" is an evil bastard and a great story as to why not a single person should worship such a deity. "hey satan, let's make a bet between you and i about this dude. i'll let you kill his family and tortue him"

funny thing is that the job story is the only example in the bible where satan is given power by god to kill people. i think satan in the bible killed like 10 people. yet god killed millions/billions? but hey, let's worship him anyways!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59626666


How did Job end, pray tell? How do you think the wise man Job was, upon his physcial death, and, seeing through immortal eyes, felt then about his Divinely Appointed example to influence the lives of billions of others for the will of his Loving Almighty God? The wise man would have humbled himself and thanked God for the honor of using him for good and the fruition of his will.

Food for thought.
 Quoting: Newton's Own


Yes. The beaten housewife, again. Thank you Lord for killing my wife and my children to make a point to Lucifer. Such an honor being the tortured soul for such a noble reason as showing up the Fallen One, and allowing the Lord to say 'I told you, so.'

Those were certainly acts of Divine Love. I love you, Big Brother.

Now, would you kindly please directly address my earlier post and points? Do you have a logical way to deal with the Pontine proof? Or will you ignore the proof once again instead?
 
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