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We ALL need to fucking forget what color a person is when these police killings happen. They're a common enemy of us all.
And I don't know how I could overstress this, but if you are tricked into getting behind an officially sanctioned murder because of racism , you're dumber than a box of rocks. Them Negroes have EXACTLY the same right under the law you do, and if the cops can kill them, they can kill you under the same circumstances you give the okee dokee for.
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We ALL need to fucking forget what color a person is when these police killings happen. They're a common enemy of us all.
And I don't know how I could overstress this, but if you are tricked into getting behind an officially sanctioned murder because of racism , you're dumber than a box of rocks. Them Negroes have EXACTLY the same right under the law you do, and if the cops can kill them, they can kill you under the same circumstances you give the okee dokee for.
 Quoting: IDW 65797983


Amen!!!

A voice of reason!!!

FFS, why is this so hard to comprehend these days. Sad, sad times we are living in. Ugh!
~*Ride the Wave*~
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Here is a protest poster for ya (somebody can make) ~

"SHOOT FIRST, AND LET THE GOVERNMENT ASK QUESTIONS OF ITSELF LATER"
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Today's Grand Jury process.


The case of Mike Brown is a great deal less apparent and is primarily one of he said/she said, and God only knows after 3 autopsies, and witnesses changing statements etc.

But for sure, cops increasingly playing Judge, Jury, and EXECUTIONER is not RIGHT and needs to be STOPPED! Unless you desire a Judge Dredd future.

Time to get back to using restraint with non-lethal measures, weapons, and tactics until or unless it can be demonstrably shown one's life was/is in jeopardy apart from the Grand Jury essentially investigating itself (our current situation).......which means going to trial if necessary.

but you see, TPTB know society is falling apart (no thanks to their own meddling) and there won't be enough trials nor jails for everyone they wish to push into a corner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29656501


The prosecutor in Wilson's case acted with a total lack of integrity when he screened witnesses that incriminated Wilson and acted as his attorney during the process. It would have been an automatic indictment for ANY citizen. It's not at all surprising, but it is sickening. that prosecutor should be tried for conspiracy after the fact in murder. When you conspire to conceal facts or obstruct justice in a murder case, you're an accomplice to that murder. And that goddamned prosecutor is just as guilty as Wilson
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ALL police killings should be investigated by an investigative team totally independent from the agency that policeman is employed by. The grand jury should be convened with a change of venue and the prosecutor who works with the cop accused of the murder barred from acting as prosecutor. What we need to have is police killings investigated as civil rights violations by a federal agency create specifically for that dedicated task. It is obvious that is a police officer murders a citizen while representation the state/local/federal government that it is a civil rights violation. it is an unwritten right to be allowed to live.
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Feds investigating Feds or even local law enforcement? I don't think so. In essence the Feds already investigate the Feds when you understand just how many local law enforcement jurisdictions are coming under FEDERAL FUSION CENTERS and these g-damn cameras they are talking about will merely be used to uplink back to the FEDS to ensure even more compliance.....

What we need are truly independent agencies (more than one) working under the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.
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We ALL need to fucking forget what color a person is when these police killings happen. They're a common enemy of us all.
And I don't know how I could overstress this, but if you are tricked into getting behind an officially sanctioned murder because of racism , you're dumber than a box of rocks. Them Negroes have EXACTLY the same right under the law you do, and if the cops can kill them, they can kill you under the same circumstances you give the okee dokee for.
 Quoting: IDW 65797983


Amen!!!

A voice of reason!!!

FFS, why is this so hard to comprehend these days. Sad, sad times we are living in. Ugh!
 Quoting: Simple27


Hate blinds you if you let it. It also tends to be self destructive. You can hate black people if you want to, but you have to be blind to race when justice is involved because like it or not all races have the same rights under the law. If they lose theirs, we lose ours at the exact same moment.
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ALL police killings should be investigated by an investigative team totally independent from the agency that policeman is employed by. The grand jury should be convened with a change of venue and the prosecutor who works with the cop accused of the murder barred from acting as prosecutor. What we need to have is police killings investigated as civil rights violations by a federal agency create specifically for that dedicated task. It is obvious that is a police officer murders a citizen while representation the state/local/federal government that it is a civil rights violation. it is an unwritten right to be allowed to live.
 Quoting: IDW 65797983




Feds investigating Feds or even local law enforcement? I don't think so. In essence the Feds already investigate the Feds when you understand just how many local law enforcement jurisdictions are coming under FEDERAL FUSION CENTERS and these g-damn cameras they are talking about will merely be used to uplink back to the FEDS to ensure even more compliance.....

What we need are truly independent agencies (more than one) working under the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.
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Other than that, I am basically with you.
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Yes, JUSTICE IS BLIND! AND YET CAN SEE ALL ANGLES CLEARLY!
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ALL police killings should be investigated by an investigative team totally independent from the agency that policeman is employed by. The grand jury should be convened with a change of venue and the prosecutor who works with the cop accused of the murder barred from acting as prosecutor. What we need to have is police killings investigated as civil rights violations by a federal agency create specifically for that dedicated task. It is obvious that is a police officer murders a citizen while representation the state/local/federal government that it is a civil rights violation. it is an unwritten right to be allowed to live.
 Quoting: IDW 65797983




Feds investigating Feds or even local law enforcement? I don't think so. In essence the Feds already investigate the Feds when you understand just how many local law enforcement jurisdictions are coming under FEDERAL FUSION CENTERS and these g-damn cameras they are talking about will merely be used to uplink back to the FEDS to ensure even more compliance.....

What we need are truly independent agencies (more than one) working under the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.
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Under perfect conditions a murder by a government employee of a citizen would be prosecuted by persons totally independent of the government. The problem is, there is no Constitutional provisions for that. There could be vigilante justice, where citizens take the law into their own hands and kill officers guilty of murder in acts of revenge, and the problem with that is the trial part of it isn't there. The government is treating us as an enemy combatant more or less, in fact many of these police killings that are ruled as justified would see a soldier convicted of murder by court martial, IN A GODDAMNED WAR ZONE! What it amounts to is that the police ARE doing their job when they murder a citizen who is resisting their will in any way in the governments minds, they are keeping an increasingly dissatisfied and angry citizenry under the boot of tyranny by enforcing oppression with threats of violence or death. It's that simple, really.
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ALL police killings should be investigated by an investigative team totally independent from the agency that policeman is employed by. The grand jury should be convened with a change of venue and the prosecutor who works with the cop accused of the murder barred from acting as prosecutor. What we need to have is police killings investigated as civil rights violations by a federal agency create specifically for that dedicated task. It is obvious that is a police officer murders a citizen while representation the state/local/federal government that it is a civil rights violation. it is an unwritten right to be allowed to live.
 Quoting: IDW 65797983




Feds investigating Feds or even local law enforcement? I don't think so. In essence the Feds already investigate the Feds when you understand just how many local law enforcement jurisdictions are coming under FEDERAL FUSION CENTERS and these g-damn cameras they are talking about will merely be used to uplink back to the FEDS to ensure even more compliance.....

What we need are truly independent agencies (more than one) working under the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.
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Other than that, I am basically with you.
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It all goes back to the comment I made about a coach, he obviously isn't going to try to get a penalty called on his own player, even if he breaks someones neck on the other team. The government is one team and we are the other, and the justice system is the referees. The referees are playing on the governments team

cruise.
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We ALL need to fucking forget what color a person is when these police killings happen. They're a common enemy of us all.
And I don't know how I could overstress this, but if you are tricked into getting behind an officially sanctioned murder because of racism , you're dumber than a box of rocks. Them Negroes have EXACTLY the same right under the law you do, and if the cops can kill them, they can kill you under the same circumstances you give the okee dokee for.
 Quoting: IDW 65797983


u gottit and they kill lots of their own
this is a whole dumbass nightmare brought to u by the ms goebbels press
dumb as rocks .....
and the "beatdown" goes on
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We ALL need to fucking forget what color a person is when these police killings happen. They're a common enemy of us all.
And I don't know how I could overstress this, but if you are tricked into getting behind an officially sanctioned murder because of racism , you're dumber than a box of rocks. Them Negroes have EXACTLY the same right under the law you do, and if the cops can kill them, they can kill you under the same circumstances you give the okee dokee for.
 Quoting: IDW 65797983


Amen!!!

A voice of reason!!!

FFS, why is this so hard to comprehend these days. Sad, sad times we are living in. Ugh!
 Quoting: Simple27


THIS to both!
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One thing these fuckers doing this shit know is the two emotions that make it easy to shut down someones thinking are fear and hate. If you hate someone, you're going to be happy when something bad happens to them and they know it. So they trick the white racist majority into getting behind a series of blatant murders by police and it becomes the new standard of behavior by police in their engagements with ALL citizens.

it is no coincidence all of these outrageous killings involve black men (or little boys) getting killed by white cops. The tendency is for whites to just say "good riddance, who cares?"

Most people have already been fooled into believing police have rights of self defense that extend to blowing someone away because they had something that LOOKS like a gun. That is simply not true. What they don't seem to even be realizing is having a gun is not a crime in the first place , and it is not probable cause nor does it justify use of deadly force. If it did all cops would be filled full of lead.
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If you're not in violation of the law and not under arrest, a police officer has no right to command you to do ANYTHING He has to have seen you commit a crime, have a warrant, or have probable cause to believe a crime has been committed to attempt an arrest.Absent any of those criteria, you're not required to even acknowledge they are speaking to you and can resist any attempt to arrest you. Cops are taught this in training, and it scares them, and they DON'T want you to know it.

. I know, it's how I live, every day. If a cop says something to me I pretend I am deaf and continue on my way, and it works. I consider all police an enemy combatant. i have to. because that's how they see us.

In fact, if a police officer engages in an attempt to arrest you and you haven't committed a crime , if he doesn't have a warrant or probable cause, you can legally resist arrest USING WHATEVER FORCE IS NECESSARY. Since police are armed with deadly weapons, the only force that could possible effectively resist such an arrest is deadly force. So this is the answer, we have to start shooting back, and every time a cop violates the law by oppressing us we need to resist it!

In the case of Brown , he was justified in KILLING Wilson as soon as he tried to back over him with a truck. The fact that Brown "stole" cigars and Wilson was a police officer could not possibly enter into a juries verdict judging Browns guilt for killing Wilson if he had, it's called an extraneous offense and cannot be brought up at trial unless.It can't enter into Wilson's guilt in killing Brown either. If he'd been put on trial, they wouldn't even have been allowed to tell the jury Brown had committed a theft, it would have been supressed. That's why police never let a copkiler get to trial, because most shootings of cops by citizens are undoubtedly self defense. The fact a person committed a crime does not justify use of deadly force. Th only thing that justifies deadly force is self defense. Police have often shot people attempting to use cars to run them down and no one even thinks twice about whether they had that right, so Brown had it too, it's obviously a deadly weapon.
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One thing these fuckers doing this shit know is the two emotions that make it easy to shut down someones thinking are fear and hate. If you hate someone, you're going to be happy when something bad happens to them and they know it. So they trick the white racist majority into getting behind a series of blatant murders by police and it becomes the new standard of behavior by police in their engagements with ALL citizens.

it is no coincidence all of these outrageous killings involve black men (or little boys) getting killed by white cops. The tendency is for whites to just say "good riddance, who cares?"

Most people have already been fooled into believing police have rights of self defense that extend to blowing someone away because they had something that LOOKS like a gun. That is simply not true. What they don't seem to even be realizing is having a gun is not a crime in the first place , and it is not probable cause nor does it justify use of deadly force. If it did all cops would be filled full of lead.
cruise


If you're not in violation of the law and not under arrest, a police officer has no right to command you to do ANYTHING He has to have seen you commit a crime, have a warrant, or have probable cause to believe a crime has been committed to attempt an arrest.Absent any of those criteria, you're not required to even acknowledge they are speaking to you and can resist any attempt to arrest you. Cops are taught this in training, and it scares them, and they DON'T want you to know it.

. I know, it's how I live, every day. If a cop says something to me I pretend I am deaf and continue on my way, and it works. I consider all police an enemy combatant. i have to. because that's how they see us.

In fact, if a police officer engages in an attempt to arrest you and you haven't committed a crime , if he doesn't have a warrant or probable cause, you can legally resist arrest USING WHATEVER FORCE IS NECESSARY. Since police are armed with deadly weapons, the only force that could possible effectively resist such an arrest is deadly force. So this is the answer, we have to start shooting back, and every time a cop violates the law by oppressing us we need to resist it!

In the case of Brown , he was justified in KILLING Wilson as soon as he tried to back over him with a truck. The fact that Brown "stole" cigars and Wilson was a police officer could not possibly enter into a juries verdict judging Browns guilt for killing Wilson if he had, it's called an extraneous offense and cannot be brought up at trial unless.It can't enter into Wilson's guilt in killing Brown either. If he'd been put on trial, they wouldn't even have been allowed to tell the jury Brown had committed a theft, it would have been supressed. That's why police never let a copkiler get to trial, because most shootings of cops by citizens are undoubtedly self defense. The fact a person committed a crime does not justify use of deadly force. Th only thing that justifies deadly force is self defense. Police have often shot people attempting to use cars to run them down and no one even thinks twice about whether they had that right, so Brown had it too, it's obviously a deadly weapon.
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LOL. Those are all wonderful ideas in theory. I will not test them though. I don't care what cops are taught in training.. out in the field it's a different story and I wouldn't try to resist arrest or "not even acknowledge they are speaking to me." Just use some FUCKING common sense, don't break fucking laws and you will live through your next police encounter.
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I miss it...but I'm a southern girl and just wanted warmer weather. It was a tough choice after 15 years because I loved Boston I definitely could have done Maine. I'm a cold-hearted bitch myself but I was tired of shoveling snow. Lol.

No worries....apparently I'm surrounded by Massholes here who couldn't take the snow anymore either ;)
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YOU clearly kick ass!!!

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Nah.....but YOU do!!! We still need to figure out our six degrees of separation from the north shore lol!
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That's murder, under color of law. In Missouri he gets the gas chamber for it
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You walk a fine line IDW... think about it. The media, which is controlled by a certain group of people I think we all know your opinion about, are the ones that are fanning the flames in the Brown and Garner incidents. If they wanted these stories to go away, they would.

It is intentional, and there is an agenda at play.
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yawn

I need a coffee...

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If you're not in violation of the law and not under arrest, a police officer has no right to command you to do ANYTHING He has to have seen you commit a crime, have a warrant, or have probable cause to believe a crime has been committed to attempt an arrest.Absent any of those criteria, you're not required to even acknowledge they are speaking to you and can resist any attempt to arrest you.
 Quoting: IDW 65797983


This is the real issue at hand here, and this is the reason I don't support the protesters.

The media is brainwashing people into thinking that the problem is racism, when it's really what you stated above. And they are buying it hook, line, and sinker.

Don't forget that it is communists that are busing in the professional protesters and doing the top level organization of these marches.

Do you really think they want the police to have less power? That's not their endgame here, and if you think it is then maybe you're the one who hasn't been paying enough attention.
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yawn

I need a coffee...

Where is the sun?
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I'm just glad I didn't break into my doom whiskey. I have enough of a headache as is...

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Looks like some real deep conversations in here last night.
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The Pin brought in the curious.
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The Pin brought in the curious.
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My fault.
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Rain, rain go away.

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I would rather snow.
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Walsh has no plans to stop 'Black Lives Matter' protests

BOSTON (WHDH) - Mayor Walsh spoke out Saturday about the waves of Boston protestors who have been reacting to two recent, controversial grand jury decisions.

The mayor said he has no plans to stop the protests.

[link to www.whdh.com]
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Walsh has no plans to stop 'Black Lives Matter' protests

BOSTON (WHDH) - Mayor Walsh spoke out Saturday about the waves of Boston protestors who have been reacting to two recent, controversial grand jury decisions.

The mayor said he has no plans to stop the protests.

[link to www.whdh.com]
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I guess flash mobs showing up when you go out shopping downtown. But it's O.K. the mayor said so.
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Walsh has no plans to stop 'Black Lives Matter' protests

BOSTON (WHDH) - Mayor Walsh spoke out Saturday about the waves of Boston protestors who have been reacting to two recent, controversial grand jury decisions.

The mayor said he has no plans to stop the protests.

[link to www.whdh.com]
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I guess flash mobs showing up when you go out shopping downtown. But it's O.K. the mayor said so.
 Quoting: WhatsItAllAbout Alfie


During the Christmas season...and the $$$ they'll lose due to people not wanting to go out shopping...

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Wonder where the OP is tonight? Maybe last nights excitement was too much.

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Wonder where the OP is tonight? Maybe last nights excitement was too much.


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OMFG that video is HILARIOUS!!!

I'm sharing it everywhere!

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Wonder where the OP is tonight? Maybe last nights excitement was too much.


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Between the wobbly pops and the amount of feeds I was monitoring, I would say that it's a pretty accurate depiction of me last night.

But it was a blown front differential in my truck, not a doom hangover, that had my attention for most of today. I learned the hard way that cutting the wheel when buried frame deep in mud to gain traction in fact gains enough traction to blow apart spider gears. Oops...

But now for some good news... we're now being trusted to pump gas like adults in the rest of the country!!!


New Fire Code Will Allow ‘Hold-Open’ Clips on Gas Station Pumps

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