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rumble I'm being serious. Their perilous journey north was like a test for weeding out the weak, just like the journey across the Atlantic that Eastern Europeans had to make back at the beginning of the last century. Their work ethic is also closer to what American's used to be known for, as opposed to the fat, lazy, stupid, television and corn syrup addicted slugs we're known to be now.

Fact is, they're better than the majority of us. Would you travel across jungles and deserts infested with human and drug trafficers for a better chance at life? I know at the very least, the majority of Americans wouldn't.

You want to complain about government money being spent on them? I refuse to listen to your complaints until the far larger amount of money being spent on Corporate Welfare is properly addressed. I'd rather spend that money on the illegal immigrants, because they're still human and are TRULY starving, rather than the crony capitalists who are REALLY destroying this nation. If you're turning more of your attention to the starving illegals than the fat cat cronies it only shows how much racism you harbor.
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You want to complain about diseases? Why? They are diseased people who need to be helped. You seem to think the only option is to chase them back out like they're lepers or something, when you could be, you know, treating them? We won't have new epidemics if we treat them. But you'd rather see them suffer, because of the racism you harbor.


But what I really want to get across to you is how you're being manipulated by those who want to use this crisis for their own goals. We know about Obama's ties with La Rasa and how he's funding them to increase racial tension over the immigrant issue. It's just like how he and his media tried their best to increase racial tensions over the Travon Martin case. They want to cause chaos because that will allow them to achieve their goals, but the immigrants are not looking to cause chaos, they're just unwittingly being used, just like you guys are when you let your hatred boil over. Because it's going to take two parties to create enough chaos for the Feds to step in, and you Patriots are one of the targeted parties.

Also the immigrants don't want to live off of welfare if they don't have to. A lot of illegal immigrants actually have surrogates turn in their tax revenue to the IRS because they want to do the right thing, but can't because of their illegal status. The democrats DO want more hispanics in the country because they want to keep them impoverished and on their dole, thus keeping them voting democrat just like they've done to the black community, but it doesn't have to be that way. If we open our arms and provide them the means of making money they will go for it and turn themselves into proper middle class Americans, but the right wing's stigma against them will only hold them back.

My suggestion is to support the new immigrants the most you can, both monetarily if you can and by simply accepting them. Instead of basing your politics on excluding them from the country, you should view the immigrants as potential new members of your party. Reach out to them and they will respond, but at the moment, of course they will go democrat because they republicans disapprove of their existence.

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Who knew I could copy and paste this post from one dumbasses thread to another

We have a very specific immigration system now. No one would care who came in the country legally but these scum invaders are being brought here to violate our soverignty .

You think a 8 year old walked from honduras to texas ? If so you are a dumb muddafugga . They are being brought here.


And they when they become of age ( and those who already are due to the fact a child is being classified as anyone upto the age of 31 ) will be used as a weaponized voter base and vote how they are told by the marxist oligarchs that brought them here to override the will of the people who are citizens of this country .

On top of that reports of these scum children showing up to school with EBT cards will further collapse our already faltering economy .

Will work for peanuts.

Will further extract the wealth of this country by sending their wages " home" .

And will make the american citizen obsolete due to their willingness to work for substandard wages.

Which in turn will cause a mass homelessness epidemic of americans whos jobs are being taken.


Go read a freakin book or something . Do some math . SOMETHING cause you are not very smart person
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obvious shill is obvious
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Who knew I could copy and paste this post from one dumbasses thread to another

We have a very specific immigration system now. No one would care who came in the country legally but these scum invaders are being brought here to violate our soverignty .

You think a 8 year old walked from honduras to texas ? If so you are a dumb muddafugga . They are being brought here.


And they when they become of age ( and those who already are due to the fact a child is being classified as anyone upto the age of 31 ) will be used as a weaponized voter base and vote how they are told by the marxist oligarchs that brought them here to override the will of the people who are citizens of this country .

On top of that reports of these scum children showing up to school with EBT cards will further collapse our already faltering economy .

Will work for peanuts.

Will further extract the wealth of this country by sending their wages " home" .

And will make the american citizen obsolete due to their willingness to work for substandard wages.

Which in turn will cause a mass homelessness epidemic of americans whos jobs are being taken.


Go read a freakin book or something . Do some math . SOMETHING cause you are not very smart person
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You didn't read or consider anything I said.

1st, who cares if we already have an immigration program in place, it doesn't accommodate modern circumstances. You act like it's set in stone or something. Real world pressures are what forces changes to the laws and this is exactly what's going on right now. If you're argument is that we're breaking the law by letting them in, then I'm simply saying we need to change the law.

2nd, they're not violating your fucking sovereignty. Their presence here isn't taking away any of your freedoms, period. The laws protecting your freedoms are still intact. If you start hunting them down like a bunch of racist red necks though, your freedoms will be in jeopardy.

3rd, yes they are being brought here, they pay to be brought here, but that still doesn't make the journey less scary or perilous. There doesn't need to be a conspiracy to ship them up here if they already have all the motivation to get here themselves. Also I've already said that I believe the Democrats are going to try to use them as a new voting base by making them dependent on welfare, BUT that will only be because the Republicans don't want to reach out to them. There would be A FUCKTON of Latino and Black republicans if the party would actually TRY to campaign for them. The only thing that keeps them voting Democrat is their dependence on the state, but the Republicans can provide them actual jobs if they'd stop pandering to racist whites. The new Latino voting base for the Democrats will only exist because the Republicans insisted on being exclusionary and racist. It'll be your own doing. Do the math, white people are going to become less and less dominate and there's nothing you can do about it, as such, the Republican party is going to become weaker and weaker if you continue forcing them to cater only to whites.

4th, So what if they work for peanuts? I walk around town and see tons of job openings. Of course I live near Denver, but that's the thing, all throughout American history you've had to go where the work was. "Go west young man" I think the old saying went. There're jobs a plenty and if we had a smarter minimum wage system we could have lower wages for smaller companies so they could hire more people and higher wages for larger companies to inject more wealth into Mainstreet. A minimum wage system that helps immigrants is actually something right up the Republican's alley that's worth campaigning for. So I don't want to hear about yer jobs. Move somewhere better if your current place is a shithole, that's what the immigrants did.. (once again, showing that they're better than you).

5th, who cares where they send their money? They can do whatever they want with it. They'll still want to live a nice life here in the states, they'll just want to work an extra job to send some disposable income back home.

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It's true that America was made and built by immigrants.. many of them illegal! There are certainly blurred lines over this I feel. I've worked alongside illegal workers whom I made friendships with and thought they were good people. Still I think they should of made a harder effort to learn English and take a citizenship test.

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It's true that America was made and built by immigrants.. many of them illegal! There are certainly blurred lines over this I feel. I've worked alongside illegal workers whom I made friendships with and thought they were good people. Still I think they should of made a harder effort to learn English and take a citizenship test.

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Understood. I think the Republicans, instead of basing their policy on making them go away, should base their policy on assimilation and promotion of culture. There's a fantastic opportunity for a compromise here where the Republicans can agree to Democratic demands of amnesty and more open boarders in exchange for finding ways of promoting English and American values to the immigrants.
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cuttheracistshit
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Shill!!!!
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'Violent gang taking advantage of immigration crisis, using border as recruiting hub'
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'Violent gang taking advantage of immigration crisis, using border as recruiting hub'
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no no no , the granola eating fag likes seeing his country invaded . Ms13 or not . Its all good.
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Thats nice, so you'll take care of all of them then?
It's only for about 20 years...
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'Violent gang taking advantage of immigration crisis, using border as recruiting hub'
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If some are gang members why does the answer have to be "deport them all!!1!", just police the gang members.
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'Violent gang taking advantage of immigration crisis, using border as recruiting hub'
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If some are gang members why does the answer have to be "deport them all!!1!", just police the gang members.
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Thats nice, so you'll take care of all of them then?
It's only for about 20 years...
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20 years until what??

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'Violent gang taking advantage of immigration crisis, using border as recruiting hub'
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no no no , the granola eating fag likes seeing his country invaded . Ms13 or not . Its all good.
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it's not an invasion, they're only coming here to find work, and granola is very good for you
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'Violent gang taking advantage of immigration crisis, using border as recruiting hub'
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no no no , the granola eating fag likes seeing his country invaded . Ms13 or not . Its all good.
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it's not an invasion, they're only coming here to find work, and granola is very good for you
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Well I want to move to ecuador and try to work but I cant because I dont have 50k liquid assets required to nor the 15k in immigration costs and well its super hard to get a work visa if I had 65k ..... So ya know what I can't / won't do ?

MOVE TO ECUADOR CAUSE IM NOT A SCUMBAG INVADER .
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Would you travel across jungles and deserts infested with human and drug trafficers for a better chance at life?
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That is like asking would you rob a bank, both are illegal and are selfish to try to make yourself richer.
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Fact is, they're better than the majority of us.
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bsflagwhateveriamwithpropogandastfuban3banhim5:youreafag:wtfdidbanhim6stfu

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bump for the haters
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the bible says they are a plague and punishment and a curse for disobeying his law.


deuteronomy 28


you better think again idiot..
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the bible says they are a plague and punishment and a curse for disobeying his law.


deuteronomy 28


you better think again idiot..

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Why is everyone so angry?
These people need help.

Instead of being compassionate individuals humanity has once again turned to hate. Everyone is so invested in their own self and media aided paranoia. The world can't turn a blind eye to crisis happening in other countries.

People are fine as long as it's not them and don't give two shits. The USA can't just build a cocoon around itself. It's a responsibility as human beings to not turn blind eye when another fellow human being is in need.

These countries are already falling apart by their corrupt leaders. Again selfish people who don't care about other people except lining their own pockets with money.

Of course though, it is so much easier to yell, call them illegal, diseased, and run scared. So much easier to build walls instead of helping. Wish people would put themselves in these people's shoes.

Oh wait...just go back in your heritage. Most people came from immigrants looking for the exact same thing. A better life. Running from their corrupt country government or escape political warfare.
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Hey, asshole --

then you pay for them.

And maybe you could put twenty or thirty up in your home.


F*ck off.
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Hey, asshole --

then you pay for them.

And maybe you could put twenty or thirty up in your home.


F*ck off.
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Help and come up with a viable solution instead of a childish angry reply.

This problem is happening now and it will continue happening as long as these third world countries continue going to hell. It is only human to seek betterment.

It has happened in the past, it is happening now, and no amount of bitching will stop it from happening in the future.

Walls, deportation, discrimination, hate. It has never stopped people in the past. Not going to work now. So people make fliers, try to stop buses that are transporting these people, or start their own angry little mob. It's all happened before. Best of luck to you. However, didn't work then. Certainly not working now.

Just unleashing more chaos and terror. The USA should be better than that, specially because most of its citizens came from immigrants. It's what makes the USA such a special place.
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Hey, asshole --

then you pay for them.

And maybe you could put twenty or thirty up in your home.


F*ck off.
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Why should we have to pay for them? They aren't coming for welfare, they're coming to work. If we give them a chance to establish themselves I bet they'll end up giving more through income tax. I think you guys are overblowing how much it will cost the government. I bet it won't cost the government more than it would cost to build your double decker electrified fence plus drone surveillance that you want on the boarder.

Yall just racist, that simple.
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If some are gang members why does the answer have to be "deport them all!!1!", just police the gang members.
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Because they're all illegal. That some are gang members is the reason why we should do it faster.
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49The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; 50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: 51And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee. 52And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. 53And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee: 54So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: 55So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates. 56The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter, 57And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.
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