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Obama bans russian AK47 and parts

 
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Day before the ML17 flight was downed, Obama signed yet another executive order placing more sanctions on Russia, most visiable is the ban on Russian AK47 and related parts.

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So much to undo and fix after he is gone from office.
....add another one. sigh
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While I am not a fan of the AK47 weapon system, and think it is far less effective than its American counter-parts. This is wrong. Its starts with "one" and ends with "all." At what point do we start to use the weapons we covet so much, for the reason we are allowed to have then in the first place. To stop tyrannical governments and the kings that lead them.
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Correctomundo ^

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Romanian ak is decent as well
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deport the dick chewer back to his own country
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Not likely. From a legal standpoint, its a sanction against Russia, not technically a ban on a firearm, although it has that effect. The same legal justification for this would not work elsewhere, certainly not for domestic production.
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The same situation applies to purchasing ammo, while of course the government hasn't banned 22lr firearmes, their indirect actions of placing rescrictions on lead smelting and government agencies contracts for all types off ammunition has caused problems in obtaining affordable firearm ammunition.

I used to go to the shooting range at a whim with the smallest concern of having ammo to practice with, now it the biggest issue as if you don't have ammo, you can't use your firearm. My kids no longer ask "Dad, can we go shooting range?" But rather "Dad , do we have enough ammo to go to the shooting range?".
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that's called an "end-run around the constitution".
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O- is an idiot
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why are people so short sighted as to think ANY govt leader is an 'idiot'?

idiot

you are the idiot.

govt leaders get there because they are cunning, intelligent, and driven.

obama is accomplishing exactly what he set out to do.

further the NWO agenda. just like bush, clinton, and bush.
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Fuck Obama! No more Saigas...Glad I grabbed a few years ago. Saiga "hunting rifles" were really the only way you can have an Ak on an original Izmash barrel and receiver thanks to Bush Sr retarded ban. Everything else is on an US Made barrel and receiver. There will be no shortage of ak rifles considering most of them are built off Romanian parts etc. But Saigas were a great opportunity to own an ak built on a receiver and barrel at a truly legendary factory.
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Because ak47 is the gun of Freedom Fighters.
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Fuck Obama! No more Saigas...Glad I grabbed a few years ago. Saiga "hunting rifles" were really the only way you can have an Ak on an original Izmash barrel and receiver thanks to Bush Sr retarded ban. Everything else is on an US Made barrel and receiver. There will be no shortage of ak rifles considering most of them are built off Romanian parts etc. But Saigas were a great opportunity to own an ak built on a receiver and barrel at a truly legendary factory.
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Most of the Arsenal Ak's are made off that Saiga receiver also.
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If only Obummer would keep his nose out of the affairs of other countries, and just concentrate on our own problems here at home. Sheeeeesh, he reeks of arrogance!

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It's backhanded gun control and is a lie from your liar in chief
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This is a good thing.
It doesn't hurt anybody and sends a strong message to Putin.
It will also help prices in the secondary market..... so I hope you already bought yours! :)
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While I am not a fan of the AK47 weapon system, and think it is far less effective than its American counter-parts. This is wrong. Its starts with "one" and ends with "all." At what point do we start to use the weapons we covet so much, for the reason we are allowed to have then in the first place. To stop tyrannical governments and the kings that lead them.
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you are ill-informed. an effective weapon is the one that fires whenever you pull the trigger. the only worthy ARs are the piston driven models like Sig 516. Direct Impingement AR has major reliability issues (nearly ALL of the US soldier capture by enemies were directly caused by jammed weapons. Sometimes only 3-4 AR would fire among 12 soldiers) and is quietly on the way out.
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Fuck Obama! No more Saigas...Glad I grabbed a few years ago. Saiga "hunting rifles" were really the only way you can have an Ak on an original Izmash barrel and receiver thanks to Bush Sr retarded ban. Everything else is on an US Made barrel and receiver. There will be no shortage of ak rifles considering most of them are built off Romanian parts etc. But Saigas were a great opportunity to own an ak built on a receiver and barrel at a truly legendary factory.
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Most of the Arsenal Ak's are made off that Saiga receiver also.
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only SGL series. others (SLR, SAM) are Bulgies
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Time to ban Obama
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Here's a question, does anyone know whether or not if everything from russia is banned due to the sanction or is this simply specific types of things hand picked that are sanctioned....I think its only hand picked things right now isn't it?

Also, is it not the right of congress to vote on sanctions?
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Day before the ML17 flight was downed, Obama signed yet another executive order placing more sanctions on Russia, most visiable is the ban on Russian AK47 and related parts.

[link to blog.cheaperthandirt.com]

But no, none of this is planned, it's all chance.....

It's good to be the king!
 Quoting: HumbleDog


even if this is true, there are millions of them in the states.
mostly, those that want them already have them.

however, i doubt it is true.
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Here's a question, does anyone know whether or not if everything from russia is banned due to the sanction or is this simply specific types of things hand picked that are sanctioned....I think its only hand picked things right now isn't it?

Also, is it not the right of congress to vote on sanctions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31926362


Ural motorcycles are still for sale in america.
they are also russian made.
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07/20/2014 07:22 PM
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He can't ban anything other than what is imported. So..no new imports of the weapon or parts. Big deal...manufacturers will step up and fill the void.
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Except that you wont be getting them for 2- 400 bucks anymore, us industry will make sure they are 1500
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07/20/2014 07:24 PM
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Fuck Obama! No more Saigas...Glad I grabbed a few years ago. Saiga "hunting rifles" were really the only way you can have an Ak on an original Izmash barrel and receiver thanks to Bush Sr retarded ban. Everything else is on an US Made barrel and receiver. There will be no shortage of ak rifles considering most of them are built off Romanian parts etc. But Saigas were a great opportunity to own an ak built on a receiver and barrel at a truly legendary factory.
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Just a heads up..my vpn's ip was banned immediately after making this post. I have a sneaking suspicion anyone posting in this thread is having their IP taken note of. Funny coincidence to say the least that my VPN was banned minutes after making this post.

In the spirit of good ol GLP Paranoia
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Last Edited by Gator! on 07/20/2014 07:35 PM
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holy shit. don;t know if i should say great or not. I have a collection of AKs... no Fime group shit either. my sgl 21s are legions....

one of these AKs i picked up for 500 are going to be worth at least 3 grand in a few years. Once a gun law goes into effect like this it is never undone.
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holy shit. don;t know if i should say great or not. I have a collection of AKs... no Fime group shit either. my sgl 21s are legions....

one of these AKs i picked up for 500 are going to be worth at least 3 grand in a few years. Once a gun law goes into effect like this it is never undone.
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Doubt it. Unless its a Saiga. Im just pissed I never had a chance to pick up a Saiga 12g. Buddy has one and its a ton of fun.
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nah. but if you eat too many, get fat, have a heart attack than yoru family will be able to sue.

they will just say the company puts addictive additives in the chips and you couldn't help yourself. their fault, liable. big bucks.
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Only affects importation from 2 manufacturers, Russia only has two manufacturers left. Does not apply to AK's built in the many other countries that produce them. There also is no ban on Russian AK's already in the US. So, you can bet their value will increase exponentially, get them now while you still can I guess.
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wtf? i was definitely just in the guy going to sue for broken chips thread....
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nah. but if you eat too many, get fat, have a heart attack than yoru family will be able to sue.

they will just say the company puts addictive additives in the chips and you couldn't help yourself. their fault, liable. big bucks.
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American manufacturer's can't compete with the former combloc countries in terms of being able to put out a quality AK on the cheap. now with all the regulations that is starting to make the import AKs more expensive.

In reality, the chicoms would be able to put out high quality AKs for under 200 if not for the norinco ban.

in the ak market, it really is a collectors market. you see "pre-ban" Aks go for ridiculous sums of money. why? simply because collectors want them. they aren't any better than a quality AK made today and they are in some cases 30 years old... how could a 30 year old used machine have 5 times the value of a new one today? collectors.

give a few years and internet hype and the new comers will be creaming for the legions.
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sgl21s are saigas, except they go for 1300 nowadays, and that is with the fime group importing them.

Legion is the Izhmash custom shop, they did some of the SGLs to keep up with demand after the Obama scare in 08 and 09.

They are glorified saigas made and converted by the best however.
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Fuck Obama! No more Saigas...Glad I grabbed a few years ago. Saiga "hunting rifles" were really the only way you can have an Ak on an original Izmash barrel and receiver thanks to Bush Sr retarded ban. Everything else is on an US Made barrel and receiver. There will be no shortage of ak rifles considering most of them are built off Romanian parts etc. But Saigas were a great opportunity to own an ak built on a receiver and barrel at a truly legendary factory.
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Most of the Arsenal Ak's are made off that Saiga receiver also.
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only SGL series. others (SLR, SAM) are Bulgies
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Sgl 21-94 and sgl 31-94 with folding stocks were made in izhmash custom shop in Russia and were never sporting rifles. The minimum american made parts were added in las vegas to make them legal. They were only made for a short period of time and are very rare and collectible.
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The only problem I forsee is with the ammo. Most of your cheap 7.62 and 5.45 steel case is made by Tula.





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