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1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?

 
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1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
Last week I was listening to a radio show on GCN and the caller was talking about a neighbor getting bit by a huge rattler. 88 vials of antivenom were used at the hospital.

The total bill when everything got done (patient survived) was 1 million, 40 thousand dollars!

Is this kind of bill possible for a snake bite?
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That's when you declare bankruptcy! OR...you could say you wanted to die and sue them when you don't.
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
I have heard that rattlesnake venom antidote is in very short supply and it's super expensive.

With that many vials used, it could very well cost that amount especially since it sounds like they were in the hospital for quite a while?

You have to wonder why the short supplies of so many medical supplies/drugs. Has it been done deliberately in order to increase the price deliberately? Or is it because they switched all their ordering to foreign countries which aren't able to produce high quality medical products that won't poison all of us.
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
Last week I was listening to a radio show on GCN and the caller was talking about a neighbor getting bit by a huge rattler. 88 vials of antivenom were used at the hospital.

The total bill when everything got done (patient survived) was 1 million, 40 thousand dollars!

Is this kind of bill possible for a snake bite?
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
Crypto much?
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
There used to be a cheap solution to that problem, labs in universities across the country made the antivenin, but the usg closed them all.

Too much profit lost for those big politicos.

In Mexico the same treatment is pennies on the dollar.
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
Last week I was listening to a radio show on GCN and the caller was talking about a neighbor getting bit by a huge rattler. 88 vials of antivenom were used at the hospital.

The total bill when everything got done (patient survived) was 1 million, 40 thousand dollars!

Is this kind of bill possible for a snake bite?
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1,000,040. is one million forty, not one million fourth thousand.
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
I have heard that rattlesnake venom antidote is in very short supply and it's super expensive.

With that many vials used, it could very well cost that amount especially since it sounds like they were in the hospital for quite a while?

You have to wonder why the short supplies of so many medical supplies/drugs. Has it been done deliberately in order to increase the price deliberately? Or is it because they switched all their ordering to foreign countries which aren't able to produce high quality medical products that won't poison all of us.
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The FDA has a drug shortage list. It's huge.
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
I have heard that rattlesnake venom antidote is in very short supply and it's super expensive.

With that many vials used, it could very well cost that amount especially since it sounds like they were in the hospital for quite a while?

You have to wonder why the short supplies of so many medical supplies/drugs. Has it been done deliberately in order to increase the price deliberately? Or is it because they switched all their ordering to foreign countries which aren't able to produce high quality medical products that won't poison all of us.
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The FDA has a drug shortage list. It's huge.
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Yes, I know...and someone knows why...
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
The total bill when everything got done (patient survived) was 1 million, 40 thousand dollars!
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I'm going to be a pedantic asshole here. 1 million 40 thousand dollars is $1,040,00,00. What is your level of education, OP?
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
The total bill when everything got done (patient survived) was 1 million, 40 thousand dollars!
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I'm going to be a pedantic asshole here. 1 million 40 thousand dollars is $1,040,00,00. What is your level of education, OP?
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$1,040,000.00
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
The total bill when everything got done (patient survived) was 1 million, 40 thousand dollars!
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I'm going to be a pedantic asshole here. 1 million 40 thousand dollars is $1,040,00,00. What is your level of education, OP?
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Well, what do you know!

Our kraut friend is capable of mistakes, too!

$1,040,000.00, not $1,040,00,00, you two bit pedantic asshole.
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
The total bill when everything got done (patient survived) was 1 million, 40 thousand dollars!
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I'm going to be a pedantic asshole here. 1 million 40 thousand dollars is $1,040,00,00. What is your level of education, OP?
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How much is 1,040,00,00?
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
Last week I was listening to a radio show on GCN and the caller was talking about a neighbor getting bit by a huge rattler. 88 vials of antivenom were used at the hospital.

The total bill when everything got done (patient survived) was 1 million, 40 thousand dollars!

Is this kind of bill possible for a snake bite?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17756349


When I worked out in the Four Corners area, I learned that the anti venom costs 5,000 - 6000 per vial. If you need ICU care and surgical f/u, it would be even more. There is a lot of lab costs as well as they monitor you to ensure you don't develop DIC.

At 88 vials, just the anti venom for the above case was ~ $500,000.

As for those bit by the coral snake.........they no longer manufacture the anti venom last time I checked.

Pays to keep an eye on your kids and teach them to avoid snake habitat.......many victims are kids.
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
There used to be a cheap solution to that problem, labs in universities across the country made the antivenin, but the usg closed them all.

Too much profit lost for those big politicos.

In Mexico the same treatment is pennies on the dollar.
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yes

the same lackluster entities who will rot in their own private form of hell whilst stuck on the wrong side of the gulf thruout the upcoming Age, marked as "dead" for all intents and purposes in truth

their "shift" in fortune is coming in no uncertain terms
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
You got bit where?

Doc says you gonna die!

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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
The total bill when everything got done (patient survived) was 1 million, 40 thousand dollars!
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I'm going to be a pedantic asshole here. 1 million 40 thousand dollars is $1,040,00,00. What is your level of education, OP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60828107


Well, what do you know!

Our kraut friend is capable of mistakes, too!

$1,040,000.00, not $1,040,00,00, you two bit pedantic asshole.
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LOL. I love when people try to use fancy words and then make kindergarten math errors. brb gonna go look up if they teach basic math in Germany.
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
oil

Obamacare is got this
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07/28/2014 01:36 AM
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
Here's an article from India from a few days ago...it's a worldwide shortage.

KATHMANDU, JUL 23 - The government agency responsible for distribution of anti-snake venom serum (ASVS) in the country is reeling under an acute shortage of the life-saving antidote during a season when the number of snakebite victims increases drastically.

The Epidemiology and Disease Control Division (EDCD) of the Department of Health Services in Kathmandu currently has only around 300 vials of the ASVS while the country needs at least 30,000 to 40,000 vials of the serum each year. With such a small amount of anti-snake venom serum at its disposal, there are fears of sharp increase from snakebites and related fatalities, which tends to rise significantly during rainy season in mostly the Tarai region of the country.


[link to www.ekantipur.com]
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
Here's an article that says the factory was closed for coral snake antivenom. The question is why????

It has to be profit driven. There are just way too many medicines that are unavailable, besides just saying that it's hard work to milk a snake.



To get enough venom, each snake must be milked many times. For example, in 1965, the National Institutes of Health asked Haast, who founded the Miami Serpentarium, to produce 1 pint of coral snake venom. It took him, a man of unrivaled skill and patience, a total of three years and 69,000 milkings to get that much, from which the first and only American coral antivenom was made. Wyeth (now owned by Pfizer) produced this same antivenom until 2003, when it closed the factory. Since then the FDA–which must approve antivenom the same way it approves other drugs–has extended the expiration date of the scant remaining supplies three times because the supply threatens to run out soon.

[link to www.popularmechanics.com]
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
Always sign in as an illegal alien when being admitted to the hospital. All those rich fuckers use every dodge available why shouldn't you?
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
Another slave peasant created for the machine to devour...

They just built a bigger hospital in my small city, it's 8 story tall building, they say they are non-prophets.
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
Here's an article (must register) that says antivenom in Israel was raised in price 500% for their local venomous snake last year.

Israeli animal lovers, beware: If your precious pony or dearest dog gets bitten by the Israeli viper (Vipera palaestinae), you will have to shell out NIS 5,000 for the antidote that will save its furry life, thanks to a price increase approved in recent days by the Health Ministry that has multiplied the antivenom cost by about five times.

[link to www.haaretz.com]
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Re: 1,000,040.00 hospital charge for a rattlesnake bite in Cali?
The total bill when everything got done (patient survived) was 1 million, 40 thousand dollars!
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I'm going to be a pedantic asshole here. 1 million 40 thousand dollars is $1,040,00,00. What is your level of education, OP?
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