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Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!

 
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Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
18 year old step son,....bad bad bad....

in doing my research, I am discovering that there is very little you can do with a soul that has no conscience.


Now, how do I talk his father into dealing with this so that the rest of his family are protected?
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
Do you consistently attempt to judge, categorize and influence other people?
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
How is that you hav 18 yr year stepson? Your husband must be at least 45
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
This argument for the draft is the weakest one, but I am sure you are heard OP.

But see, it's just because the military can kick the living shit out of him repeatedly. That's all they get as a tool the regular society doesn't get, but it is a big tool, effective for young men who can't get right.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
How is that you hav 18 yr year stepson? Your husband must be at least 45
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I have an 18 year old stepson and a 20 yr old step daughter, and my husband is 43. I'm 36 but look like I'm in my 20s. it's possible.

OP, I'm sorry about your situation. does he live in your house? maybe you can encourage him to move out.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
not enough details to be able to offer any real advice. You say he has no conscience - examples? You say sociopath, is that a professional's diagnosis, or just your opinion? You say you are concerned about your safety, why? Have threats been made?
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
To have municipal cops do the 'boot camp' thing is totally retarded. Havig muni cops assume military posture is like paying a pig to be an attack animal. No offense intended.

I am saying only milspec can effectively kick the holy high hell out of this kid in such a way that he does not die and is built up thereafter. Municipals CANNOT do this, they will just kill him in some goofy ill-applied choke hold.

My .02 OP.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
18 year old step son,....bad bad bad....

in doing my research, I am discovering that there is very little you can do with a soul that has no conscience.


Now, how do I talk his father into dealing with this so that the rest of his family are protected?
 Quoting: Sireenie


He is a human alien hybrid. The only thing u can do is recognize nothing can b done but stay away from them. Draw lines he can't b anywhere around u or the rest of your family.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
That's not a good situation. I've dealt with my fair share of them and have learned the best thing you can do is to keep them out of your life as much as possible.

Does he live with you? If he's 18 is he moving out soon?

Be very careful if you try to talk about this with his dad--family members can sort of block stuff out of there head when it comes to their loved ones.

Don't try to "protect" his family beyond that--it'll just cause complications, and may turn him against you--and sociopaths are dangerous in complicated situations. They will use everyone's emotions to their advantage.

What is some of the behavior you're witnessing?
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
That's not a good situation. I've dealt with my fair share of them and have learned the best thing you can do is to keep them out of your life as much as possible.

Does he live with you? If he's 18 is he moving out soon?

Be very careful if you try to talk about this with his dad--family members can sort of block stuff out of there head when it comes to their loved ones.

Don't try to "protect" his family beyond that--it'll just cause complications, and may turn him against you--and sociopaths are dangerous in complicated situations. They will use everyone's emotions to their advantage.

What is some of the behavior you're witnessing?
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THIS.

It could be a touchy subject. to some parents, their kids can do no wrong.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
your pic looks like you are in your twenties, are you a psychiatrist? I imagine not. Kid is probably pissed his dad is with a girl young enough to be his classmate.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!

OP, I'm sorry about your situation. does he live in your house? maybe you can encourage him to move out.
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Yes he does...he starts his Senior year of HS so he kinda has to stay.

I don't judge, I assess a conclusion based of the facts and evidence presented.

I love the kid to death....but he is most definitely showing ALL the signs of a sociopath/psychopath.

If you knew the extent of thievery, lying, destruction of personal property you would understand more that this isn't a judgement.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
OP, how do you know he is a sociopath? Do you have a formal diagnosis? If his behaviour is frightening to you or injurious to himself or others, you very definitely need to talk to his father and see about getting a diagnosis and some help.
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Do you consistently attempt to judge, categorize and influence other people?
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I hope she does. More discernment and action would have prevented many sociopaths such as Obama from grasping power.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
It goes much beyond that...he's incredibly manipulative, goes out of his way to disrupt our lives, is a pathological liar...lies even about things that are irrelivent <sp>. And just yesterday had found out he thinks of harming or killing.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!

OP, I'm sorry about your situation. does he live in your house? maybe you can encourage him to move out.
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Yes he does...he starts his Senior year of HS so he kinda has to stay.

I don't judge, I assess a conclusion based of the facts and evidence presented.

I love the kid to death....but he is most definitely showing ALL the signs of a sociopath/psychopath.

If you knew the extent of thievery, lying, destruction of personal property you would understand more that this isn't a judgement.
 Quoting: eekers


the notorious triad of pathology - setting fires, torturing animals, wetting the bed.

some people are surprised about the last item of the triad. It is because sociopathology affects the entire person, mind and body.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
AND his parents see and acknowledge this as a very real possibility.

Getting a professional diagnosis would require his cooperation and that just isn't going to happen.

I really thought there were organizations, suggestions or programs that would help him.

But all my research concludes is you cannot help a person with no conscience.

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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
18 year old step son,....bad bad bad....

in doing my research, I am discovering that there is very little you can do with a soul that has no conscience.


Now, how do I talk his father into dealing with this so that the rest of his family are protected?
 Quoting: Sireenie


He is a human alien hybrid. The only thing u can do is recognize nothing can b done but stay away from them. Draw lines he can't b anywhere around u or the rest of your family.
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has exactly nothing to do with being a sociopath… whether you like of it or not…. a lot of different ET's from other worlds colonized here and nobody has pure "earth DNA" to start with because of this.
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I agree . The ones that are bullies never change their destructive path. The quicker u recognize them the better off u r. So u can keep them away from u. The good ones u want near u.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
It goes much beyond that...he's incredibly manipulative, goes out of his way to disrupt our lives, is a pathological liar...lies even about things that are irrelivent <sp>. And just yesterday had found out he thinks of harming or killing.
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if the kid is in H.S. still, you might want to have a talk with the school counselor.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
There is a way to teach them some empathy. I've seen this happen to a sociopath, it required caring for another life like a dog. Do you have any pets?
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
How is that you hav 18 yr year stepson? Your husband must be at least 45
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I have an 18 year old stepson and a 20 yr old step daughter, and my husband is 43. I'm 36 but look like I'm in my 20s. it's possible.

OP, I'm sorry about your situation. does he live in your house? maybe you can encourage him to move out.
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Pics or it didnt happen

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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
Is he a sociopath or a psychopath. There is a difference.

If he's a sociopath you need to give him the tools to recognize the benefits of emotional bonds in a logical way.

Example: As a family we are allies. With this, we look out for one another and try to help one another in life. This is a huge benefit, and as such we treat one another with respect and love.

Also, explaining logically cause and effect of actions. Likely, his emotional state is different, but you as a parent need to figure out how he displays emotions, and help him understand other's emotions.

If he is a true sociopath, he needs to create parameters for interactions in society like Sheldon in Big Bang theory.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
There is a way to teach them some empathy. I've seen this happen to a sociopath, it required caring for another life like a dog. Do you have any pets?
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3 dogs and a cat.

He's good to the dogs, ignores the cat.

of course our dogs could kick his ass too.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
Have him beaten up by someone. A good kicking should sort him out.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
That's not a good situation. I've dealt with my fair share of them and have learned the best thing you can do is to keep them out of your life as much as possible.

Does he live with you? If he's 18 is he moving out soon?

Be very careful if you try to talk about this with his dad--family members can sort of block stuff out of there head when it comes to their loved ones.

Don't try to "protect" his family beyond that--it'll just cause complications, and may turn him against you--and sociopaths are dangerous in complicated situations. They will use everyone's emotions to their advantage.

What is some of the behavior you're witnessing?
 Quoting: Bongo7




I agree with this completely. I have a friend who has an adult step daughter about 40 years old. Her entire life has been a disaster of doing one terrible thing after another - drugs, booze, car smash ups, losing jobs, no friends, theft - she's just a horrible horrible horrible person, and now she's pregnant for the first time and we say she's going to use the kid as a human shield. Poor kid. Anyway, my friend's husband knows his daughter is a complete and utter fuck up, liar, drug user, etc etc, and sticks up for her OVER his wife of decades, repeatedly. I keep urging her to get a divorce. It's the only solution really.
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
I think the solution is obvious.

You must build an altar to Mediocracy in your back yard, drug him using over the counter medication, and kill him with a potato peeler.

For the good of mankind of course.
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hesright
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
Have him beaten up by someone. A good kicking should sort him out.
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Or just make him resentful and angry.
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There is a way to teach them some empathy. I've seen this happen to a sociopath, it required caring for another life like a dog. Do you have any pets?
 Quoting: nah-T


3 dogs and a cat.

He's good to the dogs, ignores the cat.

of course our dogs could kick his ass too.
 Quoting: Sireenie


The cat would be a good place to start. I wasn't around to see how this women did it to the sociopath, he ended up kicking her out but still being nice to the dog. He used to be really mean to the dog, now he cares for it better than he has ever cared for a person.
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Have him beaten up by someone. A good kicking should sort him out.
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Or just make him resentful and angry.
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And homicidal. Worst advice ever Beercan gangup
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Re: Wow, so there really is NOTHING you can do in regards to a sociopath!
I think the solution is obvious.

You must build an altar to Mediocracy in your back yard, drug him using over the counter medication, and kill him with a potato peeler.

For the good of mankind of course.
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This is probably the best advice you'll get.

Ever.

Though you may want to swap out the potato peeler with a cheese grater.

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Have him beaten up by someone. A good kicking should sort him out.
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this didnt come out of nowhere. how was he raised?probably with ALOT of physical abuse and very early childhood trauma to cause this condition?





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