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An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"

 
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An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"
As we know, the big baddy right now is Ebola. Some of us here on GLP may decide that the smart choice for them and their families is to bug in or self quarantine for 3 months or so. Its actually possible that if things were to start getting out of hand the government may demand that people self quarantine or face arrest and being taken to certain camps.
We often talk about being prepared with food and other supplies but how many of us have stocked sufficient entertainment for everyone in our families? Prolonged periods of isolation has been known to drive people crazy.

Unless you're lucky enough to have solar you can forget about TV, XBox, etc. Sure some have generators but unless you plan on risking carbon monoxide death it'd have to be outside which would defeat the purpose of a bug in. It's also unlikely that you have 3 + months of gas stored at home.

You need to take it old school. Board games, cards, books and the like. Finding something you all like doing together is a great idea.

One thing I've been doing for a while is downloading radio dramas. Once a month we have a 24-48 hour period where we hit the breakers and go with no electricity for a day or 2. At night we sit down and listen to radio dramas by LED candlelight as a family. I have well over 5 gigs of mystery, comedy, horror, and a BUNCH of twilight zones. They are all made for radio so it's just like it was back before TVs.
All you need is a small solar charger to charge your mp3 player or your phone and an sd card filled with your shows and you're good to go.

You can get these shows from your local library but they can also be found in less legal ways online.


Wow, sorry this was so long.
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Re: An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"
good info; thanks for sharing
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When you turn the power off for 2 days each month, what happens to the stuff in the fridge and freezer? And I agree, entertainment is something often overlooked.
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Re: An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"
When you turn the power off for 2 days each month, what happens to the stuff in the fridge and freezer? And I agree, entertainment is something often overlooked.
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It depends. I have taken most of the food from our fridge and kept it in the fridge in my office once. I did that because I didn't want to waste good food.

We could cook whats in the fridge but I like to have us prepare meals from our stock of stored goods.

Other times we've left the fridge running but no one was allowed to even open it.

I try to make it as real as possible without being wasteful.
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Re: An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"
That's 2 great ideas!
I think many people will be crazy with cabin fever if they have to stay locked in with family for 3 months or more. Entertainment is something a lot of people don't even think about when planning. I like hearing the Twilight Zone radio shows.
I also like the idea of a practice black out with my family.

Your advice in your post could help a lot of people if things turn really bad.

Thank you sir.
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I totally agree about the cabin fever. It's tough enough trying to keep a family in close quarters sane after 2-3 days. 3 months of forced isolation will definitely get to people.
I live in a hurricane prone area and got hit hard in the past. We went 2 weeks without power but it wasn't so bad because we could still go outside and socialize with neighbors and friends.
People have a tendency to underestimate how boring life would be without the simplest of entertainment.

Radio drama shows are perfect for this. It was good enough for our grandparents and parents and it still works to this day. They're so much better than audiobooks because while they do have a narrator, they also have actors playing all the different roles.
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Re: An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"
Check thrift shops & yard sales for games, toys & books to put away for 'downtime' entertainment.
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Check thrift shops & yard sales for games, toys & books to put away for 'downtime' entertainment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8073247


I have collected about 8 varieties of Trivial Pursuit. You can "play" without the board just asking the questions.

If you have kids pick up an old boyscout or girl scout handbook they have lots of activities that also teach them useful skills.
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Trivial Pursuit is an outstanding idea!

On a side note... I spoke with my family and told them that we're on a wait and see timeline right now. The kids (11-F, 13-M, 16-M) seemed OK with it until I told them they won't miss school like their public school friends. The kids now have a downside to homeschooling.

OK people lets get some ideas for entertainment!!
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I have home videos of the family on holiday at the beach, mountains, and parks. I think videos will be a good way to re-experience the outdoors without actually going outdoors.
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Your electronics will be fried when the EMP goes off.

Hoard books and pot. You'll be bored as hell and will need them.
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Re: An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"
Your electronics will be fried when the EMP goes off.

Hoard books and pot. You'll be bored as hell and will need them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60836359


So Ebola causes EMPs now? Did you read the original post?

Besides, how do you know OP doesn't keep his mp3 player in a faraday cage?
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Charlie didn't get much USO. He was dug in too deep
or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold
rice and a little rat meat.

He had only two ways home: death, or victory.
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Good advice OP. This should be pinned.
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Re: An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"
Puzzles!

I love puzzles in the winter or for doom....
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Re: An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"
IMHO, I see 2 major problems in such a situation:

a) turns for watches during the night
(I would NOT feel comfortable having my loved ones sleeping knowing what's lurking outside) so you surely have to arrange a schedule for turns
b) what are you going to do AFTER the three months?
go outside happily and assured that everything is over?

Staying inside sounds like a good idea in order to await that most of the ppl outside either
a) get desperate and kill each other off
b) the survivors get sick and stay stranded someplace
c) eventually die off

then what are YOU going to do afterwards?

how will you handle/dispose of of the corpses?
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Re: An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"
Maybe I'm naive but I don't think Ebola will be the extinction level event some think of it as.
I think if most people were to bug in for 3-6 months it would make it that much more difficult for the virus to spread which would make it easier for science to contain it.
Will everyone bug in? Of course not. There will be people walking the streets unprotected, and they WILL get sick and die. This is of course if the government doesn't make self quarantine mandatory and use the FEMA camps as holding for those that violate the mandate.

If the virus doesn't have a new host to infect it will eventually die off. We just have to be able to remain isolated for a minimum of 2 incubation periods AFTER the last death.

The big thing is being able to remain isolated without losing your mind.
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Re: An often overlooked MUST HAVE for an extended "Bug In" or "self quarantine"
AhHa! Did someone mention: Keeping Cabin Fever at bay? Keeping young children occupied & entertained? Keeping young adults learning life skills?

Learn & Sing campfire songs. A Capella. Have someone sing melody and everyone join in harmony. Or in unison. Great way to improve memorisation skills and build listening skills.

Narrate favourite stories. Little Golden Books can come alive when read aloud with a hearty dose of Improv. All stories need to become Tales of Epic Proportions. Think of this as improving communication skills and building public speaking skills.

Ad Lib a shadow puppet show. Have someone start the framework or background for the show earlier in the day. Be prepared for hilarity to ensue in the evening as everyone adds their shadow puppet character's part. Teaching moment for "thinking on your feet" and "creative adaptation".

There are many more ways to keep a family together and create a tighter bond during difficult times. As I think of different activities & have time to share them, I'll be more than happy to post.

So excited someone is thinking about the softer skills, too!
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In the case of Ebola and Gov ordered shut in...

Why would we have no power?

Wouldn't you still be able to say ..sit on your back deck if you lived in the country?

Don't forget crafting items too. These are always a life saver especially if your in the country and can still collect little things to make from nature.
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There are many more ways to keep a family together and create a tighter bond during difficult times.
 Quoting: I'mpossible


Right on!!! I love the the idea of campfire songs! I've spoken with local friends and they think books are enough. Books are great but things that unify the family is what will keep a family strong and there for each other in times of crisis.
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If you have children you should also be preparing to give them an education. Ambleside Online has a free curriculum based on the works of Charlotte Mason and classic works of literature. I've used their reading guide to collect a library that is useful for this purpose.

[link to www.amblesideonline.org (secure)]
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Absolutely. Education is beyond important. Like I said earlier I already told my kids if it came to it they wouldn't get the 3 month leave from education like their public school friends.

I also like the other bits on education and training from other posters, Survival and scouting skills are good to add. As are the crafting skills AC 58192516 touched on.
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That's a great idea, OP....

And here's one for you.

You know those little solar powered accent lights they sell at Home Depot? Well, by taking out the little solar collector and wiring 4 of them together, positive to positive, negative to negative, then reattaching it to the battery holder and splicing in the right plug or adapter, you have a low cost, light weight battery/cell phone/ipod charger.

Just make sure you include the diode to keep the batteries from discharging when the sun isn't shining.
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Your quarantine wil be a lot longer than 3 months.
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In the case of Ebola and Gov ordered shut in...

Why would we have no power?

Wouldn't you still be able to say ..sit on your back deck if you lived in the country?

Don't forget crafting items too. These are always a life saver especially if your in the country and can still collect little things to make from nature.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58192516


Having a source of income is pretty important as supply chains break down.

Power might go off because not enough power company employees are showing up to keep ahead of the huge labor an energy grid requires.

Being able to produce, on a small scale, something that the community requires will be an extremely lucrative business.
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Absolutely. Education is beyond important. Like I said earlier I already told my kids if it came to it they wouldn't get the 3 month leave from education like their public school friends.

I also like the other bits on education and training from other posters, Survival and scouting skills are good to add. As are the crafting skills AC 58192516 touched on.
 Quoting: Sirrx7


There are skills beyond reading, 'riting and 'rithmetic. If we transition to a more basic (I didn't say primitive) society then they will need to be able to function at that level too. After reading "Earth Abides" I am reminded that sometimes there could be an information overload.
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Your electronics will be fried when the EMP goes off.

Hoard books and pot. You'll be bored as hell and will need them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60836359


THIS. Some (non-electronic) musical instruments as well. Be creative when
thinking of possibilities for a percussion band -- lots of cheap stuff to use !
(Ever heard a five-gallon 'bucket drummer' ?)

ALSO, as many LED headlamps, lights, candles, etc as you can afford, plus
batteries for them. We live in the subarctic and really appreciate how long
LED's last on minimal battery power. You can get LED strip lights, etc. too.
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That's a great idea, OP....

And here's one for you.

You know those little solar powered accent lights they sell at Home Depot? Well, by taking out the little solar collector and wiring 4 of them together, positive to positive, negative to negative, then reattaching it to the battery holder and splicing in the right plug or adapter, you have a low cost, light weight battery/cell phone/ipod charger.

Just make sure you include the diode to keep the batteries from discharging when the sun isn't shining.
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


Clever! We actually bought a few of those to serve as night lighting after Hurricane Ivan in 2004. I'm digging the idea of making a solar charger out of a few. I'm gonna have to pick a few more up.


Your quarantine wil be a lot longer than 3 months.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37863583


All the more reason why entertainment, education, and ingenuity should NOT be overlooked. You don't want to be the home that has people who would rather face Ebola head on then spend another minute surrounded by his or her family.
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where do you download these programs?
me and my sons love listening to old time radio programs
there was a show we used to get called when radio was it was realy cool but i cant get it anymore.
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Your electronics will be fried when the EMP goes off.

Hoard books and pot. You'll be bored as hell and will need them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60836359


THIS. Some (non-electronic) musical instruments as well. Be creative when
thinking of possibilities for a percussion band -- lots of cheap stuff to use !
(Ever heard a five-gallon 'bucket drummer' ?)

ALSO, as many LED headlamps, lights, candles, etc as you can afford, plus
batteries for them. We live in the subarctic and really appreciate how long
LED's last on minimal battery power. You can get LED strip lights, etc. too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13730494


Um... LEDs are based on the same technology as the diodes that many people think will be fried after an EMP attack.





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