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Joseph and Judah the birthright and the sceptre

 
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I didn't read much of this thread but did you account for the false Jew Synagogue of Satan (the Khazars) who occupy Palestine currently and claim to be Jewish but are not, but are liars?
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One can only speak for themselves stupid.
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Lol... I've always wanted to use this...

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Truth hurts doesn't it?

You can always prove me wrong anytime by editing Wikipedia...

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You want me to PROVE that one can only speak for them self?

Fine.

How many moles do I have on my ball sack?
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"Who has the birthright and sceptre out of Jacob's sons from his two wives: Joseph and Judah - From Rachel and Leah"

Joseph is firstborn of Jacob and Rachel, the woman he truly loved and had to wait 14 years to marry, because Laban, the girls father's rule was the older had to be married before the younger. Leah being the holder bore Jacob 6 children:

1. Ruben (who slept with Bilha, handmaiden of Leah, lost his birthright and Bilha was banned from the camp)

2. Simeon, Leah

3. Levi, Leah

4. Judah, Leah (Leah becomes temporary barren)

5. Dan, of Bilha

6. Naphtali, Bilha

7. Gad, Zilpha Rachael's Handmaiden

8. Asher, Zilpha

9. Issacar, Leah

10.Zebulon, Leah, 14 years is up Rachael becomes Jacob's wife

11.Joseph is Rachel and Jacob's first born, receives the firstborn birthright, Joseph's firstborn Mannasseh, receives Ruben's firstborn right...

THEREFORE THE BIRTHRIGHT REMAINS WITH JOSEPH/MANNASSEH
WHICH IS THE LAND OF THE U.S.A./CANADA --HOUSE OF ISRAEL

12. Benjamin, remains with tribe of Judah in Jerusalem, both very small tribes.

The Scepter (lawgiver) will always remain with Judah...for it was through Judah/Tamar, the twin of Zarah, PHEREZ bore Jesus Christ, the King...so the Scepter remains with Judah...

Read Genesis 49...to see what Judah looks like today, and Joseph!
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Gen 49:10:

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The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Jesus has the sceptre and will give it to the witness(David) that will rule in the 1000 year millennium. This David is the shiloh that is coming and to him shall be the gathering of the people after messiah ben "Joseph" pushes the lost 10 tribes together as is stated in deut 33:

13 And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the Lord be his land, for the precious things of heaven, for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath,

14 And for the precious fruits brought forth by the sun, and for the precious things put forth by the moon,

15 And for the chief things of the ancient mountains, and for the precious things of the lasting hills,

16 And for the precious things of the earth and fulness thereof, and for the good will of him that dwelt in the bush: let the blessing come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was separated from his brethren.

17 His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

:judahephraim4::unibull:
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Genesis 49:8-10--> Judah: Do you look like a Judah today?
8 Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.

9 Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

(him describes Judah-----Judah w/Tamar entwines Judah and Joseph through these two...Zarah and Pherez....we know the seedline of Pherez ended with Christ---he had no children. So it's the seedline of the Scarlet Thread, Zarah that lives today........so that ONE will put the two sticks together....but the gathering of the people will be done by Christ....he promises to bring the people back together whom he spread all across the planet...known as the Nation of Israel...most souls walking the earth today have no clue if they are in the Nation of Israel...but rest assured Christ knows them and when it's time....they will hear his voice, and they will obey....that's yet to come.)

Genesis 49:22-26 JOSEPH: Do you look like a Joseph today?

22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)

25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.

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Joseph IS the USA/Canada...we are the most fruitful bough on the planet.......and the archers have sorely grieved him....we Christians are hated in the world...but we are made strong by the mighty God of Jacob,,,, and from thence is the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel ---

The STONE OF ISRAEL, is jacob's pillar, and it resides in Great Brittian....but it's broken...why? i believe it's broken because the queen is a fraud...hence the stone was taken away by God Almighty and a broken stone was put in it's place to show the people the Ephriam is a fraud....in the Book of Hosea, God Almighty told Hosea to stay away from Ephrian (This is Joseph's youngest child, Ephriam) because in the latter days Ephriam worships SATAN....and sure enough....Great Brittin/Queen is a phedophile, their nation is crumbling, no blessings from God to Ephriam.

The Bible is the best book ever written...for God has foretold us all things through his prophets and through himself, for Christ was the flesh temple body housing the spiritual body of himself...YHVH


BTW, there is a good book written of Joseph and Judah...it's called the Abrahamic covenant...it is a study of God's people and how to identify them...

and also, a good read is Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright by J. A. Allen....clearly lays out what your thread is all about!

have a nice day!
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If YOU believe in talking snakes that is.

Who here believes in talking snakes?

Ever seen one?

LOL
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Yes.

I wholeheartedly believe in Talking Snakes.

I have two of them named Lucifer seething through my entire being. So do you. So do all of us.

caduceus

That's God's "inside joke" by the way. Get it?

Romans 7:18
"For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not"

Wait until everyone wakes up to this fact. There's your lulz.

Yes the Snake RNA Strands of Phosp-Horus talks.

unclemikey-584

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Lots of people want to hear what Lucy says about the Lost Word...

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So, just so we are clear...

RNA is a Talking Snake that lives inside of us.

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What do you mean RNA is a talking snake that lives inside of us?
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Ruddy means red and so does Adam meaning red man.

Ramesses and Isi

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Redhead gonna Redhead... and bee-head.

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The Goddess coming to a country near you...


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The Goddess coming to a country near you...
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What do you mean RNA is a talking snake that lives inside of us?
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior

The Serpent spoke 46 Words to Adam and Eve (the first Base Pair). 46 Words became 46 Chromosomes.

unclemikey-600

Now, it's God's turn to speak some sWords to us.

unclemikey-591

I'm looking forward to the Upgrade. Two Sticks joined together.

Amen to that...

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Note that Lucifer, the Prototype, had Ten Base Pairs.

It was a near perfect creation, as stated in Ezekiel 28:12...

"Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty"

This is why the Luciferian crowd cheers his return. They don't want the 'perfect' DNA because they want the "ego" part to remain intact.

They hate Jesus because he came to proclaim that not only was the experiment a fail, but the 'bug fix' was to add two more Laws written into the Heart/Base Pairs.

These two Laws were thus...

unclemikey-558

Love thy God and love thy neighbor is too big a pill to swallow for some folks I suppose, however it finally took care of the Pride part.

As for me, I want the total package and off this prison hell once and for all.

God is giving us the choice. Free will.

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Two sons Judah and Ephraim

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Regards,

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What do you mean RNA is a talking snake that lives inside of us?
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior

The Serpent spoke 46 Words to Adam and Eve (the first Base Pair). 46 Words became 46 Chromosomes.

unclemikey-600

Now, it's God's turn to speak some sWords to us.

unclemikey-591

I'm looking forward to the Upgrade. Two Sticks joined together.

Amen to that...

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Why would you get an upgrade?
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"shadow"fax the lord of all horses

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Joseph(witness 2) and the 10 tribes:



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Why would you get an upgrade?
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That's God for ya. Unconditional Love.

Even though I don't deserve it, it's being offered to me... to all of us that want it...

1 Peter 1:23
"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever"


I'm taking it.

I did my time...

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"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service"


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Two sons Judah and Ephraim
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Ah, almost forgot...

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Double witness yo.

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Last...

bump

...for the night crowd.

Good stuff Waterman.

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For Saturn's Day.

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Notice the two anointed Joshua and Zerubbabel they both are associated with the stone with seven eyes and both are called the two olive trees just as the two witnesses are called the two olive trees in revelation 11:

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.


Zechariah 3:9:

9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.



Zechariah 4:
10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the Lord, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?



12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.

14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

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Joshua the high priest and Zerubbabel the govenor of Judah represent the position of the two witnesses building the spiritual temple in the end times just as the bible shows the physical before the spiritual Joshua the high priest and Zerubbabel the govenor of Judah built the physical temple and the endtime high priest and the endtime govenor from judah will build the spiritual temple they were showing the 2 anointed in the end-times


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and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
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Levitics 16:8

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And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.




Messiah ben joseph and messiah ben david

Joseph and Judah
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Messiah ben joseph
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B12 and WM,

Amazing thread. bump
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I just want to know if David is coming back as a King. Or possibly as a witness. I feel this is my birthright and that he should stand as an earthly King down deeply in my heart.
 Quoting: Lion of Judah 4239957


david was a previous incarnation of Jesus.
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David sinned....Jesus never sinned therefore David was never a previous incarnation of Jesus
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THAT'S WHY THERE IS GRACE!!!
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I just want to know if David is coming back as a King. Or possibly as a witness. I feel this is my birthright and that he should stand as an earthly King down deeply in my heart.
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david was a previous incarnation of Jesus.
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David sinned....Jesus never sinned therefore David was never a previous incarnation of Jesus
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THAT'S WHY THERE IS GRACE!!!
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psalm 110:1:

King James Bible
A Psalm of David(David). The LORD(the Father) said unto my Lord(Jesus), Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Again David sinned and is not the incarnate of Jesus
David while in the spirit called Jesus his lord so how is David Jesus and also his Lord?

If Jesus was an incarnate of David he would have already sinned and been disqualified to become the sinless sacrifice that only he could provide as he was always sinless
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