Joseph and Judah the birthright and the sceptre

Double chicken.

Waterhen.......lol

A friend is not always nice to you and everybody nice is not always your friend

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Names of divided Israel in different pairings in the bible:

Israel (northern kingdom) Judah (southern kingdom)
Jacob (northern kingdom) Israel(southern kingdom)
Ephraim(northern kingdom) Judah (southern kingdom)

The division of leadership will be divided just as the nation is divided, two families/kingdoms...two witnesses:

The northern kingdom will have a leader(Joseph/Ephraim)
The southern kingdom will have a leader(Judah)
These two leaders will be the two witnesses and they will be in charge of uniting these two kingdoms/families

Joseph is represented by the bullock/unicorn as is shown in deut 33 as smiting the people together bringing the lost 10 tribes together:

13 ¶ And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the Lord is his land for the sweetness of heaven, for the dew, and for the [m]depth lying beneath,
14 And for the sweet increase of the Sun, and for the sweet increase of the Moon,
15 And for thy sweetness of the top of the ancient mountains, and for the sweetness of the old hills,
16 And for the sweetness of the earth, and abundance therefore: and the good will of him that dwelt in the [n]bush, shall come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was separated from his brethren.
17 His beauty shall be like his firstborn bullock, and his [o]horns as the horns of an unicorn: with them he shall smite the people together, even the ends of the world: these are also the ten thousands of Ephraim, and these are the thousands of Manasseh.

Joseph will recognize Judah but Judah will not recognize Joseph until Judahs purpose is accomplished:
Gen 42:8
King James Bible
And Joseph knew his brethren, but they knew not him.

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Judah is represented by the lion:

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There are two families just as Jacob was married to two wives:
Leah and Rachael and as ruth tells us the house of Israel was built by these two wives Rachel giving birth to Joseph the birthright holder and Leah giving birth to Judah the sceptre holder and these two will reunite all of Israel being used as that instrument in the hand of God:

Ruth 4:11:
And all the people that were in the gate, and the elders, said, We are witnesses. The LORD make the woman that is come into thine house like Rachel and like Leah, which two did build the house of Israel: and do thou worthily in Ephratah, and be famous in Bethlehem:

1 chronicles 5:2

Jubilee Bible 2000
For Judah prevailed above his brethren and was their prince, but the birthright was Joseph's:)

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The fact that Jacob’s two wives, Leah and Rachel, are spoken of as "building the House of Israel," of necessity divides the immediate household of Jacob into "two families." In Jeremiah 33:24 they are spoken of as "the two families which the Lord hath chosen." The Covenant promise of the BIRTHRIGHT was given to one of these families, and that of the SCEPTRE to the other family. Rachel was to be the mother of "thousands of millions" while Leah was to be the mother of royalty. Genesis 49:10 shows us that Judah represents the SCEPTRE family; and I Chronicles 5:2 tells us "THE BIRTHRIGHT is Joseph’s." Never try to apply a BIRTHRIGHT blessing to the Jews. Judah and the Jews were excluded from the BIRTHRIGHT promises, Joseph from the SCEPTRE. The BIRTHRIGHT people are not, and are never in the Scriptures called Jews.

In Ezekiel the 37th chapter we are told that "the two sticks" which are still separate, but which are yet to be reunited, represent Judah on the one hand, and Joseph and the "House of Israel" on the other. One of these sticks represents the SCEPTRE people and the other the BIRTHRIGHT people. Judah, the inheritor of the SCEPTRE, is only a half bother to Joseph, the inheritor of the BIRTHRIGHT. The SCEPTRE and the BIRTHRIGHT inheritors are "two-families" with different mothers. How could the distinction between the SCEPTRE and the BIRTHRIGHT families Judah and Israel be more emphatic?

Each leader will be leader of one of the two families. The two leaders will be Joseph and Judah as the northern kingdom inherits the birthright blessing and the southern kingdom inherits the sceptre blessing

Two families two leaders....Judah the king and Joseph the "prime minister"(high priest) each destined to rule in the 1000 year millennium and then sit as prince of priests(Joseph) and prince of kings(Judah/David) on the left and right of Jesus in the new heaven and new earth for all eternity!
Joseph converses with Judah:

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You christians spend so much time obsessing over Israel and Jewish culture. You probably know so little of your own ancestors and you would probably scoff at the idea. Because they were all "satanic pagans" I bet.

A friend is not always nice to you and everybody nice is not always your friend

Waterman, I thought you might be interested in this.

I have the original 1917 copy (the eighteenth edition of the 1902 book.)
It's one of many which belonged to my great-grandmother.

Thanks for reminding me of them...I went & dusted them off. Haven't read them in over 25 years.
I will, tho. So thank you.

Full Book online: [link to www.ccg.org]

Analysis/synopsis of the book here: [link to www.cbcg.org]



ETA: upon second look, both links may be full editions of the same book.

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Why did you delete my vision?

I'll tell you another one bc you deleted that one.

I had a vision last night. I was invited to an event by a friend, but it turned out to be a "religious" gathering instead held at a church called Iron Rod Gate. I wanted out bc I was getting bad vibes. I called for a cab and asked someone what cross streets we were at to give the cabbie. They said Zane, Ezra, and Bush.

Just about to leave, and all of a sudden, these two men, in the midst of this church service got up and began to kiss each other. Then, this woman with bright red hair appeared in the midst of them to perform a marriage ceremony between the two men.

I'm not going to tell you what happened next bc you deleted my earlier vision story.

In this diagram, it goes from Judah to king David. It skips the fact that Judah had twins, Perez and Zerah. This is the story were Zerah about to be born first hand came out of the womb and was tagged with a red thread by the midwife. Zerah pulled his hand back into the womb and Perez was born first. Zerah was tagged to receive the blessings but Perez got them.

King David came thru the lineage of Perez, however in the lineage of Christ it list both Perez and Zerah as the lineage. That is impossible unless you understand that Perez brought the physical lineage of Christ and Zerah brings the spiritual and final stand. Both fulfill the requirement of JUDAH.

The Scottish claim to be the descendants of Zerah. The scots have in their possession the Stone of Scone, which is supposed to be the stone in which Jabob laid his head on when he saw "Jacobs ladder". The British monarchy use this stone by placing it under the corination chair, a special throne for coronations only.

BTW, the British flag is called the "Union Jack" , for the union of Jakob aka Jacob..

So from a spiritual law and prophecy fulfillment are concerned the sons of the Scottish heritage are all that are required for prophecy to be completed.

2 witnesses but one king until it is relinquished to the real king of heaven and earth,it seems it can be unclear as to who is who and what is what,even they arnt sure?