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UPDATE page 3 -- Ebola / WATER WELL POISONING in Liberia - update from my Liberian Friend

 
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UPDATE page 3 -- Ebola / WATER WELL POISONING in Liberia - update from my Liberian Friend
****NEW UPDATE POSTED 3rd PAGE

I posted this a few days ago in GM's thread:

OK, here is what I know, for real -- I am not convinced that we are facing a plague on US soil at this point but the situation in Liberia is critical:

I have a friend from Liberia, she and I have worked together at two separate places so we know each other very well.

I IM'd her to ask what was going on over there, here is what she said:

[ME] 2:46 PM
Hey
How are you? How is your family in Liberia?
[HER] 2:46 PM
yes my dear
Yes. All my hushand family and few of my family
[ME] 2:47 PM
Are they ok? I Have been hearing about Ebola being bad over there
[HER] 2:48 PM
The virus started in my husband home county. Not immediate family members yet but distance relative and a lot of friends.
[ME] 2:48 PM
oh:(
Did your relative recover?
[HER] 2:48 PM
People are not surviving yet
[ME] 2:48 PM
they are saying in the news that all liberian schools are canceled
I am very sorry for your loss.
[HER] 2:49 PM
All schools, hospitals, churches goverment buildings are shutting down or beginning to shutdown.

Then my phone rang and she called to talk to me over the phone -- too much to type, I guess.

She said:

The virus originally started in Guinea, and there is a river on the border between Guinea and Liberia. When it started, people fled from Guinea, across the river into Liberia. Once over in Liberia, some people set up in a house, and when one of those people died, all the people living in that house fled.

At that point the Liberian people were trying to alert their (corrupt) government to do something about it, but they claimed that there was not enough evidence to support a quarantine, etc. so they did basically nothing.

The speculation is that the people who fled from that house are the ones who spread it through the rest of Liberia to Monrovia.

She says that whas is being reported on the news is not anywhere close to what is really happening over there. The speculation at this point is that probably 40% of the population of Liberia/Monrovia will die (or 40% of Liberia, I am not sure specifically which she meant, but I inferred from the conversation that she was talking about the city).

She has lost contact with her half brother so they are very worried about him, and a sister in law who only went back to Liberia a couple of weeks ago (but who has been here in the USA for several years, thus her immune system is not equipped for living over there).

She said that her church is taking donations to send across and what they are asking for is BODY BAGs and CLOROX. Literally -- that is what they need the most right now. If that isn't indicative of how serious it is in Liberia, I don't know what is.

Also she says that when her family calls, they no longer ask for money or goods to be sent, instead they just ask her to Pray for them.

**ALSO forgot to add, that the biggest danger right now is that people are fleeing Monrovia and running away, seeking more rural places to live/hide from what is happening in the city.

And that this has been happening since MARCH and Liberian government has done nothing... hospitals are overrun since not even nurses or doctors are coming to work anymore and that people are scared to leave their homes (if they aren't fleeing the city).

Also she says her husband knew 'Sawyer' very well, and he was burned to death in Nigeria. They didn't wait for him to die before they set him on fire -- they wanted to stop the spread. And strangely, she didn't seem to feel that it was wrong -- more like 'At least Nigeria is *doing* something about the problem'.
 Quoting: tandym


Update continued below in next post...
*water well poisoning links below -- the terrorist says 'we are many' and 'there are more than 250 of us'
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She finally heard from her half-brother. He is doing OK. He got a job removing bodies, but now he does not pick them up anymore, instead he supervises the mass graves.

He has told her that there are over 300 dead so far in Montserrado alone. Every day at least 30-40 more bodies, and the numbers are rising.

Seven out of 13 counties in Liberia are infected.

The bulk of the dead are muslim. This is due to the fact that their tradition is to wash the bodies of the dead before burial. Because of this tradition, many more people get infected than should.

The president has made the decision to NOT burn any bodies, only bury them.

Yesterday her half-brother was driving to a village (on his motorcycle, by himself) and the road was blocked off with angry people and two dead bodies. He told her he stopped and turned around, because the people would probably have mobbed and killed him. The lack of information and education is a big part of the problem.

Many charities / churches that are getting supplies together are planning to donate to Samaritan's Purse because they are the ones actually doing the work and they know that if they give the money to the corrupt government, the supplies will never reach the people.
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So I wonder if we can extrapolate:

Seven out of 13 counties in Liberia are infected.

means approximately 300 * 7 = 2100 minimum?
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In addition to the ebola problems, they are also dealing with Terrorism / poisoning of the water supply.

[link to www.liberianobserver.com]

Residents in New Georgia on Somalia Drive Road have alleged that some unknown individuals are poisoning wells and hand pumps “to kill [them] in the name of Ebola.”
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This dog, on which the poison was reportedly tested, is said to have melted instantly upon drinking the water from the well.

Our witness said the man caught poisoning the Schieffelin well told the community that about 250 men have been trained around the country to poison drinking water.

He added that the water was tested on a dog at the scene, which melted instantly.
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Thank you for sharing this important information!!
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BREAKING: Formaldeyde in Water Allegedly Causing Ebola-like Symptoms

A man in Schieffelin, a community located in Margibi County on the Robertsfield Highway, has been arrested for attempting to put formaldehyde into a well used by the community.

Reports say around 10 a.m., he approached the well with powder in a bottle. Mobbed by the community, he confessed that he had been paid to put formaldeyde into the well, and that he was not the only one. He reportedly told community dwellers, “We are many.” There are are agents in Harbel, Dolostown, Cotton Tree and other communities around the ountry, he said.
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In addition to the ebola problems, they are also dealing with Terrorism / poisoning of the water supply.

[link to www.liberianobserver.com]

Residents in New Georgia on Somalia Drive Road have alleged that some unknown individuals are poisoning wells and hand pumps “to kill [them] in the name of Ebola.”
 Quoting: tandym


Good post
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The man also alleged that some water companies, particularly those bagging mineral water to sell, are also involved. The poison, he said, produces Ebola-like symptoms and subsequently kills people.
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Useful and saddening info, OP.
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ohmygoodness. what a horrible situation!
I'd be scared to be on body removal detail. that cannot be safe.
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The man also alleged that some water companies, particularly those bagging mineral water to sell, are also involved. The poison, he said, produces Ebola-like symptoms and subsequently kills people.
 Quoting: tandym


So not only is there an Ebola outbreak, they are also trying to FAKE an Ebola outbreak????

That's very interesting to say the least.
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Indian Community Offers Crematorium
For Disposal of Ebola Victims’ Remains

At the National Ebola Task Force (NETF) meeting Thursday, President Sirleaf reiterated that the option for cremation was still open. However, before she made this statement, Health and Social Welfare Minister, Dr. Walter Gwenigale, had stated that remains of Ebola victims were being interred in body bags, which according to him are safe and won’t contaminate the water source.
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The man also alleged that some water companies, particularly those bagging mineral water to sell, are also involved. The poison, he said, produces Ebola-like symptoms and subsequently kills people.
 Quoting: tandym


So not only is there an Ebola outbreak, they are also trying to FAKE an Ebola outbreak????

That's very interesting to say the least.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


That is what I thought.
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Interesting info OP. I find it funny though that no one is asking how Ebola, one of the largest and slowest to (naturally) evolve viruses, is all of a sudden spreading many times faster then past occurrences. I mean I understand the conditions and rituals of these areas aid in spreading Ebola, but this is no different then past Ebola outbreaks in the same areas, yet this time it seems much easier to spread. Top doctors in the field are getting infected following every protocol for Ebola, protocols that worked next to flawlessly in the past, somehow aren't enough this time. Something changed, and so far not many people are willing to admit it.

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In addition to the ebola problems, they are also dealing with Terrorism / poisoning of the water supply.

[link to www.liberianobserver.com]

Residents in New Georgia on Somalia Drive Road have alleged that some unknown individuals are poisoning wells and hand pumps “to kill [them] in the name of Ebola.”
 Quoting: tandym


in african slang
they use the word "ebola"
for any sickness
this could be confusing
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Interesting info OP. I find it funny though that no one is asking how Ebola, one of the largest and slowest to (naturally) evolve viruses, is all of a sudden spreading many times faster then past occurrences. I mean I understand the conditions and rituals of these areas aid in spreading Ebola, but this is no different then past Ebola outbreaks in the same areas, yet this time it seems much easier to spread. Top doctors in the field are getting infected following every protocol for Ebola, protocols that worked next to flawlessly in the past, somehow aren't enough this time. Something changed, and so far no many people are willing to admit it.
 Quoting: TruthNow88


what changed
is that vaccine made from mouse vsv stomach virus
was added to the mix
this probably led to some mutation
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Interesting info OP. I find it funny though that no one is asking how Ebola, one of the largest and slowest to (naturally) evolve viruses, is all of a sudden spreading many times faster then past occurrences. I mean I understand the conditions and rituals of these areas aid in spreading Ebola, but this is no different then past Ebola outbreaks in the same areas, yet this time it seems much easier to spread. Top doctors in the field are getting infected following every protocol for Ebola, protocols that worked next to flawlessly in the past, somehow aren't enough this time. Something changed, and so far not many people are willing to admit it.
 Quoting: TruthNow88


I think it is very interesting indeed -- especially that the poison used in the well supposedly mimics the symptoms of ebola -- which could be a reason why this is 'spreading' so much faster than it should. Drink the water -- die.
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Thanks T, very good info !
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Manufactured crisis.

For what purpose I wonder? How does this play out?
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In addition to the ebola problems, they are also dealing with Terrorism / poisoning of the water supply.

[link to www.liberianobserver.com]

Residents in New Georgia on Somalia Drive Road have alleged that some unknown individuals are poisoning wells and hand pumps “to kill [them] in the name of Ebola.”
 Quoting: tandym


in african slang
they use the word "ebola"
for any sickness
this could be confusing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56144605


Remember that very similar waves of fear blew up during the medieval plague outbreaks. They feared that merchant travelers were poisoning the villages, and often captured and extracted confessions before murdering them.

So this terror arising again is no surprise. Sadly, as there is a long history of vicious civil war in the area, it might be true. Without actual evidence, however, it would be wise to put it in the "grey" box. Who knows?
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The man also alleged that some water companies, particularly those bagging mineral water to sell, are also involved. The poison, he said, produces Ebola-like symptoms and subsequently kills people.
 Quoting: tandym


So not only is there an Ebola outbreak, they are also trying to FAKE an Ebola outbreak????

That's very interesting to say the least.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


No I think someone is trying to contain an ebola outbreak by killing everybody.
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Manufactured crisis.

For what purpose I wonder? How does this play out?
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That is EXACTLY what this is. Not a doubt in my mind.

Ebola, my ass. Those wells were contaminated to produce sickness and death similar to Ebola to promote the hysteria. Next, comes the vaccine. This is so clear to me now. Tekmira Pharmaceutcals is behind the Vaccine. The CDC is Atlanta already has a patent on one (more?) Ebola strains.....

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This is just the beginning.
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Re: UPDATE page 3 -- Ebola / WATER WELL POISONING in Liberia - update from my Liberian Friend
Interesting info OP. I find it funny though that no one is asking how Ebola, one of the largest and slowest to (naturally) evolve viruses, is all of a sudden spreading many times faster then past occurrences. I mean I understand the conditions and rituals of these areas aid in spreading Ebola, but this is no different then past Ebola outbreaks in the same areas, yet this time it seems much easier to spread. Top doctors in the field are getting infected following every protocol for Ebola, protocols that worked next to flawlessly in the past, somehow aren't enough this time. Something changed, and so far not many people are willing to admit it.
 Quoting: TruthNow88


I read that all the earlier outbreaks were contained in central Africa, which has a lower population and less transportation.
Now it is in west Africa where the population is larger and more mobile.

Edit:
Or, it has been re-engineered in a lab by TPTB and reintroduced into west Africa to make it seem like a natural mutation.

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OP, keep the updates from your friend coming
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This IS going to be awful!

Remember the timetraveler(not John T.) that claimed there would be an epidemic and mentioned Oregano Extract? I just ordered some.
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Manufactured crisis.

For what purpose I wonder? How does this play out?
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Maybe neighboring countries are trying to poison them before they flee over there.
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Manufactured crisis.

For what purpose I wonder? How does this play out?
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Maybe neighboring countries are trying to poison them before they flee over there.
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Nah not while trying to mimic the same symptoms.

Something about this whole thing stinks, I'm just not yet sure what the motive is.
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Through power, I gain victory.
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The Force shall free me.

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Manufactured crisis.

For what purpose I wonder? How does this play out?
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Maybe neighboring countries are trying to poison them before they flee over there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42484555


Nah not while trying to mimic the same symptoms.

Something about this whole thing stinks, I'm just not yet sure what the motive is.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Well ...you wouldn't want them to know they're being poisoned.
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The man also alleged that some water companies, particularly those bagging mineral water to sell, are also involved. The poison, he said, produces Ebola-like symptoms and subsequently kills people.
 Quoting: tandym


So not only is there an Ebola outbreak, they are also trying to FAKE an Ebola outbreak????

That's very interesting to say the least.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


No I think someone is trying to contain an ebola outbreak by killing everybody.
 Quoting: catnahalf 4485473


Oooooh, what an interesting theory.
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Manufactured crisis.

For what purpose I wonder? How does this play out?
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Maybe neighboring countries are trying to poison them before they flee over there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42484555


Nah not while trying to mimic the same symptoms.

Something about this whole thing stinks, I'm just not yet sure what the motive is.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Well ...you wouldn't want them to know they're being poisoned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42484555


Yeah.. good point
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something





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