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So? Whats your plan?

 
Lazy_Dog
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So? Whats your plan?
Over the years there have a number of threads on what to pack in you BOB. A few of us GLPers say we have a plan, so I figure I would ask the question.

Do you have a plan?

A simple yes/no/I'm not going to say is enough.

Here is an easy guide to help you plan or refine your plan.

In all honesty you need multiple plans as a single plan will not work in all situations. So lets make two.

Plan 1 - Shelter in place. Are you in a secure location? If so, how do you lock/bar you doors and windows to help prevent looters or buy you time to defend your location? You have enough food? A source of water (don't expect your faucets to work)?

When you shelter in place you have to take a number of things into consideration. Food, water, waste disposal (human waste too), security, and exit strategy to start with.

For food, how much do you have, I suggest 2 weeks per person at a minimum for a SiP. Do you have a way to get more by looting/hunting/trapping? So you have the skills to hunt or trap. What about a garden?

Water is the same as food. How much do you have. You need water for drinking/cleaning/hygiene. 1 gallon a day per person is the minimum for 2 weeks. Is there an alternate source you can get water that can be made potable? How about multiple sources.

How do you dispose of your waste? I am not just talking garbage but also your human and animal waste. The local dumpster may not work for long and you will not want to store it in your house or shelter for very long.

Security, how do you travel to your water source, take out the trash, recon the area? What about securing the doors and windows? Will your current plan buy you enough time to defend your home or area?

Finally an exit plan. How do you vacate your shelter? Where do you go, what do you take? How do you plan to get there? When do you leave? Are you forced out? All of these questions must be answered. If you are with other people where do you meet up if separated? Who carries what? Otherwise you are trapped.

Plan 2 - On the go. This plan is much harder than you think. Some basic things to remember. If you are carrying to much or it is to heavy, it is likely useless. If you do not know how to use an item, it is useless.

There are a number of threads on what and how to pack, this thread is not for that. The questions you have to answer are: Where am I going? Do I have a way to purify water? Can I defend myself? How do I get to where i am going? Am I going Nomad (No plan of action)?

If you are going somewhere have multiple ways of getting there. Bicycle, car/truck, shoe leather express, kayak or boat, are all good ways to travel. Most likely it will be a combination of ways. Know your route and have two or three alternate routes. Avoid large cities. Small towns may or may not help. Depending on what is causing you to bug out, may well determine how you travel as well as how far you can go.

Hope this helps. Maybe if time permits I will add more. Until then I will answer questions if I can.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
I have a plan

a couple options for locations close
and couple far away

a few options for mode or travel

IF I were to get an early start I could
feasibly make to my utopian location but
in reality that's not probable.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
I am going to shelter in place for about 4 weeks. Then I will emerge after 60% of people have killed each other, and the other 40% are too tired or injured to give me much trouble. There will be copious resources around, including vehicles and guns, and food and hopefully a pretty lady to enjoy it all with. Well, as much as a post apocalyptic world can be enjoyed.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
dont know i will follow my instinct..
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
I am going to shelter in place for about 4 weeks. Then I will emerge after 60% of people have killed each other, and the other 40% are too tired or injured to give me much trouble. There will be copious resources around, including vehicles and guns, and food and hopefully a pretty lady to enjoy it all with. Well, as much as a post apocalyptic world can be enjoyed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59356685


SIP is a viable option it's just that after about 7-10
days people will realize help ain't coming and gangs
will start moving house to house looking for supplies.

Unless you're underground and can ride this particular
wave out several times without detection then movement,
dangerous as it may be may be you best option for survival.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
Im going to dress up as a zombie.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
I am going to shelter in place for about 4 weeks. Then I will emerge after 60% of people have killed each other, and the other 40% are too tired or injured to give me much trouble. There will be copious resources around, including vehicles and guns, and food and hopefully a pretty lady to enjoy it all with. Well, as much as a post apocalyptic world can be enjoyed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59356685


SIP is a viable option it's just that after about 7-10
days people will realize help ain't coming and gangs
will start moving house to house looking for supplies.

Unless you're underground and can ride this particular
wave out several times without detection then movement,
dangerous as it may be may be you best option for survival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2226485


The organized gangs are going to go after the wealthier suburbs. The smaller groups and adhock looting are going to search for stuff in the countryside, and most of them are going to get killed by home defenders. I actually think people in inner city apartment buildings are going to be fine unless the weather is extremely hot or cold. just my humble opinion.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
I actually think people in inner city apartment buildings
are going to be fine unless the weather is extremely hot
or cold. just my humble opinion.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59356685


It is definitively easier to hide among the masses
you just have to be very careful not to do ANYTHING to
give any your position.

SIP or on the move remember one thing.

If you remain unseen you cannot be deemed
either a threat or a target.
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08/07/2014 05:38 PM
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
you people are all stupid - you think you can sit in your house safely with thousands of looters - get some brains
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
My plan is to raid the police station and kill all of the ebola tards.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
I actually think people in inner city apartment buildings
are going to be fine unless the weather is extremely hot
or cold. just my humble opinion.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59356685


It is definitively easier to hide among the masses
you just have to be very careful not to do ANYTHING to
give any your position.

SIP or on the move remember one thing.

If you remain unseen you cannot be deemed
either a threat or a target.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2226485


It is not so much that. it is that we know who is supposed to be in the building and who is not. when SHTF we go on lock down. There are enough vacancies that all the people on the first 3 floors can move to an upper floor. We have a few computer nerds who can and have set up a private Wifi network with realtime cameras and chat. There is also an old school intercom system. It would be very difficult for a gang to try to fight their way up 10 or so flights of stairs to get to the first aparment that had anything of value in it. Especially when we have total information superiority and the high ground. We would literally rain the poop down on them. Even if we lost power, we still have the high ground and the ability to barricade steel doors from the inside and burn them.

I have a feeling they would give up and move onto the town houses. We have a backup water supply and a generator. The only thing I am worried about is if it was extremely hot or cold. Then we are screwed and will probably have to become a gang of our own and take other peoples shelters.
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08/07/2014 06:14 PM
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
Yes and no. Due to my career and knowing how cowardly most suckers are I'll likely be trying to save folks who don't want to be saved until whatever it is kills me too.
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08/07/2014 06:23 PM
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
I forget, someone keeps smoking the bug out joint.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
my plan is I have no plan, Im gonna take it as it comes, and I hope it comes hard vodka5
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
I have many plans....depends on what the doom is....A ebola plan is way different than a economic collapse...
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08/08/2014 09:18 AM
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
you people are all stupid - you think you can sit in your house safely with thousands of looters - get some brains
 Quoting: shrag 13049590


That was one of my points. Security is a big big deal, how do you defend your place against looters and the like.
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08/08/2014 09:27 AM
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
I have many plans....depends on what the doom is....A ebola plan is way different than a economic collapse...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15483798


Again, that is my point. If you do not have at least some idea of what to do in a given situation then you are screwed.

A plan, and it does not have to be a good one even, help eliminate panic and fear.
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08/08/2014 09:38 AM
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
how do you defend your place against looters and the like.

 Quoting: Lazy_Dog


A well defended position is like a locked door.

Most will just move onto a easier target.

You have to hope their numbers will decline
by the time they come around again.
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08/08/2014 09:43 AM
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
how do you defend your place against looters and the like.

 Quoting: Lazy_Dog


A well defended position is like a locked door.

Most will just move onto a easier target.

You have to hope their numbers will decline
by the time they come around again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2226485


That is true, most looters will not be that determined at first. As time progresses though they will likely be more skilled and determined though where a simple locked door will not stop anyone.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
As time progresses though they will likely be more skilled and determined though where a simple locked door will not stop anyone.
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As time progresses defenders as well will become
more skilled and determined thus increasing the
complexity of the original simple locked door.
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08/08/2014 10:04 AM
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
I will have a smoke and a pancake.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
We have a months food and water and enough lumber and non electric tools to secure the house reasonably well.

I have the best weapons that you are allowed to own in the uk without a license.

But we are stuck in the suburbs, no country option, so will have to take our chances with the mob.
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08/08/2014 10:17 AM
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
Tomato plants/fortified greenhouse, nuff said.
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Re: So? Whats your plan?
Tomato plants/fortified greenhouse, nuff said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61261286


Best plan yet!