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I just explained Ebola to my narcissistic ex-wife

 
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I just explained Ebola to my narcissistic ex-wife
She could handle all the information, no denial. She wanted to know what she could do to prevent it and I told her what I know.

Then we got to the bottom line:

"If I get Ebola I'll find a way to cure myself."

I just wonder how many narcissistic-type people feel that way...

ahhh
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Just make sure not to take the vaccine.. THAT is their goal..the vaccine. If you tell your wife now, then she will believe you when they DEMAND you to take it
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Everyone is narcissistic.
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If I get ebola, I'll drive as far away from people I know and love into a deep forested area and take a nap in a fire-pit.

It would be bad enough to catch it, but my conscious couldn't handle infecting other people. I would want to erase myself from all human contact.
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Just make sure not to take the vaccine.. THAT is their goal..the vaccine. If you tell your wife now, then she will believe you when they DEMAND you to take it
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Right now there is no vaccine. Based on my research on Ebola, there's no good reason to think there will ever be one. If there is ever a vaccine I'll give her my opinion on it.

Thread: Infected by Ebola can kill you. Take the vaccine can turn you into a zombie.

Apparently, if you survive Ebola, your antibodies don't protect you from being infected again.

"Vaccine. None. As with exposure to other filoviruses, exposure to Ebola does not confer subsequent immunity. The antibody response in convalescent patients does not neutralize or protect against subsequent infection by Ebola virus. Researchers are now studying genetic immunization approaches."
[link to www.tarakharper.com]

Consider the "secret serum" for a moment:

"reports that the blood serum of a teenage Ebola survivor may have saved Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol"
[link to www.vox.com]

How does the ZMAP serum work?

"The ZMAP serum contains a combination of enzymes that eliminate the receptors on the RNA structure of the virus so that it cannot combine with proteins and effectively dies. It is an anti-viral treatment, not a vaccine."

If that's true, you would have to take it repeatedly every time you got Ebola again. If you go the blood serum route, you would have to take it repeatedly every time you got Ebola again.

Ebola is an ELE.

Thread: Ebola Outbreak Therapeutic Doom Album
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If I get ebola, I'll drive as far away from people I know and love into a deep forested area and take a nap in a fire-pit.

It would be bad enough to catch it, but my conscious couldn't handle infecting other people. I would want to erase myself from all human contact.
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You sound like a responsible human being. I'm concerned that narcissistic types may go into denial thinking they have superhuman powers to overcome anything.

But there are types that will infect others not because they're crazy or irresponsible but evil...

Thread: HIV positive people sometimes try to infect others and...Ebola?
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She could handle all the information, no denial. She wanted to know what she could do to prevent it and I told her what I know.

Then we got to the bottom line:

"If I get Ebola I'll find a way to cure myself."

I just wonder how many narcissistic-type people feel that way...

ahhh
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That sucks, she should be thinking preventive action, not post ebola action. Being bullet proof is the wrong attitude to take with ebola. That shit dont care what you think of yourself.
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If I get ebola, I'll drive as far away from people I know and love into a deep forested area and take a nap in a fire-pit.

It would be bad enough to catch it, but my conscious couldn't handle infecting other people. I would want to erase myself from all human contact.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


You sound like a responsible human being. I'm concerned that narcissistic types may go into denial thinking they have superhuman powers to overcome anything.

But there are types that will infect others not because they're crazy or irresponsible but evil...

Thread: HIV positive people sometimes try to infect others and...Ebola?
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This particular type of affirmation may or may not be narcissistic.

Up to 80 % or even HIGHER of effectiveness of Big Pharma Drugs in a recent study found to be the placebo effect.

I always said I was willing to pay for the placebo effect on my vitamins and supplements.

Certain drugs were found to have NO effect EXCEPT the
placebo effect.

Her absolute resolute belief may in fact SAVE HER LIFE haha
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If I get ebola, I'll drive as far away from people I know and love into a deep forested area and take a nap in a fire-pit.

It would be bad enough to catch it, but my conscious couldn't handle infecting other people. I would want to erase myself from all human contact.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


You sound like a responsible human being. I'm concerned that narcissistic types may go into denial thinking they have superhuman powers to overcome anything.

But there are types that will infect others not because they're crazy or irresponsible but evil...

Thread: HIV positive people sometimes try to infect others and...Ebola?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61522324


I'm not interested in taking anyone else down if my ship is sinking. People are out there who will spread this if they catch it our of malice and their own self hatred.

The best thing to do is prevent spreading this shit to other people at all costs even if it means an early exist strategy. It's deadly evil shit.
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She could handle all the information, no denial. She wanted to know what she could do to prevent it and I told her what I know.

Then we got to the bottom line:

"If I get Ebola I'll find a way to cure myself."

I just wonder how many narcissistic-type people feel that way...

ahhh
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Some people think they're invincible. What a shame.
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You guys are freaking out over Ebola a little bit much.

It can be treated and cured in an American hospital. The reason it has such a high mortality rate in Africa is because their medical infrastructure is centuries behind us.
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Her absolute resolute belief may in fact SAVE HER LIFE haha
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I have a lot of confidence in her abilities but let's be realistic.

Ebola looks like the flu until the final push of the disease then most people are dead days later. I don't know what you're resolve will be like when you think you've got the flu and then suddenly you realize you've got Ebola.

Imagine what that would be like. I think a lot of people will die from fright no matter how strong-willed they are.
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You guys are freaking out over Ebola a little bit much.

It can be treated and cured in an American hospital. The reason it has such a high mortality rate in Africa is because their medical infrastructure is centuries behind us.
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Right, if the vector can be identified and quarantined. Overwhelming the system is what you have to worry about.
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That sucks, she should be thinking preventive action, not post ebola action. Being bullet proof is the wrong attitude to take with ebola. That shit dont care what you think of yourself.
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Narcissists can't make these distinctions, they're really insane.
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It can be treated and cured in an American hospital.
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Document that please.
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You guys are freaking out over Ebola a little bit much.

It can be treated and cured in an American hospital. The reason it has such a high mortality rate in Africa is because their medical infrastructure is centuries behind us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549


Right, if the vector can be identified and quarantined. Overwhelming the system is what you have to worry about.
 Quoting: K.I.A.


Is this proven? Can you document it?

All of my research has indicated that there's no vaccine, no treatment, no cure, nothing like that.
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It can be treated and cured in an American hospital.
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Document that please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61522324


[link to www.cnn.com]

Just because we've never had ebola cases over here doesn't mean our doctors and hospitals don't know how to handle it.
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It can be treated and cured in an American hospital.
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Document that please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61522324


[link to www.cnn.com]

Just because we've never had ebola cases over here doesn't mean our doctors and hospitals don't know how to handle it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549


That article says the exact opposite of what you're trying to prove. Worst debunking I've seen. Give this poster an award.

Although there is no vaccine and no cure, the one real advantage we have with Ebola is that doctors know how to control it.
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there are ant-viral foods that hinder viruses and allow the body's defenses do their work. Vitamin C - quercetine combo, amino acid lysine (prevents viruses and cancer from breaking down callogen fibers that are the framework of the body structure... survival is not a chance thing
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It can be treated and cured in an American hospital.
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Document that please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61522324


[link to www.cnn.com]

Just because we've never had ebola cases over here doesn't mean our doctors and hospitals don't know how to handle it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549


That article says the exact opposite of what you're trying to prove. Worst debunking I've seen. Give this poster an award.

Although there is no vaccine and no cure, the one real advantage we have with Ebola is that doctors know how to control it.
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It's okay. I'm secure in the knowledge that we're not about to endure some ebola doom. See you after nothing happens.
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Everyone is narcissistic.
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To what DEGREE?


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You guys are freaking out over Ebola a little bit much.

It can be treated and cured in an American hospital. The reason it has such a high mortality rate in Africa is because their medical infrastructure is centuries behind us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549


Right, if the vector can be identified and quarantined. Overwhelming the system is what you have to worry about.
 Quoting: K.I.A.


Is this proven? Can you document it?

All of my research has indicated that there's no vaccine, no treatment, no cure, nothing like that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61522324


Well, no. Not exactly. The ugly truth is we can treat it better than anyone when motivated to do so and can identify and contain the vector (person carrying ebola) quicker and more effectively than most and maybe everyone else on the planet.

We then let them die comfortably if we cant stop it and ensure it ends with them and doesnt spread.

We also can keep it out of the media so it doesnt cause mass hysteria or keep ppl from going to the hospital with symptoms.

That is what they really mean by dealing with it effectively.
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You guys are freaking out over Ebola a little bit much.

It can be treated and cured in an American hospital. The reason it has such a high mortality rate in Africa is because their medical infrastructure is centuries behind us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549


Right, if the vector can be identified and quarantined. Overwhelming the system is what you have to worry about.
 Quoting: K.I.A.


Is this proven? Can you document it?

All of my research has indicated that there's no vaccine, no treatment, no cure, nothing like that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61522324


Well, no. Not exactly. The ugly truth is we can treat it better than anyone when motivated to do so and can identify and contain the vector (person carrying ebola) quicker and more effectively than most and maybe everyone else on the planet.

We then let them die comfortably if we cant stop it and ensure it ends with them and doesnt spread.

We also can keep it out of the media so it doesnt cause mass hysteria or keep ppl from going to the hospital with symptoms.

That is what they really mean by dealing with it effectively.
 Quoting: K.I.A.


Is this what Obama meant when he said, "The Ebola virus is controllable..."

Thread: "The Ebola virus is controllable..." - President Obama

You sound like a medical health professional who is aware of the conspiracy to label every Ebola case 'negative', am on the right track?
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lol. you live your life in fear of getting ebola and your wife is the crazy one?
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Right, if the vector can be identified and quarantined. Overwhelming the system is what you have to worry about.
 Quoting: K.I.A.


Is this proven? Can you document it?

All of my research has indicated that there's no vaccine, no treatment, no cure, nothing like that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61522324


Well, no. Not exactly. The ugly truth is we can treat it better than anyone when motivated to do so and can identify and contain the vector (person carrying ebola) quicker and more effectively than most and maybe everyone else on the planet.

We then let them die comfortably if we cant stop it and ensure it ends with them and doesnt spread.

We also can keep it out of the media so it doesnt cause mass hysteria or keep ppl from going to the hospital with symptoms.

That is what they really mean by dealing with it effectively.
 Quoting: K.I.A.


Is this what Obama meant when he said, "The Ebola virus is controllable..."

Thread: "The Ebola virus is controllable..." - President Obama

You sound like a medical health professional who is aware of the conspiracy to label every Ebola case 'negative', am on the right track?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61522324


In my opinion yes, that is what he meant. It does sound like we are working on a legit therapy for it though, for whatever that is worth.

The shame is it is probably using data we have had for awhile, we were just not motivated to pursue it because it was a third world problem. No money in curing those and it didnt touch anyones feelings of self preservation.

I am self employed. Once upon a time i was involved in medical circles.
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In my opinion yes, that is what he meant. It does sound like we are working on a legit therapy for it though, for whatever that is worth.

The shame is it is probably using data we have had for awhile, we were just not motivated to pursue it because it was a third world problem. No money in curing those and it didnt touch anyones feelings of self preservation.

I am self employed. Once upon a time i was involved in medical circles.
 Quoting: K.I.A.


Since you have experience in medical circles, I hope you can shed light on something.

Do you think there could be a conspiracy involving the entire medical community in America to label every potential Ebola case negative?

If so, how would that be pulled off? Is it done by threatening people's jobs, careers, even their lives?
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In my opinion yes, that is what he meant. It does sound like we are working on a legit therapy for it though, for whatever that is worth.

The shame is it is probably using data we have had for awhile, we were just not motivated to pursue it because it was a third world problem. No money in curing those and it didnt touch anyones feelings of self preservation.

I am self employed. Once upon a time i was involved in medical circles.
 Quoting: K.I.A.


Since you have experience in medical circles, I hope you can shed light on something.

Do you think there could be a conspiracy involving the entire medical community in America to label every potential Ebola case negative?

If so, how would that be pulled off? Is it done by threatening people's jobs, careers, even their lives?
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Silly - think small and contained. The entire medical community is too large.

The LABS report the positive/negative tests.

They are OWNED by CORPORATIONS.

I bet they use SPECIAL labs for this test - not the usual hospital lab.

The patient quietly dies - or recovers - from some hemmoraghic (sp) fever or lasso fever or other "new name" disease and is burried or sent home.

After dead - or discharged - the medical doctor doesn't give it another thought.

If its something "contagious" only infectious disease specialist would be brought in to diagnose it - and THEY have covered up Lymes disease for decades.

Insurance has pulled a doctors ability to work for them if they diagnose TOO MANY with that CODE. They give out MS - mostly to women - RA to men and osteoporosis to the old - and the young get some chronic arthritis code. 6 or 7 states in the Northeast have now enacted STATE LAWS to prevent insurance companies froom dumping doctors that diagnosis Lymes.

I do not know this for a fact and have no substantiating evidence - but anecdotal real life stories that have piled up for decades and two close family members and several friends that could NOT get a diagnosis.

Our local Vet treated HIS MOTHER FOR LYMES because the doctor would not - and she got better - there is a true conspiracy about it......so why not other stuff???
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In my opinion yes, that is what he meant. It does sound like we are working on a legit therapy for it though, for whatever that is worth.

The shame is it is probably using data we have had for awhile, we were just not motivated to pursue it because it was a third world problem. No money in curing those and it didnt touch anyones feelings of self preservation.

I am self employed. Once upon a time i was involved in medical circles.
 Quoting: K.I.A.


Since you have experience in medical circles, I hope you can shed light on something.

Do you think there could be a conspiracy involving the entire medical community in America to label every potential Ebola case negative?

If so, how would that be pulled off? Is it done by threatening people's jobs, careers, even their lives?
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If there were a conspiracy, hiding it would be multi-tiered process in my opinion.

First you compartmentalize information. Which is already done obviously. You need to be a certain level of employee to even be told what is going on. This is common and accepted.

"Who is in room 923 at the end of the empty hall on the 9th floor?"

"How should I know? They dont tell me anything and the 9th floor needs a passkey to get on it now."

You follow?

That is the first step and would curb most the talking. Next you change the definition. Say early ebola like symptoms are not "full blown ebola" yet. So you can not legally say they have ebola.

By the time it hits full blown they are dead shortly after.

Then another compartmentalized information like scenario unfolds for getting them out of the hospital and disposed of.

"Who was that the coroner boys brought down in that crazy looking giant body bag i saw on the stretcher at 3am this morning?"

"I dont know man, he must have had something pretty nasty though huh?"

"yeah, i guess so...crazy"

Follow that?

As far as those working the wards they are paid extra for being in a sensitive situation and basically get hazard pay. They of course sign an extra confidentiality agreement for this "privilege" and likely are ppl who have been used before so they have a history of keeping their mouth shut.

On top of all that have a super important looking meeting with some suits present talking of national security and some heavy sounding thinly veiled threats of punishment for leaking information.....and there you go.


Not as hard as one might think. In an entire hospital staff you might have only 35 or 40 ppl who know what is really going on.
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Ok so the impression I get is.
"This is America. We can kick Ebola's ass".

Frankly there is a good degree of truth in that sentiment. America is NOT Africa, and any rational person would expect that America would indeed deal with it far better than Africa.

BUT....

That is assuming anyone knows what the world is dealing with. This current Ebola epidemic is behaving in different ways compared to the others.

Lets look at the other killed epidemic in the recent past - HIV.

When did HIV first appear? How long did it take to get the first mutli drug cocktail to treat it?

Dealing with viruses is a whole different ball game. The best hope is to get a vaccine quickly. If that doesn't happen the world is in deep trouble.

You think some few pharmas are going to get together and throw a few billion dollars at the cure and Viola! we are going to have a cure immediately. Not going to happen.

Consider another fact. The developed World is not losing the battle against bacteria - Get that? Bacteria!! Look up Multi drug resistant bacteria. That is exactly where the world and the all powerful drug companies are
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Correction: The developed world is now losing the battle against bacteria
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Since you have experience in medical circles, I hope you can shed light on something.

Do you think there could be a conspiracy involving the entire medical community in America to label every potential Ebola case negative?

If so, how would that be pulled off? Is it done by threatening people's jobs, careers, even their lives?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19876247

Silly - think small and contained. The entire medical community is too large.

The LABS report the positive/negative tests.

They are OWNED by CORPORATIONS.

I bet they use SPECIAL labs for this test - not the usual hospital lab.

The patient quietly dies - or recovers - from some hemmoraghic (sp) fever or lasso fever or other "new name" disease and is burried or sent home.

After dead - or discharged - the medical doctor doesn't give it another thought.

If its something "contagious" only infectious disease specialist would be brought in to diagnose it - and THEY have covered up Lymes disease for decades.


Thank you for your insight.

This conspiracy you described is extremely dangerous. If the medical staff don't know what they're dealing with they're likely to be infected. If Ebola patients bodies and excrement aren't disposed of properly it's a nightmare beyond imagination.

Then, if recovered Ebola patients are immediately discharged they remain contagious for some time. Men's semen is contagious for about two months after recovery.

This plan could blow up in so many ways, it's insane and infantile.





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