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TheEndIsNigh2013 User ID: 62462073 United States 09/06/2014 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 This thread is absolutly bullcrap! Quoting: Ebøla 58481771 Nothing to look here, please move on...... "Dependency is commonplace Easy eradication of the human race"-The Acacia Strain, Wormwood I always leave good karma. Leave your name and I will return the favor!!! You have until mid to late 2015. Prepare accordingly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61443982 United Kingdom 09/06/2014 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 This thread is absolutly bullcrap! Quoting: Ebøla 58481771 Nothing to look here, please move on...... ANYHOO! VOLCANO CAFE UPDATE [link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62591319 United Kingdom 09/06/2014 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 This thread is absolutly bullcrap! Quoting: Ebøla 58481771 Nothing to look here, please move on...... ANYHOO! VOLCANO CAFE UPDATE [link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com] So, what will most likely happen at the caldera? For starters, it is normal for rapidly deflating large magma chambers to cause deflation caldera formations. Normally this does not lead to an eruption, or lead to just small eruptions since a deflating caldera floor is a sign of loss of pressure. In this case we need to take into account that there are two large pools of water below the ice over the caldera floor, and that the ice in and of itself can rapidly transform into water. If that water finds a way down into the extremely hot magma reservoir the water will instantly transform into supercritical steam and a steam explosion will occur. In that case pure physics take over; if a small amount of water hits a small area of hot material a fairly benign explosive event happens. If a large amount of water hits a small area of hot material a prolonged event follows. If a small amount of water hits a large area of hot material a short rapid explosive event happens. And if a large amount of water finds a large area of warm material I would prefer to be more than 50 kilometers away.[/i] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61789255 United Kingdom 09/06/2014 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 WHEWWWWWWWW...... Now, where has all of this magma gone? Well between one quarter and one third has erupted out through the fissures. The current estimate is that between 250 and 300 million cubic meters have come out of all of the fissures so far. And that would leave between 500 and 750 million cubic meters inside the rifting fissure extending from Bárdarbunga Central Volcano. and for all the troll saying its all dying down due to lack of earthquakes......... A short note on the diminished amount of earthquakes. This is fully to be expected since the earthquakes are mainly a sign of increased pressure in a fissure system as magma pushes apart rock. Now that the fissures have opened the pressure will be more constant and no new rock would need to be ripped apart by the magma. [link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43866161 United States 09/06/2014 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 just checked the cam again, what the hell is in that black smoke?. To be honest i might have to look at the situation again looks like it is becoming more volatile n cooking While there may be some increase in the volume of smoke, there does not appear to be any real difference, or any reason for a difference, in its composition. The darkening is probably just lighting affects from the inclination of the sun. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62591319 United Kingdom 09/06/2014 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 one more thing about that VC piece.. Now that we have covered the options of water dumping into the magma reservoir we should briefly discus Jökulhlaups. For Bárdarbunga it would take quite a lot for it to cause a Jökulhlaup directly from an explosive event at the Caldera since there is not natural way for the water to leave. read that again! there is not natural way for the water to leave. do you know what this means? that caldera is like a gigantic pot, with NO nozzle. water can't get out of it. if a crack occurs in the caldera roof, it is very likely the resulting eruption will widen it, and every last drop of water melted will make it's way down to the magma chamber, bigger eruption, bigger hole, more water down, until a final cataclysmic explosion as the magma chamber is flooded by millions of gallons of meltwater there is NOWHERE ELSE for the water to go!! now that the caldera is dipping because of a lack of pressure, when will the rock fail? that will be the key moment imho. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62591319 United Kingdom 09/06/2014 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 there are 240 gallons of water to a ton of ice, so 9,600,000,000,000 gallons of water are in the caldera over 9 and a half trillion gallons? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62591319 United Kingdom 09/06/2014 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 let's say there are 40 billion tons of ice in the caldera, conservatively Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62591319 there are 240 gallons of water to a ton of ice, so 9,600,000,000,000 gallons of water are in the caldera over 9 and a half trillion gallons? Thread: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 (Page 361) A conservative estimate places the size of this body of magma at 8 km diameter, height unknown but most likely on the order of 3 – 6 km, depth also unknown but relatively shallow. Using simple geometry, 4 x Pi x r^3 / 3 yields a volume of ~250 cubic kilometres for a sphere, but for our flattened body something on the order of 125 – 140 cu km.... The important question is not how much magma there is but rather how much of this magma is eruptible. The answer must be “not that large a fraction” as otherwise, Bardarbunga would most likely already have exploded. At this stage a guess would be no more than perhaps 10% or some 10 – 15 km^3. Also, in almost all eruptions on land, perhaps no more than <40% of the eruptible magma actually erupts. That still leaves us with a potential eruption of several, possibly as many as 5 km^3. Quoting: Luisport Another hugely important factor is the content of volcanic gases, above all humble H2O as this is what determines how explosive the eruptible magma is. Again, we most likely have a favourable situation. To judge from the magma erupting at Holuhraun, the content of SO2 is exceptionally high at as much as a cubic metre per ton magma. But the magma does not contain much water at all, hence the magma within Bardarbunga most likely does not as well. Any explosive eruption at Bardarbunga would probably not be highly explosive on its own. But there is one exacerbating factor and that is the presence of almost unlimited amounts of water in the shape of the Vatnajökull glacier. If it finds its way into this magma reservoir should an initial explosive eruption remove the roof or lid off the magma chamber, it will result in more and very large hydromagmatic explosions to follow after an initial eruption. Whether we will actually see such an eruption is highly uncertain, but if we do, there is little chance of it being larger than, at most, Pinatubo in 1991 – in spite of the staggering numbers involved.... [link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com] yeah, but if you dump all that water in, will it clear THE LOT out? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62591319 United Kingdom 09/06/2014 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 holy shit! Luis, that map needs to go on page one, and update the thread title damed! Can someone explain what that map is showing. My icelandic isn't much good these days..... a slump in the ice in the caldera the deeper the red, the deeper the part of the slump |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62584382 Portugal 09/06/2014 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 holy shit! Luis, that map needs to go on page one, and update the thread title damed! Can someone explain what that map is showing. My icelandic isn't much good these days..... Stephen Hicks @seismo_steve · 12 min As also shown by earthquake mechanisms, #Bardarbunga caldera is rapidly subsiding. Dark red: deepest. HT @RUVfrettir: [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62584382 Portugal 09/06/2014 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 Irpsit September 6, 2014 at 15:21 Great post Carl. I am definitively looking for 4 things happening or that might happen at Bardarbunga: 1) Very likely we will see in soon a new fissure forming to the south of the current ones, under the Dyngjujokull ice cap. This might result in a minor explosive or nothing visible, if eruption has no pressure to break all the thick ice. If that eruption breaks the ice, then it would form a ash cloud, but not a large one. 2) A glacial flood would almost likely follow if such an eruption occurs. And it would run over the current eruption sites (something probably astonishing to see with the webcams). I actually don’t understand why we haven’t seen one yet, in face of so much evidence for a subglacial fissure eruption. Speulation alert: The glacial flood could well occur sometime this week. 3) Quite likely we might also see some sort of explosive eruption, at the Bardarbunga caldera itself. After all, the caldera erupted one month after a M5 quake in 1996, why wouldn’t now? This is a more worrying scenario. The current ongoing collapsing caldera will likely result in some leakage of magma to the surface, which probably doesn’t break through the ice cap but water would contact magma, resulting in a steam explosion, Maybe this already happened in the cauldrons detected near the caldera southern edge. Usually such a subglacial event would carve a cave under the glacier, but a large event would cause the collapse of the glacier over it, and result in a larger steam explosion. At that point, a small explosive eruption would occur, but due to the fragility of the sinking caldera, water could start to leak more into the magma chamber and trigger what we all fear: a major plinian eruptiojn linked to the collapsing caldera. 4) last it’s another another development that worries me. It’s the amount of released SO2. I was shocked to feel SO2 from 100km afar. That means, that at current rate in about 4 weeks all across Iceland would be detecting sulphur gas, if wind would keep changing direction and spread the gas around. While not Laki scale, just 0.5 km3 of erupted magma, would be roughly 30 times less sulphur gas, which is still quite a significant amount of gas around. Reply Irpsit September 6, 2014 at 15:26 And quite a lot of gas visible just now in Bardar webcams. But I wrote this not based in this, but in the report of yesterday, feeling SO2 from quite away. That means its a huge amount of SO2 being released at the moment. I reckon that anyone close to the eruption site there, would be at least sick from its lungs. How can they make flight tours with such a gas cloud? [link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com] |
The Quiet One User ID: 7121340 United States 09/06/2014 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 Come on friends...Is this as serious as I think it is??? I have been warning my friends and acquatennces of this. Quoting: The Quiet One Mother Nature acts on her own timeline. Most people scoff at me. I have followed this thread since day one. All I knows is that I love every breathing thing. Been given red Karma for posting about Ebola. SAAH EXCO. Pray for the cynics. Pray for those who do not have a higher being to rely on when things get bad. PRAYERS FOR HUMANITY. I "think" I know the the outcome and will be at peace. Bless those who think differently. Thank you Louis and all great posters. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PEACE YOU GAVE ME. Life is tough and will get tougher. Thank goodness there are still good people here on earth. We are all watching this event unfold before our own eyes. How beautiful is that?? The beautiful people on this thread since the beginning show ME that humanity can and WILL survive. Bless you all and let all of us watch in wonderment the beauty of the universe together. Peace be with you. |
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Gugazine User ID: 62547746 Portugal 09/06/2014 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 Saturday 06.09.2014 14:32:14 64.622 -17.399 11.6 km 4.4 99.0 6.5 km ESE of Bárðarbunga Guga Iceland Eruptions by Cow: [link to weerstationlangerak.nl] Koevtsibird's FB: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] BVB's Giant Links List: [link to www.dropbox.com (secure)] |
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Fire & Ice User ID: 59431435 United States 09/06/2014 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 What is that green orb towards the top and middle of the frame? [link to i.imgur.com] Proud to be deplorable The only constant is change The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence "Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into his soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep" "One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51858751 United States 09/06/2014 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 Saturday Quoting: Gugazine 06.09.2014 14:32:14 64.622 -17.399 11.6 km 4.4 99.0 6.5 km ESE of Bárðarbunga Yeah, and look at that M3.0 at the surface! With a 15-20 meter drop in the caldera ... overnight! ( [link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com] Oh, she's getting close ... REAL CLOSE! |
Fire & Ice User ID: 59431435 United States 09/06/2014 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Volcanic Iceland: Earthquake with magnitude M 5,2 in Þorbjörn mountain (Fagradalsfjall mountain)!!!p1492 Now its gone [link to www.livefromiceland.is] Proud to be deplorable The only constant is change The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence "Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into his soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep" "One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it" |