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Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.

 
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Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
If 20% more is charged on sugary drinks that company might get back some % and the company score out of the tax payer and gov....
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How fucking hard is it for people to drink water? tea? coffee?
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They farm us through taxes.
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wait till they tax ass.
Then the CDC can catch-up on those evolving STDs from orgy cults.
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
If its going to make people think twice about buying a bottle of sugar, which effectively what it is, that's a good thing.

I can think of 100s of products which could go down the same route.
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
It's a tax on the poor. Statistically the poor, working poor, and middle class drink the most soda.
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
How fucking hard is it for people to drink water? tea? coffee?
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very hard in the modern slave world,they already did their research....there will be financial kickbacks there always are where moneys involved...
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
If its going to make people think twice about buying a bottle of sugar, which effectively what it is, that's a good thing.

I can think of 100s of products which could go down the same route.
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And then if it doesent work they will eventually tax water and tell you its bad for you but they will! tax you because the rich already bought all property on earth and now they want to buy planets but that costs big money....
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It's a tax on the poor. Statistically the poor, working poor, and middle class drink the most soda.
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True!
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
They should tax the fuck out of the companies making the over sugery drinks/food! Hit the dealer not the addict.
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
They always increase taxes on "addictive" items: tobacco, alcohol, sugar, fuel. if you can't live without it, it's getting milked- water is next.
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If its going to make people think twice about buying a bottle of sugar, which effectively what it is, that's a good thing.

I can think of 100s of products which could go down the same route.
 Quoting: Taggart87™


Well, history disagrees....they tax the shit out of tobacco, same people smoke...

It's just another payday for big brother and a hit for liberty.

No matter how you feel about sugary drinks, a free person should be allowed to consume what they choose.
“People have only as much liberty as they have the intelligence to want and the courage to take.”
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it's about the sugar
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They should tax the fuck out of the companies making the over sugery drinks/food! Hit the dealer not the addict.
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NOW THATS GOOD THINKING!,PROBLEM SOLVED FOR NOW...AT LEAST A TIME DELAY.
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They should tax the fuck out of the companies making the over sugery drinks/food! Hit the dealer not the addict.
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NOW THATS GOOD THINKING!,PROBLEM SOLVED FOR NOW...AT LEAST A TIME DELAY.
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No way, the government should just stop trying to regulate and tax people into doing what they want them to do.

The government needs to back off.

Last Edited by James McGill on 08/20/2014 11:45 AM
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
So make weed legal everywhere and tax it the same.
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
They should tax the fuck out of the companies making the over sugery drinks/food! Hit the dealer not the addict.
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NOW THATS GOOD THINKING!,PROBLEM SOLVED FOR NOW...AT LEAST A TIME DELAY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52631136


No way, the government should just stop trying to regulate and tax people into doing what they want them to do.

The government needs to back off.
 Quoting: Duke Silver


Yep then they will be able able to milk us more but at least with our concent like tabaco ext...or is there a hidden agenda....i mean this is a conspiracy site!.....
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They should tax the fuck out of the companies making the over sugery drinks/food! Hit the dealer not the addict.
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NOW THATS GOOD THINKING!,PROBLEM SOLVED FOR NOW...AT LEAST A TIME DELAY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52631136


No way, the government should just stop trying to regulate and tax people into doing what they want them to do.

The government needs to back off.
 Quoting: Duke Silver


Yep then they will be able able to milk us more but at least with our concent like tabaco ext...or is there a hidden agenda....i mean this is a conspiracy site!.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52631136


I just, in principle, don't believe the government should be involved in....well anything really outside national security...
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NOW THATS GOOD THINKING!,PROBLEM SOLVED FOR NOW...AT LEAST A TIME DELAY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52631136


No way, the government should just stop trying to regulate and tax people into doing what they want them to do.

The government needs to back off.
 Quoting: Duke Silver


Yep then they will be able able to milk us more but at least with our concent like tabaco ext...or is there a hidden agenda....i mean this is a conspiracy site!.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52631136


I just, in principle, don't believe the government should be involved in....well anything really outside national security...
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Will be back shortly if not banned by sugerman...
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
Well, history disagrees....they tax the shit out of tobacco, same people smoke...
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Is the amount of Tax they put on Tobacco enough though? We can't go down the road of banning Tobacco that would drive crime through the roof. The only other option is to make it more expensive for the buying consumer through taxation. Making that person think twice about buying it is a step in the right direction.

It's just another payday for big brother and a hit for liberty.
 Quoting: Duke Silver


That says more about the people who elect ''Big Brother'', than big brother its self. It has nothing to do with ''Liberty''. It's about doing the right thing. It's about taking action and using common sense.

No matter how you feel about sugary drinks, a free person should be allowed to consume what they choose.
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They are allowed to consume what they choose. If you are having an Obese and Diabetes pandemic lowering prices on Junk food and sugar Drinks is insane. Unless your objective is to continue to make your population sick.
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
Well, history disagrees....they tax the shit out of tobacco, same people smoke...
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Is the amount of Tax they put on Tobacco enough though? We can't go down the road of banning Tobacco that would drive crime through the roof. The only other option is to make it more expensive for the buy consumer through taxation. Making that person think twice about buying it is a step in the right direction.

It's just another payday for big brother and a hit for liberty.
 Quoting: Duke Silver


That says more about the people who elect ''Big Brother'', than big brother its self. It has nothing to do with ''Liberty''. It's about doing the right thing. It's about taking action and using common sense.

No matter how you feel about sugary drinks, a free person should be allowed to consume what they choose.
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They are allowed to consume what they choose. If you are having an Obese and Diabetes pandemic lowering prices on Junk food and sugar Drinks is insane. Unless your objective is to continue to make your population sick.
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On your first point....What gives the government the authority to do that? They just want more control. Since when does the government "care"?

To your second point, it does have to do with Liberty. Because "The right thing" to you, might not be "the right thing" in my opinion, so why should your morals be forced on me.

As for the third point, I never said lower the prices of that stuff...just that the government has no right to tax it.
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What gives the government the authority to do that?
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What to raise Taxes on products? Junk Food and cigarettes are making nations sick by the day and its getting bigger. The USA being the biggest one! And your attitue is ''What gives the Government the authority to do that'', are you sick in the head? Do you have stock in a cigarette or a Twinkie company?

People are dying every day because of this Pandemic. The people who elect the Government should be telling the Government to take action on this matter. Not sit around and debate the rule book.

They just want more control.
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They only have control because we give it to them. Taking control over Taxes on Junk food and Cigarettes is something that benefits Society and would benefit Children the most. The only people who would lose out on this would be the Companys who make Cigarettes and Junk Food. Which is a Good thing!

Since when does the government "care"?
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People care. Who Elects the Government?

To your second point, it does have to do with Liberty.
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You have Liberty to Disagree with it. If you happen to be in the Minority, which i believe you are, then you just have to deal with that. Living in a Democracy means that you won't get everthing your way!

Because "The right thing" to you, might not be "the right thing" in my opinion, so why should your morals be forced on me.
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What would be the right thing in your Opinion?

just that the government has no right to tax it.
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Just because it isn't in the Governtment rule book doesn't mean its the wrong thing to do. We need to take action on this and if it means getting the Government changing something, then so be it!
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What gives the government the authority to do that?
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What to raise Taxes on products? Junk Food and cigarettes are making nations sick by the day and its getting bigger. The USA being the biggest one! And your attitue is ''What gives the Government the authority to do that'', are you sick in the head? Do you have stock in a cigarette or a Twinkie company?

People are dying every day because of this Pandemic. The people who elect the Government should be telling the Government to take action on this matter. Not sit around and debate the rule book.

They just want more control.
 Quoting: Duke Silver


They only have control because we give it to them. Taking control over Taxes on Junk food and Cigarettes is something that benefits Society and would benefit Children the most. The only people who would lose out on this would be the Companys who make Cigarettes and Junk Food. Which is a Good thing!

Since when does the government "care"?
 Quoting: Duke Silver


People care. Who Elects the Government?

To your second point, it does have to do with Liberty.
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You have Liberty to Disagree with it. If you happen to be in the Minority, which i believe you are, then you just have to deal with that. Living in a Democracy means that you won't get everthing your way!

Because "The right thing" to you, might not be "the right thing" in my opinion, so why should your morals be forced on me.
 Quoting: Duke Silver


What would be the right thing in your Opinion?

just that the government has no right to tax it.
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Just because it isn't in the Governtment rule book doesn't mean its the wrong thing to do. We need to take action on this and if it means getting the Government changing something, then so be it!
 Quoting: Taggart87™


I am sorry, I just fundamentally disagree with your whole mind frame. With what you believe the government is there for.

Oh and by the way, we were not supposed to be a democracy, the minority ruled by the majority...we are a constitutional republic. Where the rights of the minority are protected.

I know I am not addressing your points, but just by the things you say, I know we will never see eye to eye....
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
I am sorry, I just fundamentally disagree with your whole mind frame. With what you believe the government is there for.

Oh and by the way, we were not supposed to be a democracy, the minority ruled by the majority...we are a constitutional republic. Where the rights of the minority are protected.
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Taxing Certain Products that are slowly killing people isn't a big ask and it wouldn't fundamentally change your structure of Government. It would fundamentally hurt the pockets of the people selling this stuff, who don't care about anything other than Power and Dollars.

If the USA made this positive effort, i believe many countries around the world would follow and how great would that be!
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I am sorry, I just fundamentally disagree with your whole mind frame. With what you believe the government is there for.

Oh and by the way, we were not supposed to be a democracy, the minority ruled by the majority...we are a constitutional republic. Where the rights of the minority are protected.
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Taxing Certain Products that are slowly killing people isn't a big ask and it wouldn't fundamentally change your structure of Government. It would fundamentally hurt the pockets of the people selling this stuff, who don't care about anything other than Power and Dollars.

If the USA made this positive effort, i believe many countries around the world would follow and how great would that be!
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Again...your fundamental mind frame is just different.
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I am sorry, I just fundamentally disagree with your whole mind frame. With what you believe the government is there for.

Oh and by the way, we were not supposed to be a democracy, the minority ruled by the majority...we are a constitutional republic. Where the rights of the minority are protected.
 Quoting: Duke Silver


Taxing Certain Products that are slowly killing people isn't a big ask and it wouldn't fundamentally change your structure of Government. It would fundamentally hurt the pockets of the people selling this stuff, who don't care about anything other than Power and Dollars.

If the USA made this positive effort, i believe many countries around the world would follow and how great would that be!
 Quoting: Taggart87™


Nothing against you, we just see it differently.
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Re: Sugary drinks to be taxed more - but its just another way the gov milks the tax payer.
I am sorry, I just fundamentally disagree with your whole mind frame. With what you believe the government is there for.

Oh and by the way, we were not supposed to be a democracy, the minority ruled by the majority...we are a constitutional republic. Where the rights of the minority are protected.
 Quoting: Duke Silver


Taxing Certain Products that are slowly killing people isn't a big ask and it wouldn't fundamentally change your structure of Government. It would fundamentally hurt the pockets of the people selling this stuff, who don't care about anything other than Power and Dollars.

If the USA made this positive effort, i believe many countries around the world would follow and how great would that be!
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Point is consumers will always lose through new schemes....
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Point is consumers will always lose through new schemes....
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The Cunsumer will have to pay more for the likes of Marlboro, Mars Bars and Coca Cola, even cheep Alcohol. The intention behind such an action would be to help crack down on Diabetes and Obesity. Why? Because its making people very sick and killing them.

The only people i see losing out on this are the people selling this crap and the pharmaceutical industry.

At the end of the day, if no action is taken, its only going to get worse and people in the near furture are going to look back an wonder why no serious action was taken.
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Point is consumers will always lose through new schemes....
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The Cunsumer will have to pay more for the likes of Marlboro, Mars Bars and Coca Cola, even cheep Alcohol. The intention behind such an action would be to help crack down on Diabetes and Obesity. Why? Because its making people very sick and killing them.

The only people i see losing out on this are the people selling this crap and the pharmaceutical industry.

At the end of the day, if no action is taken, its only going to get worse and people in the near furture are going to look back an wonder why no serious action was taken.
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Do you reallt think .gov cares about the people? You are delusional. They need us to be sick and fat....but they need $ too, this is how.
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Do you reallt think .gov cares about the people?
You are delusional. They need us to be sick and fat....but they need $ too, this is how.
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....and your solution is?
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And then if it doesent work they will eventually tax water and tell you its bad for you but they will! tax you because the rich already bought all property on earth and now they want to buy planets but that costs big money....
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Is it true that we will be getting SMART meters to measure the amount of each persons CO2 output, for the purpose of taxing it?
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