Is ignorance really bliss?

When the bliss is gone you find yourself standing there looking like george bush, stupid.

It's the absence of all things.

i hope that it is the putting of the mind into a spiritual sleep that brings the Bliss that we need, and the tremendous vitality of the body which we also need in these trying times.

The "bliss" will only be achieved if our state of mind, ie consciousness matches
that of the creator's (the sun) energy. Ever hear about the arrival of horus?

everything will change....in an instant.

bring it all on, its time for Bliss

One man's bliss is another mans

can be sometimes.

"and ye shall all be changed, in a moment, in a twinkling of an eye"

~Bible



that ain't new a new concept.

If ignorance is really bliss then every one in heavenly bliss would be ignorant,
So no I don't think ignorance is bliss, However I do believe ignorance is a choice that contradicts wisdom.

the ignorance that might be bliss
would be the kind of ignorance that
a mind has when it has been put into
a type of spiritual sleep, at which
point the inherent Bliss of the Inner Living Christ Light
infuses the body to such an extent that
it is radiating Bliss.

BTW OP, thanks for the thread

A lousy way to go through life

It's bliss until reality bites your ass

I'm Ready

Well stated in the original post.

"the ignorance that might be bliss
would be the kind of ignorance that
a mind has when it has been put into
a type of spiritual sleep, at which
point the inherent Bliss of the Inner Living Christ Light
infuses the body to such an extent that
it is radiating Bliss."


yes but if you freeze the mind so all wisdom inherited from Christ is frozen in the soul so any ignorance that trys to contradict the frozen matrix of wisdom would be offset by the wisdom frozen in place, hmmm how can I put it, it would be like a AI trigger or great complexity, when you trigger a function caused by ignorance wisdom is supplied to offset the ignorant aspects.

a function caused by ignorance, wisdom is supplied to offset the ignorant aspects.

a function caused by ignorance, wisdom is supplied to offset the ignorant aspects.

an automatic trigger basicly..

i would say to that . . . the wisdom of Christ is a Living Wisdom and sees all wisdom readily apparent in the moment so there would be nothing lost or frozen . . .

In context, the phrase means something similar, but slightly different, than when taken out of context. See last stanza.


Ode On A Distant Prospect Of Eton College
Thomas Gray

Ye distant spires, ye antique towers,
That crown the watery glade,
Where grateful Science still adores
Her Henry's holy shade;
And ye, that from the stately brow
Of Windsor's heights th' expanse below
Of grove, of lawn, of mead survey,
Whose turf, whose shade, whose flowers among
Wanders the hoary Thames along
His silver-winding way.

Ah happy hills, ah pleasing shade,
Ah fields beloved in vain,
Where once my careless childhood strayed,
A stranger yet to pain!
I feel the gales, that from ye blow,
A momentary bliss bestow,
As waving fresh their gladsome wing
My weary soul they seem to soothe,
And, redolent of joy and youth,
To breathe a second spring.

Say, Father Thames, for thou hast seen
Full many a sprightly race
Disporting on thy margent green
The paths of pleasure trace,
Who foremost now delight to cleave
With pliant arm thy glassy wave?
The captive linnet which enthral?
What idle progeny succeed
To chase the rolling circle's speed,
Or urge the flying ball?

While some on earnest business bent
Their murm'ring labours ply
'Gainst graver hours, that bring constraint
To sweeten liberty:
Some bold adventurers disdain
The limits of their little reign,
And unknown regions dare descry:
Still as they run they look behind,
They hear a voice in every wind,
And snatch a fearful joy.

Gay hope is theirs by fancy fed,
Less pleasing when possest;
The tear forgot as soon as shed,
The sunshine of the breast:
Theirs buxom health of rosy hue,
Wild wit, invention ever-new,
And lively cheer of vigour born;
The thoughtless day, the easy night,
The spirits pure, the slumbers light,
That fly th' approach of morn.

Alas! regardless of their doom
The little victims play!
No sense have they of ills to come,
Nor care beyond today:
Yet see how all around 'em wait
The Ministers of human fate,
And black Misfortune's baleful train!
Ah, show them where in ambush stand,
To seize their prey, the murd'rous band!
Ah, tell them they are men!

These shall the fury Passions tear,
The vultures of the mind,
Disdainful Anger, pallid Fear,
And Shame that skulks behind;
Or pining Love shall waste their youth,
Or Jealousy with rankling tooth,
That inly gnaws the secret heart,
And Envy wan, and faded Care,
Grim-visaged comfortless Despair,
And Sorrow's piercing dart.

Ambition this shall tempt to rise,
Then whirl the wretch from high,
To bitter Scorn a sacrifice,
And grinning Infamy.
The stings of Falsehood those shall try,
And hard Unkindness' altered eye,
That mocks the tear it forced to flow;
And keen Remorse with blood defiled,
And moody Madness laughing wild
Amid severest woe.

Lo, in the vale of years beneath
A grisly troop are seen,
The painful family of Death,
More hideous than their Queen:
This racks the joints, this fires the veins,
That every labouring sinew strains,
Those in the deeper vitals rage:
Lo, Poverty, to fill the band,
That numbs the soul with icy hand,
And slow-consuming Age.

To each his suff'rings: all are men,
Condemned alike to groan;
The tender for another's pain,
Th' unfeeling for his own.
Yet ah! why should they know their fate?
Since sorrow never comes too late,
And happiness too swiftly flies.
Thought would destroy their paradise.
No more;—where ignorance is bliss,
'Tis folly to be wise.

"Bliss" can be ignorant.

I love that response. Short and sweet and all i needed to hear

"i would say to that . . . the wisdom of Christ is a Living Wisdom and sees all wisdom readily apparent in the moment so there would be nothing lost or frozen . . ."

there is nothing lost or frozen in place, what is being said is the function of bliss freezes wisdom based thoughts in place with out thought having to be pondered or functioning in a forward motion,
you don't get the context of it, Jesus could feed the mind in a frozen heavenly blissful state wisdom and the wisdom is held in the memory the person does not access the wisdom frozen there, the person only automatically reacts to the given aspects headed their way and automatically responds and reacts with wisdom emitted outward toward the person,while at the same time retaining heavenly bliss. in the above example the person reacts by showing wisdom in response to a persons directed ignorance which is directed towards the blissful person, im not saying thats how it is, im just saying it is possible. anything is almost possible

i misread your first post and then moved over to another thread, yes my response wasn't accurate but the post is a little confusing

it wouldn't be the person automatically reacting, rather it would be Life responding, or Life living, we can throw out the responding and reacting, it would be Living, so what is that?

not frozen in place like a ice cube :),

bliss can only be ignorance so long as the person has a choice, which means the person needs to have willingness,but thats my view on it you may have a diffrence outlook I dont care really im not blinded by pride, so im open to any wisdom you have to share.

keep an open mind..

Ignorance is truly bliss...up until the last moment.

"it wouldn't be the person automatically reacting, rather it would be Life responding, or Life living, we can throw out the responding and reacting, it would be Living, so what is that?"

yea I see you point.and I think your right since there is no choice in the matter, im not really sure maybe existing in the state the mind first began?

is ignorance really bliss?

i think so...now that i am awake:) lol

being accountable sux.
TRULY
tee hee he
JMO

Ignorance is not the absence of knowledge, but the conscious decision to reject the obvious truth.

Some feel that the 'answer' is out there in the great beyond. It is not. You get the general idea of what "space" is, by objectivly looking within, at our organs, cells and atoms.

if it began in that state born in that state that is and assimilated apects around it maybe?

IS it 117..?

looks like, you got this all hemmed in.
i wish i did.....

i am a work in progress....I AM
lol

well, not existing but Living, not minding but Living, not thing-king but Living, dwelling within Bliss and Living. better get to that now, the world won't let us wait