Pull money from bank?

Yes, remove your 13.49 cents immediately.

honker down indeed

I really prefer to Hunker down

yeah, it might be a good time. If they drop the bomb, the banks will close up.

Well, if you follow Biblical prophesy, we've got at least 3 1/2 years till things REALLY get bad. The middle east will come to the very brink of destruction (like now) and then the antichrist steps in an negotiates a 3 1/2 year peace - or something like that.

yeah...having a few Ks worth of cash on hand is prudent...once something happens, the ATMs/banks will probably be closed...nothing to lose...is everything blows over, you can redeposit the money...

But....if things get TOO bad - money will be worthless.

its all in the timing...you gotta know the fiat is useless before the stores....

Water - food - medicine & lead - the prime commodities.

Take a pump-action, plenty shells, duct tape & bin-bags for your haul.
Good luck!!
Leave your motor running.

Don't be a fool! Absolutely not!

Don't forget cigarettes and TP. Both will become valuable for trade.

The way I look at it,
If NO ONE can get money from the banks, then money is worthless.

No one is going to want your $100 dollar bill for a can of beans. They're going to want the food they DON'T have on hand as a trade.

Maybe a bicycle in descent shape, or a good HAM Radio.

If NO ONE can get money from the bank, don't worry about your car payment or mortgage, because the bank isn't going to default on 6.2 million loans

I think we are there.

If you can get into gold and silver coins - it is easy enough to hide. A few hundred cash, and the rest in the nearly universal currancy - precious metals. But don't dive in with more than 5000 worth of silver coins or god bars. (The silver is a less money to deal with and you'll need smaller item transaction for gasoline if it's available and food, grains, etc.) Other than metals, the rest of the world will be bartering. Don't think that currency will be trusted again for a very long time. It will not. If the US defaults on its' obligations the world will have no where lese to turn other than to precious metals until the Mark of the Beast is offered, anyway.

You might consider that cash is usually a small item for daily operation of a bank. Most transactions are debit/credits, they likely have only $40-50K in cash; if that for a whole day.

In event of Martial Law, banks will likely close. In event of a "run", they will likely restrict how much cash you can withdraw. In other emergency situations, like Katrina/Rita evacuations, I think there was a $300 limit.

If you knew the bank was never going to reopen, how much would you stand to lose?


Think about rolls of coins. Quarters esp. If the money is devalued, they likely will not mint new coins, only "new dollar" bills. Quarters might also work in vending machines you chance to find.

$5, 10 & 20 bills are the preferred items. Maybe some $50's and a few hundreds. You might be able to pay bill by using Postal Money Orders, they only accept cash for those. Postal money orders are better than traveler's checks. Easier to cash, accepted as cash. Stamps are also pretty good currency.

Nice to at least have cash in hand during a crisis. 90% silver coins will likely serve to preserve your wealth much better in the days ahead. Small gold coins carry a high premium, but are a good idea if you have a lot of funds to protect/convert. A bag of 90% coins weighs about 50lbs compared to under a pound for that much gold.


No one can advise you "when" will be the last time you can make "normal purchases". Hopefully, you have most of what you need already. Not much need in getting out into the fray if you don't really have to.

God Bless

good idea about the coins lester...I have a large container that I toss my pocket change into daily...usually around $400 when I take it to the coinstar machine yearly...

Just before the final dip, shopping for food/neccessities may not be wise as everyone is thinking the same thing...however if I know the dollar is going down for the last time, I would go buy stuff like deep cycle batteries, denatured alchohol/kerosene from paint stores,motor oil, etc....stuff thats useful but probably won't be thought of by the average joe...they'll be busy at the supermarkets...

I even made lists of items to get and the stores to get them from....avoiding the herd at all times...

whatever dollars are left over can be used as

after that, barter/PMs will be the order of the day...

Pietro,

I'd sure like to see some items from your list. I figure some of these might be better to own than money:

motor oil, spare filters, spark plugs, grease
.22LR and other popular ammunition
Reloading eqpt & supplies
fishing gear
solder and solder irons
files, hacksaw blades, fabrication eqpt
precision tools
extra SAE and Metric socket tools and sets like from Sears
plywood, plastic roll goods, nails, fastening screws
propane powered nailguns
chainsaws, spare chain and bars
2 stroke oil TC3 spec Castrol snowmobile oil
Strike Anywhere Kitchen Matches
Welding Strikers and flints
Zippo lighters, flints & fluid, Propane
Propane in 100lb bottles with double pigtail hose to fill smaller bottles
Adapter valve to refill 8oz propane cylinders from 5 gal bulk propane tank
Siphon hose
Plastic plumbing fittings and glues
Variety of superglue, epoxy, goops and plastic welders
Variety of sewing notions, fabric, zippers
Good used clothing for trade/barter
Large selection of cast iron cookware
Carburetor cleaners, brake fluid, starter fluid
Solar panel for trickle charging batteries
Misc electric connectors for making adapters
Anything for 12v
Auto light bulbs
Rechargeable 9v, AA, AAA, & D cell batteries
Variety of battery chargers
Jumper cables
Synthetic oil for gensets
Stabil for gasoline preservation
Metal Blitz 5gal jerry cans or GI surplus
50 gal storage drums for fuel w/pump
K&N filter cleaning kits

Food stuff also:
Pepper, salt, sugar, seasonings, honey, vinegars, soy sauce, minced garlic
Canned tomatoes, tomato paste, ketchup in #10 cans
Peanut Butter, Jellies
#10 canned fruits
Pastas
Canned beans and meats
Candy & Soda
Crackers, cookies
Coffee and Coffee filters basket & cone sizes
Tea bags and bulk packs


Lots of great stuff you can get cheap at Resale/Thrift stores:
Kitchen utensils, knives, pots/pans
towels, blankets, sheets, sleeping bags
Tents, backpacks, water bottles, fishing rods, hats, wool socks, blue jeans, nylon or goretex jackets
Durable plates and silverware

You can find used stuff at thrift stores that is better than you want to spend on new items. Just takes some looking. Spend a day roaming through them all in your area. Take a couple hundred bucks. You will be amazed at what you can find. Maybe you could sell some on Ebay?

10 speed and Mountainbikes are very common at resales. $10 or $20 will get you a good bike, maybe a name brand one. Maybe you can find a decent lawnmower. It's possible to remove the blade and make it into a battery charger by hooking a pulley & belt up to a used auto alternator. Always lots of uses for gasoline motors.

You might try the salvage yards. A genset with a siezed motor can be fixed or removed and used with another motor.

If you really have the bux to employ, consider buying several of the little 2kw Honda quiet generators. They will be worth Big Bux to somebody.

Nice to have a good covered trailer. They work well for storage or for relocating.


How about First Aid and Medicines?
Aspirin, Motrin, Sudaphed, Benadryl etc
Band Aids, Ace Bandages, Superglue for bad cuts, athletic tape
Hydrogen Peroxide, Alcohol, witch hazel
mouthwash, toothepaste, toothebrushes, combs, Lice Combs and medicines!!! condoms, feminine hygeine products, shampoo, soap, plastic razors

Bug repellant, Decon rat baits

Zip loc baggies all sizes
Garbage bags, can liners all sizes