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Airman denied reenlistment for refusing to say 'so help me God'

 
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It's all about collecting your government welfare check, keeping your mouth shut, following orders of the fat slop hogs above you, telling you to kill, load the bombs or wash the airplane wheels, and collecting that sweet pension after 20 years,
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No room for individual thinkers. The corporations/illuminati/demons want somebody dead, by gawd you better be ready to do it, or they dopn't want your ass
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Just ridicule that a nation like the USA in the XXI century still makes official this religious crap of reciting "so help me god" or swear on the bible...
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Now he won't get any of those cracker jack medals and standardized awards and certificates to frame and hang on his wall by his recliner where he spends the day drinking beer and watching fox news after he retires
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Matthew 5
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Oaths

33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ 34 But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37 All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
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this
 Quoting: FatRambo


"So help me God" is a PRAYER for God's help.
America is a Christian nation.
The largest Christian nation on Earth
despite our present Satanic federal government.
America's motto is,
"In God We Trust"
It is on many monuments and all of our money.
80% of all Americans claim they are Christians.


If you would feel more comfortable in some pagan
nation, I'll pay for your one-way ticket.

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Matthew 5
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Oaths

33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ 34 But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37 All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49905892


this
 Quoting: FatRambo


"So help me God" is a PRAYER for God's help.
America is a Christian nation.
The largest Christian nation on Earth
despite our present Satanic federal government.
America's motto is,
"In God We Trust"
It is on many monuments and all of our money.
80% of all Americans claim they are Christians.


If you would feel more comfortable in some pagan
nation, I'll pay for your one-way ticket.


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clappa
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Interesting thread to wake up to, thanks for the discussion.
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"So help me God" is a PRAYER for God's help.
America is a Christian nation.
The largest Christian nation on Earth
despite our present Satanic federal government.
America's motto is,
"In God We Trust"
It is on many monuments and all of our money.
80% of all Americans claim they are Christians.


If you would feel more comfortable in some pagan
nation, I'll pay for your one-way ticket.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62623819


"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Treaty of Tripoli 1797
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How about you give me that money for a ticket?
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America is a country of ragingly insane hypocrites who all have convinced themselves they have their own little personal jesus they have created in their own deluded minds, to protect them from the monstrous atrocities they see being done all around them by their own government, that they can do nothing about.
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^^^
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God save America, God save the Queen?.

Fuck off tptb cuhnts.
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Well, good. If he was an airman, he knows to follow orders.

This is a petty issue. If he doesn't believe in God, then what is the problem?

This is just another one of those morans who gets hurt when they can't control things around them.

Those characters are not welcome in the service, I know.



Oh well for him, he had a choice.
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America is a country of ragingly insane hypocrites who all have convinced themselves they have their own little personal jesus they have created in their own deluded minds, to protect them from the monstrous atrocities they see being done all around them by their own government, that they can do nothing about.
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hesright
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If you don't wanna take the oath....you probably don't belong there.
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"Raise your right hand and put the left on the bible" or lower the left..........making the Baphomet sign?
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"So help me God" is a PRAYER for God's help.
America is a Christian nation.
The largest Christian nation on Earth
despite our present Satanic federal government.
America's motto is,
"In God We Trust"
It is on many monuments and all of our money.
80% of all Americans claim they are Christians.


If you would feel more comfortable in some pagan
nation, I'll pay for your one-way ticket.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62623819


"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Treaty of Tripoli 1797
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


I believe I said SATANIC government, didn't I?
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An atheist airman at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada was denied reenlistment last month for refusing to take an oath containing “so help me God,” the American Humanist Association said Thursday.

According to the AHA, the unnamed airman was told Aug. 25 that the Air Force would not accept his contract because he had crossed out the phrase “so help me God.” The airman was told his only options were to sign the religious oath section of the contract without adjustment and recite an oath concluding with “so help me God,” or leave the Air Force, the AHA said.

[link to www.airforcetimes.com]
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Good!
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If you don't wanna take the oath....you probably don't belong to tptb.
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Fixed for you.

sheep
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If you don't wanna take the oath....you probably don't belong to tptb.
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Fixed for you.

sheep
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You're a great example of why the UK is no longer a world power.

tard
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"So help me God" is a PRAYER for God's help.
America is a Christian nation.
The largest Christian nation on Earth
despite our present Satanic federal government.
America's motto is,
"In God We Trust"
It is on many monuments and all of our money.
80% of all Americans claim they are Christians.


If you would feel more comfortable in some pagan
nation, I'll pay for your one-way ticket.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62623819


"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Treaty of Tripoli 1797
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


I believe I said SATANIC government, didn't I?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62623819


I thought it was the land of the Free. Free to choose your religion.
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Matthew 5
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Oaths

33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ 34 But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37 All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49905892


this
 Quoting: FatRambo


"So help me God" is a PRAYER for God's help.
America is a Christian nation.
The largest Christian nation on Earth
despite our present Satanic federal government.
America's motto is,
"In God We Trust"
It is on many monuments and all of our money.
80% of all Americans claim they are Christians.


If you would feel more comfortable in some pagan
nation, I'll pay for your one-way ticket.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62623819


hesright
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If he cannot follow an order as simple as taking an oath, then he cant be counted on.
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Yes, this is the real reason. That is why they use it. This guy has admin burden written all over him.
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Agreed. Also, he marked out a phrase on a military contract! Who does this piece of shit think he is? He was probably a dirtbag and they were looking for a reason to can him. F! this guy...moving on!
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good who the hell wants atheists in the military
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"So help me God" is a PRAYER for God's help.
America is a Christian nation.
The largest Christian nation on Earth
despite our present Satanic federal government.
America's motto is,
"In God We Trust"
It is on many monuments and all of our money.
80% of all Americans claim they are Christians.


If you would feel more comfortable in some pagan
nation, I'll pay for your one-way ticket.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62623819


"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Treaty of Tripoli 1797
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


I believe I said SATANIC government, didn't I?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62623819


I thought it was the land of the Free. Free to choose your religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62133477


True, but then the people of United States don't have to hire you.

After all, you could be a follower of a "Ba"al" sect and barbecue kids or such
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so what did he do the first time? American humanist....pukes.

On another note, the word "god" is the name of an ancient Egyptian deity of luck. And does not refer the Creator of all things so I would have problem with the oath myself. The god of the US military is not something I would want to have any dealing with....just look at their symbolism. btw I am from Texas and have bled for my country so don't even go there....course that all happened when I was young an ignorant to the real world.
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What, do you have a link or something on that one?
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To me this is a attack on the first amendment of your constitution.

---Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[---

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Treaty of Tripoli 1797
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


I believe I said SATANIC government, didn't I?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62623819


I thought it was the land of the Free. Free to choose your religion.
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True, but then the people of United States don't have to hire you.

After all, you could be a follower of a "Ba"al" sect and barbecue kids or such
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barbecuing kids are the bombs/drones job not the people dropping them.

scratching
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An atheist airman at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada was denied reenlistment last month for refusing to take an oath containing “so help me God,” the American Humanist Association said Thursday.

According to the AHA, the unnamed airman was told Aug. 25 that the Air Force would not accept his contract because he had crossed out the phrase “so help me God.” The airman was told his only options were to sign the religious oath section of the contract without adjustment and recite an oath concluding with “so help me God,” or leave the Air Force, the AHA said.

[link to www.airforcetimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62395807


Good.

Keep the libtards out. Tired of the athiests who believe in nothing.
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For someone who doesn't believe in the Semitic BS (say a real northern heathen), the phrase left in possibly invalidates the oath, giving them a legal out.

It would be, in essence, the equivalence of "so help him Santa Claus" or "Tooth Fairy".





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