Kezar Stanyan
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09/17/2014 07:09 PM
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Report Copyright Violation | House DEMS 'wary' of arming Syrian Rebels in tomorrow's vote [ link to www.cnn.com] In a floor speech Wednesday, Sen. Joe Manchin, a centrist Democrat from West Virginia, cited reports that some of the moderate Syrian rebels the United States wants to arm had sold the American journalist Steven Sotloff to ISIS, which murdered him.
"Are those people our allies?" he asked. "I strongly believe that if our military arms and trains Syrian rebels, we will be involving ourselves in a ground conflict we cannot resolve, where potentially everyone involved is our enemy," Manchin said.Decent point. Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Missouri, a member of the Armed Services Committee, pushed back on critics of the President's plan. She said the U.S. intelligence community will play an important role in vetting the rebels and that training could take up to a year before arms are provided.
"All of those people criticizing this choice, I have yet to hear their better idea," she said.Here's an idea: STOP. Syrian Regime=Assad Syrian Rebels=?? ISIS=?? Conjecture is all we have and we want to arm rebels? Against the same force that wants Assad dead? I don't see strong evidence that Syrian Rebels and ISIS have a clearly defined conflict - especially once you see the Syrian regime's reluctance to allow bombings... This old article from January explains some of the seeds of infighting between Syrian Rebels and ISIS, but it doesn't paint a clear picture at all. [ link to www.clarionproject.org] All this fighting [between rebel forces] will only weaken the revolution and help the regime. We, in the Islamic Front, did not take the decision to fight ISIS, but whoever did it had his reasons because of the way ISIS treats other groups. ISIS denies reality, refusing to recognize that it is simply another group. It refuses to go to independent courts; it attacked many other groups, stole their weapons, occupied their headquarters, and arbitrarily apprehended numerous activists, journalists and rebels. It has been torturing its prisoners. These transgressions accumulated, and people got fed up with ISIS. Some of those people have attacked ISIS’s positions, but ISIS was first to attack in other places, bringing this on itself.In other words, we might as well call it what it is: let's arm Syrian Rebels AND ISIS to kill Assad, and clean up the mess afterwards. It didn't make much sense before, but now I see that stupidity from our President actually makes sense in and of itself. “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.” - Frank Herbert
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the blah, then to the Gentile. For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.” Romans 1:16-17
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09/19/2014 01:18 PM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: House DEMS 'wary' of arming Syrian Rebels in tomorrow's vote So essentially in 2014 the author, Dr. Landis, posits that Assad created ISIS and ISIS works for Assad?
I hate to disagree with someone so scholarly, who even lived in the Middle East, and I agree that infighting among the rebels weakens an overall goal to overthrow Assad, but I don't think it's a very logical and thorough statement. In fact, it could be propaganda created by the moderate rebel forces.
From his article:
"The Syrian opposition Coalition claims that ISIS is a regime inspired organization, designed to undermine the principles of the revolution and pervert the meaning of Islam. Chants of “Assad and D`ASH are one” have been repeated at many recent demonstrations against ISIS. (DA`ASH is the acronym in Arabic for ISIS or Dawla al-Islamiyya fi-l `Iraq wa Sham). The Coalition told AP that:
The Syrian National Coalition believes that ISIS is closely linked to the terrorist regime and serves the interests of the clique of President Bashar Al-Assad…. The murder of Syrians by this group leaves no doubt about the intentions behind their creation, their objectives, and the agendas they service, which is confirmed by the nature of their terrorist actions that are hostile to the Syrian revolution."
Worth looking at recent articles written by Landis as well, more importantly, looking at ISIS itself more closely from the articles posted around here:
Who launders ISIS money? Where do the profits go?
Does ISIS ideology and religion align closer to Saudi/Qatar or Assad?
What is The Clarion Project's main agenda? Moderatism. |
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09/19/2014 01:22 PM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: House DEMS 'wary' of arming Syrian Rebels in tomorrow's vote Just give them nukes  |
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09/19/2014 01:42 PM
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Report Copyright Violation | Re: House DEMS 'wary' of arming Syrian Rebels in tomorrow's vote Hey Kezar, check out this article. Pretty interesting. [ link to eaworldview.com] |
