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BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **

 
TEOTWAIKI

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09/25/2014 08:08 AM

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BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
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KIEV: President Petro Poroshenko on Thursday ordered a temporary closure of Ukraine’s porous border with Russia and voiced plans to apply for EU membership in 2020 as part of his ex-Soviet country’s Westward shift.

A senior Ukrainian security source told AFP that the border security measures was designed to halt the alleged smuggling of weapons into the separatist east and would enter into force “soon”.

The two steps underscore the extent of Kiev’s alienation from its historic master and deal a further blow to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s dream of folding Ukraine into a Kremlin-led alliance that could rival Nato and the European Union.
TEOTWAIKI  (OP)

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"Obama told a special session of the UN General Assembly that Russia was on the wrong side of history in Ukraine and facing still further isolation from the West.

But he also offered to lift punishing economic sanctions against Moscow if it threw its weight behind an unravelling peace deal with Kiev designed to end fighting that has killed more than 3,200 and forced 650,000 from their homes.

Obama promised to “lift our sanctions and welcome Russia’s role in addressing common challenges” if the Kremlin “changes course”.

The outstretched hand to Moscow came a day after pro-Russian guerrillas brushed off the terms of a peace deal under which they would receive limited self-rule but remain part of Ukraine."

The insurgents announced plans to set up their own parliaments and elect new leaders in self-organised November 2 polls.
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09/25/2014 08:51 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
Fuck off..

We dont want em!
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09/25/2014 08:57 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
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"Obama told a special session of the UN General Assembly that Russia was on the wrong side of history in Ukraine and facing still further isolation from the West.

But he also offered to lift punishing economic sanctions against Moscow if it threw its weight behind an unravelling peace deal with Kiev designed to end fighting that has killed more than 3,200 and forced 650,000 from their homes.

Obama promised to “lift our sanctions and welcome Russia’s role in addressing common challenges” if the Kremlin “changes course”.

The outstretched hand to Moscow came a day after pro-Russian guerrillas brushed off the terms of a peace deal under which they would receive limited self-rule but remain part of Ukraine."

The insurgents announced plans to set up their own parliaments and elect new leaders in self-organised November 2 polls.
 Quoting: TEOTWAIKI


I hope Putin doubles down.
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09/25/2014 08:59 AM
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09/25/2014 09:16 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
Most clear-thinking Europeans would prefer to get out of the EUSSR, and these idiots want to get in.
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09/25/2014 09:18 AM

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Noone ever bothered to ask the eu citizens what they think about this....
:kkwapper:
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09/25/2014 09:22 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
Russian shills have finally taught the west to hate itself by proxy by refusing to allow or help those desperate to escape Russian tyranny simple entry into what passed for a collection of relatively free non Russian controlled nations.

Everyone forgets that Russia attempted to subjugate Europe and destroy the west for decades, that all it's military industrial complex which is essentially the whole of it's economy was designed and built to attack the west and that the current leader is a sincere and accomplishe disciple of that philosophy.
The fact is simple, Russia has attempted to conquer Europe in the past and has never made a non-aggressive non selfish offer to anyone outside its borders.

Russian shills bullshit reply in 5, 4, 3, 2....
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09/25/2014 09:24 AM
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Russian shills have finally taught the west to hate itself by proxy by refusing to allow or help those desperate to escape Russian tyranny simple entry into what passed for a collection of relatively free non Russian controlled nations.

Everyone forgets that Russia attempted to subjugate Europe and destroy the west for decades, that all it's military industrial complex which is essentially the whole of it's economy was designed and built to attack the west and that the current leader is a sincere and accomplishe disciple of that philosophy.
The fact is simple, Russia has attempted to conquer Europe in the past and has never made a non-aggressive non selfish offer to anyone outside its borders.

Russian shills bullshit reply in 5, 4, 3, 2....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


butthurt9
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09/25/2014 09:26 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
further blow to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s dream of folding Ukraine into a Kremlin-led alliance that could rival Nato and the European Union.

The outstretched hand to Moscow came a day after pro-Russian guerrillas brushed off the terms of a peace deal under which they would receive limited self-rule but remain part of Ukraine.

yup. looks like another 'blow' to Russia when the US / Ukraine is trying to make a deal.

If Ukraine was 'winning' do you really think they would negotiate?
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09/25/2014 09:27 AM
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We don't fucking want them in EU.
But as always we (the people) doesn't have a say in the matter.
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09/25/2014 09:41 AM
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Fuck off..

We dont want em!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28235667


Scotland doesn't want the English either, but things are sometimes rigged that way....
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09/25/2014 09:49 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
Most clear-thinking Europeans would prefer to get out of the EUSSR, and these idiots want to get in.
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So true. I owe You a beer for that.
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
further blow to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s dream of folding Ukraine into a Kremlin-led alliance that could rival Nato and the European Union.

The outstretched hand to Moscow came a day after pro-Russian guerrillas brushed off the terms of a peace deal under which they would receive limited self-rule but remain part of Ukraine.

yup. looks like another 'blow' to Russia when the US / Ukraine is trying to make a deal.

If Ukraine was 'winning' do you really think they would negotiate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3327691


The thing is that Ukrainians have been enslaved and abused by Russia for centuries.
Only by force of Russians and their conationalists infiltrated throughout the country can this attempted abusive marriage be maintained.
The people of Europes former captive nations want freedom from Russia.
What makes one want to deny that?
If you think refusing aid to your own kind makes you clever you aren't clever enough to understand that by allowing and applauding a bully to cut anothers throat that you give tacit permission to have your own throat cut.
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09/25/2014 09:50 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
Most clear-thinking Europeans would prefer to get out of the EUSSR, and these idiots want to get in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63245034


So true. I owe You a beer for that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52497131


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09/25/2014 09:51 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
Noone ever bothered to ask the eu citizens what they think about this....
 Quoting: KipKat


You make a mistake when You think it is a democracy.
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09/25/2014 09:52 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
Really?
What do you have to replace it?

Caliphate?
Islam?
What?

You cannot survive on your own against a dedicated aggressor that controls area and resources that span 9 time zones and feels entitlement to control all Europe for it's own benefit.
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09/25/2014 09:54 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
You cannot survive on your own against a dedicated aggressor that controls area and resources that span 9 time zones and feels entitlement to control all Europe for it's own benefit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Are You talking about America?
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
Most clear-thinking Europeans would prefer to get out of the EUSSR, and these idiots want to get in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63245034


So true. I owe You a beer for that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52497131


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58837645


You collections of Russian hasbaroids thing that only Russian nationalism is valid.
You shillskies really need to move to Russia to benefit from Vlads love for his people. Even Vlads own daughter refuses to live in Russia preferring to live in that multiculti sewer that is Holland. Why is that?
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09/25/2014 10:03 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
You cannot survive on your own against a dedicated aggressor that controls area and resources that span 9 time zones and feels entitlement to control all Europe for it's own benefit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Are You talking about America?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52497131


You confuse the potential with the actual.

The US isnt invading any European country against it's will.
The US isnt threatening nuclear war
The US isnt intentionally invading other nations airspaces, isnt kidnapping nationals and isnt claiming all manner of conspiracies against it.
The US hasnt shot down any European airliners.
The US hasnt shot down any European military aircraft.
The US hasnt fired a shot at any European civilians or soldiers.
The US hasnt occupied any European cities.

We could play 'lets pretend' all day but you and your pals get paid for it and I don't.

It's liberals that rewrite reality and history because the truth and facts are lethal to them.
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09/25/2014 10:04 AM
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Well mr Loudmouth American, read a book, travel the world (and no, not through your army) and hopefully learn something other than 'Murica the greatest.

My family escaped from the russians during ww2. The hate for russians is deep in my genes. Still I don't Think redneck yanks have any business in eastern europe.
If russian would start to poke around Canada You would start running around screaming like litle Girls. Oh, thats what happened back in -62.

Go back to McDonalds and eat Another 'burger. Thats all you are able to do anyway.
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09/25/2014 10:05 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
Fuck off..

We dont want em!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28235667


Scotland doesn't want the English either, but things are sometimes rigged that way....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63158299


Thought maths would be a problem for an Merican.

Can you add to donut?
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09/25/2014 10:10 AM
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Thought maths would be a problem for an Merican.

Can you add to donut?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28235667


Not without half a gallon of Coca cola and a caalcuhlatahh.
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09/25/2014 10:14 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
The proletariat Ukrainians need to understand that union with Mother Russia is the only viable option open to them. The capitalist corrupt Brussels regime is not the answer. Financial slavery will follow and will be utterly complete if they chose the EU path.
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09/25/2014 10:14 AM
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They can seek shit...
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09/25/2014 10:16 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
The proletariat Ukrainians need to understand that union with Mother Russia is the only viable option open to them. The capitalist corrupt Brussels regime is not the answer. Financial slavery will follow and will be utterly complete if they chose the EU path.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16489306


You need to become British crown property too then.
Irony escapes you, doesnt it?
Anonymous Coward
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09/25/2014 10:18 AM
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Again you make the mistake of overgeneralizing.
You have much to attend to in your own country before you start handing out advice.
Fuckoff
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09/25/2014 10:22 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
There are no Americans in Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60275215


Just as there were no russian military either. Yup, you're so right.
Just because nobody is standing waving the stars&stripes-flag doesn't mean there isn't strong representation on the ground. It was very clear during the riots.

Have Another bucket of cola son.
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09/25/2014 10:22 AM
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Here they are..

"The league of unbelievably ugly child raping sex fiends" aka Backwater

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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09/25/2014 10:36 AM
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Re: BREAKING ** Ukraine to shut Russia border, seek EU membership **
how do you shut the border that you don't control?! it's like Poroshenko saying he wants to close the border between Spain and Portugal
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09/25/2014 10:50 AM
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He is just a talking head trying to look that he has Control.





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