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Religious Fundamentalism Must Be Destroyed.

 
Naturyl
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Religious Fundamentalism Must Be Destroyed.
ASAP.
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Kay
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ASAP.
 Quoting: Naturyl



Do you even know what 'fundamentalism' means?

It means that there are core beliefs that are 'fundamental' that must be held in order to be in that classification.

Christian fundamentalists believe:

Fundamentalist Christianity, or Christian fundamentalism is a movement which arose mainly within American Protestantism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by conservative evangelical Christians, who, in a reaction to modernism, actively affirmed a "fundamental" set of Christian beliefs: the inerrancy of the Bible, the virgin birth of Christ, the doctrine of substitutionary atonement, the bodily resurrection of Jesus, and the authenticity of his miracles.

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This is from wikipedia.

I'm not sure beliefs of these really bug you. Perhaps you could elaborate?
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The inerrancy of the Bible, primarily.

Bible is a remarkably nasty book.
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Carthago delenda est!
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The inerrancy of the Bible, primarily.

Bible is a remarkably nasty book, particularly the Old Testament.
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Naturyl, Jesus Christ referred to the Old Testament often. I guess you know more than Him????????
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Just as our conflicts are becoming essentially 4D ( ie about ethics,fairness, moralty), so it will be with the ascension, those embroiled in fixed mental patterns in order to 'manage' emotional priorities ( ie fundamentalists, nationalists, leftists etc) will have the rug swept from under them. Whilst those who are able to swim in the sea of dynamic mental patterns, that are the hallmark of liberal democracies will be able to navigate the comming turmoil far better.
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I see the fundamentalists phillosopy has rubbed off on you.
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Every post this nasty fuk makes is anti you know who. HE/she has an agenda. It will one day pay for it's blasphemy. You can disbelieve all you want, but trolling for fights with anti-Jesus reteric is crazy.

What if you are wrong you pompus ass and wind up where you think not?
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The inerrancy of the Bible, primarily.

Bible is a remarkably nasty book, particularly the Old Testament.

 Quoting: Naturyl


Actually, the Bible is an extremely beautiful book.

Even the Old Testament.

I will give you an example.

Much of the Torah (the first 5 books of the Bible) is dedicated to CIVIL law that was put into place for the Nation of Israel to follow.

In this civil law, you get the first concept of 'bankruptcy'.

Every 7 years, all debt is eliminated. So, every Israeli citizen was 'free and clear' every 7 years.

Pretty cool, I think! And VERY progressive in that time period.

You could not even own a slave more than 7 years.


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I think that people misunderstand the Bible. They also don't take into consideration the CULTURE that these books were written.

Another example:

Did you know that Christianity was the very first religion to ban polygamy?

In the first century church, a man could not be a leader in the church if he had more than one wife. That is in the book of Timothy, in the New Testament.

The Bible and the concept of equality has inspired many movements in the past.

For example, did you know that the emancipation of slaves began as a movement in the Presbyterian churches in the northwest in the mid 1800s? That is where it began. It swept the North and within a few years, there was the Emancipation Proclamation, which of course triggered the Civil War.

Another example: The Civil Rights movement in the 1960s came out of the Baptist Church, remember, Martin Luther King was a REVEREND. He saw nothing in HIS Bible that said one should be above another for any reason at all.

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Perhaps YOU have been brainwashed.

You can google any of this stuff. It is easy to find.
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Isn't he emporer kento in diguise?
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From wikipedia.

This is regarding the abolition of slavery in GREAT BRITIAN:

petition to parliament.

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The movement for abolition gains momentum
In May 1787, the Committee for the Abolition of the Slave Trade was formed, referring to the Atlantic slave trade, the trafficking in slaves by British merchants operating in British colonies and other countries. Granville Sharp, Thomas Clarkson and other members of the Clapham Sect of evangelical reformers were among the 12 committee members, some of whom were Quakers. Quakers could then not become MPs, so William Wilberforce was persuaded to become the leader of the parliamentary campaign. Clarkson was the group's researcher who gathered vast amounts of information about the slave trade.

A network of local abolition groups was established across the country. They campaigned through public meetings, the publication of pamphlets and petitions. The movement had support from Quakers, Baptists, Methodists and others, and reached out for support from the new industrial workers. Even women and children, previously un-politicised groups, got involved.



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Abolitionist began with "evangelical reformers... the movement had support from Quakers, Baptists, Methodists, and others..."
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Are you promoting genocide again, Adolph?

Shame on you!
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the spirits in Naturyl have been rebuked in Jesus Name
it won't be able to mock anymore
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Um, sorry. "It" is still mocking. laugh laugh laugh
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Naturyl  (OP)

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Are you promoting genocide again, Adolph?

Shame on you!
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Nope. I did not say that fundies themselves must be destroyed. What must be destroyed is the *belief.*

Can't make that distinction? Not surprising.
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you're wrong. it cannot be destroyed because that would only be attacking the symptom of a much larger disease.

fundies are just people.
frightened, sometimes dangerously ignorant, but they symbolize just how UNCONSCIOUS this planet is.

they are a call for everyone to wake our asses up.

secondly, they are a witness to the ancient teachers. either you understand their dystopian wisdom or you don't.

don't let anyone tell you who your "enemy" is.
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Abolitionism in United States

The Society for the Relief of Free Negroes Unlawfully Held in Bondage was the first American abolition society, formed April 14, 1775, in Philadelphia, primarily by Quakers who had a strong religious objection.


It ceased to operate during the Revolution and the British occupation of Philadelphia; it was reorganized in 1784, with Benjamin Franklin as first president[4]. Benjamin Rush was a leader, as were many Quakers. African Slavery in America was one of the earliest calls for abolition; it appeared in the Pennsylvania Magazine and some scholars believe Thomas Paine wrote it.

The abolitionist movement was strengthened by the activities of free African-Americans, especially in the black church, who argued that the old Biblical justifications for slavery contradicted the New Testament. African-American activists and their writings were rarely heard outside the black community; however, they were tremendously influential to some sympathetic whites, most prominently the first white activist to reach prominence, William Lloyd Garrison, who was its most effective propagandist. Garrison's efforts to recruit eloquent spokesmen led to the discovery of ex-slave Frederick Douglass, who eventually became a prominent activist in his own right. Eventually, Douglass would publish his own, widely distributed abolitionist newspaper, the North Star.

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from wikipedia.

So, as you can see, the Quaker Church, both in England and in America, began the Abolition movement, strengthened by the teachings of the New Testament.
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So, what is wrong with you guys, you just want to live in hate?

You don't want to discuss the actual truth?

The fact that Christianity has actually been the catalyst for progress in the Modern world?

That the Bible has actually given us the basis for some of our most humane common law today?
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What Protestant group believes in Virgin Mary????
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you're wrong. it cannot be destroyed because that would only be attacking the symptom of a much larger disease.

fundies are just people.
frightened, sometimes dangerously ignorant, but they symbolize just how UNCONSCIOUS this planet is.

 Quoting: siddharhartha 119467


Strange you should say this when every major social battle for good that has won about in the last 500 years, has been based upon the principles of the Bible.

It wasn't won by Hinduism, or Buddhism, or paganism, or Islam. No sir.

Have you nothing to say about that?

Can you tell me one social evil that has been changed by any of these other religions?
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What Protestant group believes in Virgin Mary????
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None.
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ASAP.
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So, what is wrong with you guys, you just want to live in hate?
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Not everyone is like you, Kay.

Tell us again how evil all Muslims are.


You don't want to discuss the actual truth?
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I will, but I fear you have nothing to bring to the table.


The fact that Christianity has actually been the catalyst for progress in the Modern world?
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Are you kidding?

If anything, Christianity set the world back decades, perhaps centuries in progress.

Did you ever hear about the Dark Ages or did your sunday school skip over that?


That the Bible has actually given us the basis for some of our most humane common law today?
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The Ten Commandments are not exclusive to the Bible, and modern Christians like yourself ignore the Commandments anyway.
COGITO, ERGO, SUM
Kay
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I mean really, answer my question!

Or at least answer this:

How would you like it if the country where you live - put into place a law that states this:

EVERY SEVEN YEARS, YOU ARE DEBT FREE.

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I would like that, would you?
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It sure would be nice to be debt free every seven years Kay, but the Zionists you think are "God's chosen people" are all about usury and bleeding as much from the lower classes as possible.

I agree with that Jesus guy who opposed the moneylenders.
COGITO, ERGO, SUM
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So, what is wrong with you guys, you just want to live in hate?
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Not everyone is like you, Kay.

Tell us again how evil all Muslims are.


You don't want to discuss the actual truth?
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I will, but I fear you have nothing to bring to the table.


The fact that Christianity has actually been the catalyst for progress in the Modern world?
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Are you kidding?

If anything, Christianity set the world back decades, perhaps centuries in progress.

Did you ever hear about the Dark Ages or did your sunday school skip over that?


That the Bible has actually given us the basis for some of our most humane common law today?
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The Ten Commandments are not exclusive to the Bible, and modern Christians like yourself ignore the Commandments anyway.
 Quoting: Soothsayer

bsflag


Hmm, you obviously didn't read my posts, where I showed these social ills were fought and won by the 'fundamentalists' you so abhor?

slavery
polygamy
segregationism
women's rights/voting

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perhaps you don't think these were good moral goals?
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It sure would be nice to be debt free every seven years Kay, but the Zionists you think are "God's chosen people" are all about usury and bleeding as much from the lower classes as possible.

I agree with that Jesus guy who opposed the moneylenders.
 Quoting: Soothsayer



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We are discussing the Bible, not those who are supposed to follow it.

Someone said the Old Testament was 'nasty' and that is far from the truth.

The 'jubilee' is just one example. It is the basis for our bankruptcy laws today.
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slavery
polygamy
segregationism
women's rights/voting
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Wow....you claim Christianity responsible for abolishing all these?

I thought we were going to discuss facts, not fables.
COGITO, ERGO, SUM
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Someone said the Old Testament was 'nasty' and that is far from the truth.
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The OT is nothing more than revisionist history.


The 'jubilee' is just one example. It is the basis for our bankruptcy laws today.
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Which bankruptcy laws?

They have changed TWICE in the last ten years to make bankruptcy less desireable for the common citizen.
COGITO, ERGO, SUM
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Agreed.

Fundamentalists usually dont even know the God they say they worship.

They cause more harm, than they spread love.

All they are most of the time are soapbox mouthpieces.

I have seen one here. He belongs to one of the more off-the-wall denominations, Pentecostals, saying that America is the new Babylon.

These people get under my skin. It's really bad when your religion causes you to be un-patriotic.

Un-patriotic to a nation whose very freedom gives this religious nut job the right to make a bad name for God.

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destroy/eliminate a religious belief???

it would be easier to eliminate a billion men, women and children with one dull butter knife.
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