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Religious Fundamentalism Must Be Destroyed.

 
Naturyl  (OP)

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He knows, he's only on GLP to stir shit. View his posts/replies.
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Yes, please do view my posts/replies. I am not at GLP to "stir shit," I am here to discuss issues. Unfortunately, some people become very threatened when their beliefs are questioned, especially when they have no rational response to offer. This is usually when they result to feeble insults and belittling comments.
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YEAH! LETS ALL GO ON DISABILITY... THAT'S THE TICKET! devil6
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What's the matter, are you jealous?

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He knows, he's only on GLP to stir shit. View his posts/replies.


Yes, please do view my posts/replies. I am not at GLP to "stir shit," I am here to discuss issues. Unfortunately, some people become very threatened when their beliefs are questioned, especially when they have no rational response to offer. This is usually when they result to feeble insults and belittling comments.
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Are you a racist?

you know a person who is afraid of anyone different than they are, so they seek to separate into groups instead of letting love unite them?
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He knows, he's only on GLP to stir shit. View his posts/replies.


Yes, please do view my posts/replies. I am not at GLP to "stir shit," I am here to discuss issues. Unfortunately, some people become very threatened when their beliefs are questioned, especially when they have no rational response to offer. This is usually when they result to feeble insults and belittling comments.


Are you a racist?

you know a person who is afraid of anyone different than they are, so they seek to separate into groups instead of letting love unite them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75563


No, I am not a racist. Religion has nothing to do with race.

If you want to "let love unite," shouldn't you tell it to the Christian and Muslim fundies of the world rather than me? After all, they are the ones wo have had crusdes and jihads for centuries, and they are working on a new one as we speak.
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when they have no rational response to offer.
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Well, of course, I 'm asking for it...but does that precude the non-rational from being viable to you?
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]


ASAP.
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He knows, he's only on GLP to stir shit. View his posts/replies.


Yes, please do view my posts/replies. I am not at GLP to "stir shit," I am here to discuss issues. Unfortunately, some people become very threatened when their beliefs are questioned, especially when they have no rational response to offer. This is usually when they result to feeble insults and belittling comments.


Are you a racist?

you know a person who is afraid of anyone different than they are, so they seek to separate into groups instead of letting love unite them?


No, I am not a racist. Religion has nothing to do with race.

If you want to "let love unite," shouldn't you tell it to the Christian and Muslim fundies of the world rather than me? After all, they are the ones wo have had crusdes and jihads for centuries, and they are working on a new one as we speak.
 Quoting: Naturyl


Racism is not color of skin or ethnic variety, it is fear. people have merely chosen to identify racism with ethnic groups, but true racism is about fear of anyone different and sekingto separate them..

Instead of telling me how I should live my life, why don't you get off your own ass and do something about it.
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Chistians have a history of invading other nations to steal and commit murder. The middle east has been in constant turmoil and in every case you will find the christian invader merrily committing murder for profit. The first thing the yanks did when they entered Iraq was steal everything that wasn't nailed down. When the spanish christians enetered south america the first thing they did after murdering everyone they met was steal everything that wasn't nailed down, the christians who entered the ME on "crusade" killed everyone they met and then stole everything that wasn't nailed down. How mant christian nations have the arabs invaded and stole from. Not content to merely steal goods the christians then stole an entire country, evicted it's inhabitants and filled it full of turkish/jews.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 119555



I think you are getting two different terms mixed up:

Colonists
Christians.

They are NOT the same thing.

The European royalty that today we call the Illuminati, were the colonists back in the days you are speak of, not Christians.

And I believe that the Arab nations have 'invaded' many Christian countries, like Spain and France, during those Crusades you revile so hardily. To conquer for Islam.

Are we really debating 1000 years ago?

Hmmm, how about today?

Thailand, India, Kashmir, Chechnya, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Lebanon, Indonesia, Pakistan, Egypt, Yemen, Bali, Phillipines, Spain, England, all these places have a radical Islamic rebellion going on.

And there has always been fighting in the Middle East, without any Westerners help.
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when they have no rational response to offer.

Well, of course, I 'm asking for it...but does that precude the non-rational from being viable to you?
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No. It simply precludes me from assigning any validity to irrelevant replies like "let's all go on disability."
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He knows, he's only on GLP to stir shit. View his posts/replies.


Yes, please do view my posts/replies. I am not at GLP to "stir shit," I am here to discuss issues. Unfortunately, some people become very threatened when their beliefs are questioned, especially when they have no rational response to offer. This is usually when they result to feeble insults and belittling comments.


Are you a racist?

you know a person who is afraid of anyone different than they are, so they seek to separate into groups instead of letting love unite them?


No, I am not a racist. Religion has nothing to do with race.

If you want to "let love unite," shouldn't you tell it to the Christian and Muslim fundies of the world rather than me? After all, they are the ones wo have had crusdes and jihads for centuries, and they are working on a new one as we speak.
 Quoting: Naturyl


I think you are confused here. Christianity has NO quest for world domination.

This war will be about have and have nots.

The Post-Christians - the Secularists do not have enough oil. That would be the Europeans, and please do NOT call them Christians, that would be absurd.

The Islamic Jihadis do not have enough respect and power. They demand world submission to their religion. Their leaders are corrupt and feed them a diet of hate so they can blame something else for their poverty.

The Christian 'fundies' as you call them, have nothing to do with it.
They are the ones left manning the soup kitchens, and tending the wounded just like they always do.
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Racism is not color of skin or ethnic variety, it is fear. people have merely chosen to identify racism with ethnic groups, but true racism is about fear of anyone different and sekingto separate them..

Instead of telling me how I should live my life, why don't you get off your own ass and do something about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75563


Um, no. Racism is about *race." That's why they call it "racism."

And it's pretty funny how you complain about me telling you how to live your life, and then immediately proceed to tell me how to live mine.

potkettle
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without the Bible we'd still be living in barbarianism
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Naturyl  (OP)

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without the Bible we'd still be living in barbarianism




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Yeah. And with it, we are living in even more barbarism.

Without the Bible (and the 1000 year Dark Age it helped cause), we might all be living in the Star Trek world.

Yeah, I'm actually serious.
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without the Bible we'd still be living in barbarianism




blink


Yeah. And with it, we are living in even more barbarism.

Without the Bible (and the 1000 year Dark Age it helped cause), we might all be living in the Star Trek world.

Yeah, I'm actually serious.
 Quoting: Naturyl



I spent a good deal of time showing you the roots of the different movements in the last 200-300 years.

They were based upon concepts of the New Testament.

What, you didn't like hearing about that? Or you choose to ignore it, so that you can keep your fantasy that the Bible is 'barbaric'?

I am talking, of course, of the elimination of slavery, voting for women, civil right movement of the '60s, to name a few.

These were all rooting in devout people of the Church.
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without the Bible we'd still be living in barbarianism




blink


Yeah. And with it, we are living in even more barbarism.

Without the Bible (and the 1000 year Dark Age it helped cause), we might all be living in the Star Trek world.

Yeah, I'm actually serious.
 Quoting: Naturyl


The Dark Ages had more to do with health issues than the Bible.

I thought you were somewhat educated? How did you miss the plague?
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they may have come about all by themselves too..
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Racism is not color of skin or ethnic variety, it is fear. people have merely chosen to identify racism with ethnic groups, but true racism is about fear of anyone different and sekingto separate them..

Instead of telling me how I should live my life, why don't you get off your own ass and do something about it.


Um, no. Racism is about *race." That's why they call it "racism."

And it's pretty funny how you complain about me telling you how to live your life, and then immediately proceed to tell me how to live mine.

potkettle
 Quoting: Naturyl


Your very good at not assuming any guilt for what you start.

You said to me...


"""If you want to "let love unite," shouldn't you tell it to the Christian and Muslim fundies of the world rather than me? After all, they are the ones wo have had crusdes and jihads for centuries, and they are working on a new one as we speak."""

So I replied that maybe you should get off your ass and do it, instead of trying to get everyone else to play into your hatred towards others. And what do you do? You ignore that you instigated that it was up to someone else to fix the problem and accuse me of being the one who tells others how to live and what toi do with their life.

Its your problem with religion, not mine.
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blink


Yeah. And with it, we are living in even more barbarism.

Without the Bible (and the 1000 year Dark Age it helped cause), we might all be living in the Star Trek world.

Yeah, I'm actually serious.



I spent a good deal of time showing you the roots of the different movements in the last 200-300 years.

They were based upon concepts of the New Testament.

What, you didn't like hearing about that? Or you choose to ignore it, so that you can keep your fantasy that the Bible is 'barbaric'?

I am talking, of course, of the elimination of slavery, voting for women, civil right movement of the '60s, to name a few.

These were all rooting in devout people of the Church.
 Quoting: Kay 72054


It was pointed out to you that all of these problems you claimed Christianity fixed were caused by Christianity in the first place.

In addition, any progress that can be credited to Christianity came from the liberal elements. Liberal Christians fixed the problems the fundies created. If the fundies had their way, we'd have most of the problems back.
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Paul said "servants, obey your masters." The word for "servants" is *douloi*, which is roughly equivalent to our "slave," meaning someone serving *involuntarily.* Christ also spoke of involuntary servitude without disapproval. At the very least, the New Testament does not condemn slavery.
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Kudos to Naturyl and Kay for their great posts.

You'll notice the Fundy types always scream the loudest when anyone questions their beliefs, then turn around and scream at anyone who doesn't believe what they believe.

GLP Fundy Christians can be easily identified by anyone who cries "Troll!" at any poster who dares to post they think Fundies are intellectually stunted. They quickly forget about the old "Do unto others" thing Jesus preached, and self-righteously tell other posters they are evil and Satan's minion for not praising them for their preachiness.
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Dude, what hatred toward others do you think Naturyl is promoting? From what I read it isn't Fundies he wants destroyed, it's Fundamentalism.

It's ignorance like this, made by people like you, who start wars.
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without the Bible we'd still be living in barbarianism




blink


Yeah. And with it, we are living in even more barbarism.

Without the Bible (and the 1000 year Dark Age it helped cause), we might all be living in the Star Trek world.

Yeah, I'm actually serious.



I spent a good deal of time showing you the roots of the different movements in the last 200-300 years.

They were based upon concepts of the New Testament.

What, you didn't like hearing about that? Or you choose to ignore it, so that you can keep your fantasy that the Bible is 'barbaric'?

I am talking, of course, of the elimination of slavery, voting for women, civil right movement of the '60s, to name a few.

These were all rooting in devout people of the Church.


It was pointed out to you that all of these problems you claimed Christianity fixed were caused by Christianity in the first place.

In addition, any progress that can be credited to Christianity came from the liberal elements. Liberal Christians fixed the problems the fundies created. If the fundies had their way, we'd have most of the problems back.
 Quoting: Naturyl


You must really think we are pea-brained if you talk like that.

Christianity invented slavery? Wow. Not only are you ignorant of the Dark Ages but also of slavery.

Early Christians were slaves, remember? Judiasm had rules regarding slavers, so how did Christianity invent it?

Slavery has existed since the beginning of man. Christianity is only 2000 years old.

That is utterly ridiculous. Martin Luther King was a BAPTIST. And Baptists are Fundamentalists.

Wow, I thought debating with you might be rewarding, but you are seriously illiterate in your history.

If you can't do better than that, I'm history.
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without the Bible we'd still be living in barbarianism




blink


Yeah. And with it, we are living in even more barbarism.

Without the Bible (and the 1000 year Dark Age it helped cause), we might all be living in the Star Trek world.

Yeah, I'm actually serious.


The Dark Ages had more to do with health issues than the Bible.

I thought you were somewhat educated? How did you miss the plague?
 Quoting: Kay 72054


The Dark Ages were well underway long before the plague was ever thought of. Catholic supression of knowledge and literacy kept the peasants poor, ignorant, and dependent. It was all done very much on purpose, to keep the Church in control.

Check your history before you make remarks about my education, please.
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without the Bible we'd still be living in barbarianism




blink


Yeah. And with it, we are living in even more barbarism.

Without the Bible (and the 1000 year Dark Age it helped cause), we might all be living in the Star Trek world.

Yeah, I'm actually serious.



I spent a good deal of time showing you the roots of the different movements in the last 200-300 years.

They were based upon concepts of the New Testament.

What, you didn't like hearing about that? Or you choose to ignore it, so that you can keep your fantasy that the Bible is 'barbaric'?

I am talking, of course, of the elimination of slavery, voting for women, civil right movement of the '60s, to name a few.

These were all rooting in devout people of the Church.


It was pointed out to you that all of these problems you claimed Christianity fixed were caused by Christianity in the first place.

In addition, any progress that can be credited to Christianity came from the liberal elements. Liberal Christians fixed the problems the fundies created. If the fundies had their way, we'd have most of the problems back.


You must really think we are pea-brained if you talk like that.

Christianity invented slavery? Wow. Not only are you ignorant of the Dark Ages but also of slavery.

Early Christians were slaves, remember? Judiasm had rules regarding slavers, so how did Christianity invent it?

Slavery has existed since the beginning of man. Christianity is only 2000 years old.

That is utterly ridiculous. Martin Luther King was a BAPTIST. And Baptists are Fundamentalists.

Wow, I thought debating with you might be rewarding, but you are seriously illiterate in your history.

If you can't do better than that, I'm history.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72054


Nice rant, but you're evading responsibility. Christianity condoned slavery until relatively recently, when liberal Christians (NOT fundies) finally pushed for change.

Religious and Bible-based arguments were frequently used to justify slavery in the time leading up to the Civil War. You did know that, right?
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The church had to control all those DARN pagans..
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liberal Christians = good
fundy Christians = idiots, who want everyone to live Old Testament style
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I think you are getting two different terms mixed up:

Colonists
Christians.

They are NOT the same thing.
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He knows, he's only on GLP to stir shit. View his posts/replies.


Yes, please do view my posts/replies. I am not at GLP to "stir shit," I am here to discuss issues. Unfortunately, some people become very threatened when their beliefs are questioned, especially when they have no rational response to offer. This is usually when they result to feeble insults and belittling comments.
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Naturyl has yet to place his/her cards on the table, . . . we are waiting . . .

GLP must have put a serious glitch in the matrix so someone sent in Naturyl to patch it up . . . may be too late for that Naturyl, sfan the cat is already out of the bag


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See? Religious types think everyone has a Satanic agenda if they don't praise their preachiness. What a buncha self-righteous twattery.
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See? Religious types think everyone has a Satanic agenda if they don't praise their preachiness. What a buncha self-righteous twattery.
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why do you feel it necessary to pigeon hole someone as religious so that you can then make them an easy target . . . incapable of meeting them where they truly stand perhaps . . .???





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