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Free Will is a Delusion
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Again, events either have a cause or they do not. If they do not, they cannot be the result of free will, because free will requires that choice be the causal agent.
And, of course, the event we call "choice" itself either has a cause or it does not. Here we have a vicious regress which makes the traditional libertarian version of free will essentially meaningless.
Then, say, if one were to rob a bank- what caused such an event? His desire for money? Why would one desire money, if he isn't poor? Greed? Why be greedy? Greed stems from the belief that there isn't enough "stuff" to share with everyone. Why do people believe this? Because they believe our resources are limited. Why do they believe our resources are limited? Because they believe the World itself, and all of that within it, is finite. Now, tell me, why would they believe that? Because greedy people hoard of all the "stuff" for themselves.
Now why are these people greedy?
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It's a never ending cycle. The only other option is choice. The cause and effect principle does not apply to all things. They do not apply to intangible concepts and thoughts. They do not apply to that which cannot be conceived.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 118505You are introducing the circular logic. It is not part of my argument. The chain of causation which influences all non-random events stretches backward in time to the big bang. It does not loop back on itself, it simply proceeds from cause to event in the direction of time's arrow. Each event then becomes a cause which influences future events. Think dominoes.
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