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Message Subject Free Will is a Delusion
Poster Handle gooderboy
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Naturyl yes... but if some events are "caused" by human thought, then that being the cause as opposed to the reaction denotes free-will.

But human thought is caused. You can decide to eat some Doritos, but that decision is caused by your hunger, which is caused by your need to survive, which is caused by evolution, which is caused by the laws of physics, which are caused by the big bang, which is caused by Nature. It all comes back to that.



Naturyl I could not have described free will any better. I completely disagree with your assesment. The hunger is merely a catalyst. There is no "force" that made you eat doritos nor is there any force that made me choose to eat them now as opposed to 30 seconds from now or wether I even ate doritos or anything at all.

When you push a box it can not "choose" wether or not it will move. You apply enough force and it will move in the direction of the applied force. Not so with human thought. All be it, it may be greatly influenced by outside persuasion, none the less there is nothing that "forces" a thought.

I could go outside and pick up a rock or do an infinite number of other things that have no reason or influence other than I can if I want to. That is called free will.
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... and thank you too. So dominoes are really and truly just dominoes... and they really don't do anything a'tall... and that is until some one comes along and chooses, and of their very own free will, for to do what every they may choose to do with them dominoes. Gee... who'd a'ever thought...
 
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