ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! | |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 61168484 ![]() 10/01/2014 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! Obama Briefed The CDC and Texas doctors are discussing the use of possible experimental treatments, Frieden said, though no decision has been made. President Barack Obama was briefed about the patient by Frieden, the White House said in a statement. They discussed the patient’s treatment and what was being done to trace the people the man might have contacted. [link to www.bloomberg.com] |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 61168484 ![]() 10/01/2014 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! BREAKING: There may already be another #Ebola case in Dallas. DCHHS is investigating family member of the infected patient. [link to twitter.com] |
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Southern Lighthouse User ID: 31034498 ![]() 10/01/2014 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! BREAKING: There may already be another #Ebola case in Dallas. Quoting: DoorBert DCHHS is investigating family member of the infected patient. [link to twitter.com] Oh shit, here we go. ![]() Love is the highest form of spiritual warfare. |
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TeamReaper User ID: 22030141 ![]() 10/01/2014 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! He came into contact with 12-18 people after being contagious (Sept 24th or later In every operation, whether planning it or executing it, you can never count on luck; but you have to accept it, and recognize it when it’s there. -Major ******, U-2 Pilot/Instructor/Flight Commander |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58351648 ![]() 10/01/2014 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! It is all about who he had contact with. What about how he got it? Due to the timing, it could have been contracted anywhere. Could have been caught in the US, on the plane or in Africa. If he caught it on the plane, well, that is the worst case scenario ever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58351648 ![]() 10/01/2014 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! It is all about who he had contact with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58351648 What about how he got it? Due to the timing, it could have been contracted anywhere. Could have been caught in the US, on the plane or in Africa. If he caught it on the plane, well, that is the worst case scenario ever. This is where it will explode into an epidemic. We are not considering others around him when he caught it. What about people who were exposed near him? Being it could have been on the plane he caught it, that is very possible and no one official is considering it, yet it is a REAL possibility. The officials are in damage control and trying to prevent panic. Which, the panic itself could cause more harm then good by breaking the very system that can control it. |
Dr. Astro![]() Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 ![]() 10/01/2014 10:55 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! Sense 5’-GmUACGAAGCUmGUAUAmUAAAUU-3’, antisense 5’-UUUAmUAUACAGCUUCGmUACAA-3’ Sense 5’-UCCmUCGACACGAAmUGCAAAGU-3’, antisense 5’-UUmUGCAUUCGUGUCmGAGmGAUC-3’ Sense 5’-GCAACmUCAUUGmGrArCrAmUCAUUC-3’, antisense 5’-AUGAUmGUCCAAUGAmGUmUGCUA-3’ Probably already too late for the DFW patient anyway, but if I was potential patient #2 I'd be begging to start taking the above SNALP-formulated anti-ZEBOV siRNAs immediately. Unlike ZMAPP it can be manufactured relatively quickly, without needing to wait months for tobacco plants to grow. Unfortunately since the FDA stopped the phase I clinical trial, I seriously doubt they will administer it to any patients. I would personally be willing to take the risk if it were my skin on the line though. ![]() |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 60601681 ![]() 10/01/2014 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! First Ebola patient diagnosed in US won’t be treated with ZMapp Quoting: DoorBert Stocks of experimental drug used to treat several international health workers – at least two of them Americans – have run out The Ebola patient in Dallas will not be given ZMapp, the experimental drug used to treat several international aid workers and medical staff, including at least two Americans, because stocks have run out. ZMapp is one of the drugs that is being rushed into trials in the epidemic, along with other drugs that will need more safety data in animals and humans before they are administered to patients. There have been very few doses available and stocks have now all been used up, but the San Diego-based company behind ZMapp is now pressing ahead with the manufacture of more supplies. It is not an easy drug to make, however. It includes three man-made antibodies to the virus which are grown in tobacco leaves and takes months to produce. [link to www.theguardian.com] Wait wait wait! TOBACCO???? Could THIS be what's been behind the big gubb'mint push for smoking cessation all these years? So that we wouldn't be immune to their manufactured virus? I wonder if the big tobacco companies are/will be financially profiting from the manufacture of this antidote? "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 60601681 ![]() 10/01/2014 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! Yes, where IS Brief, anyway? You'd think that he would have some pithy comments concerning the situation.....! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 60601681 ![]() 10/01/2014 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! He came into contact with 12-18 people after being contagious (Sept 24th or later Quoting: TeamReaper Well, until he remembers that he stopped at Safeway for aspirin on the way home from the hospital the first time. Can you imagine what a nightmare THAT could be? To locate all those shoppers and their families, and then locating everyone whom THEY had come in contact with...... I'm really surprised that the Sci-Fi Channel hasn't re-broadcast Steven King's "The Stand" on their weekend line-up yet. The viewership numbers would probably rival the "Sharknado" movies! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Dr. Astro![]() Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 ![]() 10/01/2014 11:11 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! First Ebola patient diagnosed in US won’t be treated with ZMapp Quoting: DoorBert Stocks of experimental drug used to treat several international health workers – at least two of them Americans – have run out The Ebola patient in Dallas will not be given ZMapp, the experimental drug used to treat several international aid workers and medical staff, including at least two Americans, because stocks have run out. ZMapp is one of the drugs that is being rushed into trials in the epidemic, along with other drugs that will need more safety data in animals and humans before they are administered to patients. There have been very few doses available and stocks have now all been used up, but the San Diego-based company behind ZMapp is now pressing ahead with the manufacture of more supplies. It is not an easy drug to make, however. It includes three man-made antibodies to the virus which are grown in tobacco leaves and takes months to produce. [link to www.theguardian.com] Wait wait wait! TOBACCO???? Could THIS be what's been behind the big gubb'mint push for smoking cessation all these years? So that we wouldn't be immune to their manufactured virus? I wonder if the big tobacco companies are/will be financially profiting from the manufacture of this antidote? No. It's not about smoking regular tobacco. It's about genetically engineering related plants to produce desired proteins, even antibodies. They use Nicotiana benthamiana for ZMAPP, not regular tobacco plants (Nicotiana tabacum). Nicotiana benthamiana is particularly susceptible to disease, which makes it less than ideal for big tobacco companies, but extremely ideal for scientists who can deliberately infect it with bacteria that are modified to carry genes of interest and thereby use the plant as a biological factory. [link to www.rtnz.com] I studied under Dr. Henry Daniell during my undergrad years, he wrote the letter of recommendation that got me into my PhD program. He was a pioneer in this field. He pioneered the process of engineering the chloroplasts to produce the desired proteins, so that the transgenes could not spread through the pollen (among other reasons). Last Edited by Astromut on 10/01/2014 11:13 AM ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63450953 ![]() 10/01/2014 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! ZMAPP ran out a month ago and there will be NONE available till January 2015 and when that time comes around there will be only available a few hundred doses at MAX because this serum will never ever be able to be mass produced due to its nature. so all of you in the USA keep this is in mind, that your government will not be able to save you! what you need to do is not get ebola in the first place and right now that means wear gloves when going out in public and not going in near people within 3 feet of space. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12781064 ![]() 10/01/2014 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! Vaccine tested. How convenient that they has something about ready. [link to www.npr.org] Ebola will go nuts and terrify everyone. Then they will finish or suspend the tests to rush out the vaccine. Frightened, bleating sheep will lineup for the vaccine shearing. |
Zcat User ID: 27761196 ![]() 10/01/2014 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! wtf wtf wtf! This sucks ass! Shoulda said no enter without bloodtest. I hope any secondary infected survivors sue the ever-loving shit outta the airlines! That is stream of commerce and gross negligence. Zcat |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 60601681 ![]() 10/01/2014 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! Wait wait wait! TOBACCO???? Could THIS be what's been behind the big gubb'mint push for smoking cessation all these years? So that we wouldn't be immune to their manufactured virus? Quoting: Eggcellent I wonder if the big tobacco companies are/will be financially profiting from the manufacture of this antidote? No. It's not about smoking regular tobacco. It's about genetically engineering related plants to produce desired proteins, even antibodies. They use Nicotiana benthamiana for ZMAPP, not regular tobacco plants (Nicotiana tabacum). Nicotiana benthamiana is particularly susceptible to disease, which makes it less than ideal for big tobacco companies, but extremely ideal for scientists who can deliberately infect it with bacteria that are modified to carry genes of interest and thereby use the plant as a biological factory. [link to www.rtnz.com] I studied under Dr. Henry Daniell during my undergrad years, he wrote the letter of recommendation that got me into my PhD program. He was a pioneer in this field. He pioneered the process of engineering the chloroplasts to produce the desired proteins, so that the transgenes could not spread through the pollen (among other reasons). Wow! Thank you Dr. Astro for taking the time to explain that, and in a perfectly understandable way. ![]() "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
TeamReaper User ID: 22030141 ![]() 10/01/2014 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ZMAPP Supply Runs Out. Dallas Patient not to be Treated with Drug. Obola Briefed. Reports of a 2nd Case being Investigated! Info on 2nd case [link to www.usatoday.com] In every operation, whether planning it or executing it, you can never count on luck; but you have to accept it, and recognize it when it’s there. -Major ******, U-2 Pilot/Instructor/Flight Commander |