If your vaccination protects you then why worry about the ones that are NOT vaccinated?

Because There's still people out There who think you Shouldn't suffer pain and would give their lives and time to help you.

Just saying.

Take care

My sentiments indeed....

The masses have not figured out that vaccinations are biological warfare against us....

They have yet to figure out that vaccinations are used to spread disease, not the prevent them...

They haven't even figured out that Christ saves, not man...he profits.

Vaccinations are the antithesis of a strong immune system, as they are designed to breach them. It is counter to logic to infiltrate a system that seeks to prevent infiltration. So why is mercury, aluminum, dead fetal tissue, lead, formaldehyde, etc. all of a sudden safe in a syringe?

See the CDC's (Center for Disease Control) ingredient's list on their website. Keep in mind they only listed a few of the ingredients not all of them. Your further research for the truth is a must.

Question everything folks!!!!!!

Especially those guys with letters behind their names who were indoctrinated to maximize the profits of their handlers.

You are correct. I have asked that very question for years. It is not logical. There IS another reason.

Exactly.

If person A is vaccinated, why would he/she need to be concerned at all about person B NOT being vaccinated?

You're right opie, 'herd immunity' makes NO sense

And I have a difficult time with this part of vaccination (NON) logic...

Typical example:

Tetanus..
Vaccine theory says that they jab you with some dead or weakened bug, and your body develops a future resistance to said bug. The vaccine is not an "anti-tetanus" drug which kills tetanus, like penicillin kills bacteria.

If I get a cut on my hand that requires stitches, I go to the Dr. and get sewed up. They then give me a Tetanus vaccine shot, to prevent me from coming down with tetanus...
HUH?
But if I have tetanus in my cut, why give me more tetanus now? If my body is already in full gear fighting the tetanus that I might have, why add to the problem now?
Good grief.


Last Edited by Trained Noticer on 10/01/2014 11:41 AM

Glad there are people who think like me.

Good to see there are logical thinkers out there.

Well said....

I agree with you to a point.

However, with the Tetanus vaccine...it is given as you know to build up an immunity to the C.tetani bacterium.
It is is said that of those who develop symptoms 50% will die. There is no antibiotic that will effectively cure you.
While there are some that kill it, doing so will still produce the toxin. (Which is was causes tetanus) So the idea is to build up your immunity to prevent the growth of the organism in the first place.

The issue, I have with the vaccine is all the added preservatives (Thimerosol, Formalin, etc.) and agents.
I also have an issue with physicians telling you that when you cut yourself you need a tetanus vaccine. If the wound is open such as from a laceration. The C. tetani bacterium will not develop as it needs a low oxygen environment (anaerobic).

Herd mentality! Liberals all have hive mind group think mentality.

The reasoning goes something like this:

" If I get the chemical lobotomy, then everyone else has to too!"


Logic and scientific facts don't matter to you typical libturd. You cant reason with authoritarians.

It just shows many people are truly duped. They cannot think. If the vaccine protects you, then you should have NOTHING to worry about if someone else doesn't take it.

But because they do worry, that tells me they really don't think they are protected! Fail.

Another part is the evil within people "If I take it, so will you...", therefore, they "demand" you take it.

I did not even start down the "additives" road. I agree wholeheartedly about that. I still think injecting you with disease is flawed logic...

You dramatically misunderstand what is going on with tetanus vaccine.

You are not being vaccinated against the bacterium Clostridium tetani.
You are being vaccinated against the extremely toxic poison it produces because mere nanograms (0.0000000025 gram/kg body weight) of this poison are lethal.
The tetanus vaccine is a toxoid - an inactivated toxin, in this case tetanospasmin toxoid.
The vaccine effectiveness fades and requires booster every 10 years.
"Natural infection" confers no immunity.

The reason you get a tetanus toxoid shot is to be sure your immune system is prepared to fight the tatanospasmin toxoid.
It will trigger a response from your immune system producing copius antibodies against the tetanospasmin toxin.
You are basically in a race with the Clostridium tetani bacterium. It takes the spored bacterium about 8 days incubation (3 - 21 days) before it starts producing toxin.
With vaccination your immune system has been given a 400 meter lead in the race.
You win, naturally.

So - No, they are not giving you "more tetanus now", and you are not being vaccinated against Clostridium tetani.

"Good grief."

All you want to know and more:
[link to www.cdc.gov]


R.

No, sir, you were born with a perfect immune system that only becomes questionable when nutrition and lifestyle compromises said immune system.

If we were in need of hypodermic needles we would've been born with said hypodermic needles.

Please go to the CDC's website and read the list of ingredients (they will make known), then make an educated decision as to whether vaccinations are worth your health.

Disease is earned, not acquired....

Louis Pasteur admitted on his death bed that his germ theory was all wrong, as he ultimately stated, "The microbe is nothing, the terrain (your body) is everything.

Even Hippocrates stated, "Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine be thy food".

The book of Genesis 1:29 (your owner's manual) Eat only the seed bearing fruit and herb, it is to be our meat.

An alkalized body is impervious to disease. It is a proven fact that vaccinations destroy the immune system. DO THE RESEARCH...

Man has your ability to profit him in mind, not your salvation...

Your polluted digestive tract is the basis of all disease, not some external microscopic animals attempting to enter your body...

"The bigger the Lie, the more they'll believe". -Adolph Hitler

I am not defending nor attacking "forced vaccination" as it doesn't exist in the USA. There is coerced vaccination, but no jack-booted storm trooper is going to hold you down and vaccinate you... yet.

The reason the unvaccinated are a concern are manifold:

- Vaccines are not 100% effective. A certain %age of vaccinated people will not seroconvert and are just as vulnerable as if they haven't been vaccinated. Testing for titers is idiotic and expensive if everyone else vaccinates as they should due to herd immunity (i.e.- quarantine by the immune population). Only moronic anti-vaccinationists reject the simple concept of herd immunity, don't you agree?

- Babies are not vaccinated for many diseases until their 1st b'day. They are vulnerable and depend upon their fellow man for their protection.

- Organ transplant recipients with artificially suppressed immune systems cannot be vaccinated and depend upon their fellow man for their safety.

- Any immune suppressed person (HIV, old age, cancer patients, those on steroids, etc.) depends upon their fellow man for their protection.


It is all about being a good citizen and good neighbor and being responsible.

Let the foaming at the mouth begin...


R.

Good thread OP, the ones taking the vaccines are doing the spreading.

You are a liar and brainwashed taught patsy, you cannot put your kids in a school without their "shots"...forced to.

"a good citizen does what it's told" Is what you're saying, shill.

So you don't understand the concept of a quarantine?

How quaint. I'd have thought it was intuitively obvious.

For diseases that are transmitted person-to-person herd immunity is exactly that - Quarantine of the non-immune by surrounding them with the immune.
The diseased person will have a very much reduced chance of contacting a non-immune person with this quarantine.

vis. -
[link to www.health.harvard.edu]

It isn't a very difficult concept to grasp, but apparently to some...


R.

That is your kids, not you. They have a special relationship with the state. See below.

Answer - Home school.

You do now "own" your children and the state reserves the right to terminate your authority if you decide to put your child at risk or injure them. See - Christian Scientists and blood transfusions, etc.


R.

They don't want you to see the unvaccinated staying healthy while you are making pharma Money.

Right, meaning that if you do not put them in school, your kids can be taken...forced to.

Sound like a free country to you? Of course it does, you're brainwashing is in 100% agreement with the agenda.

While not legally guilty, was this neglect on the parent's part?

[link to www.dailytelegraph.com.au]

Hitler never said that.

Why is it that every lunatic that suscribes to a nonsensical fringe theory slanders the scientist and what they said on their death bed?

I suppose if we were in need of eyeglasses, canes, back braces, insulin pumps, shoes, clothes, asthma inhalers, epinephrine etc. than we would have been born with it all.

Your knowledge of the human systems is pitiful at best and your reference to the bible as a guide for modern day health IS pitiful. You are referencing a bronze age book that was cobbled together by power hungry dictators as a guide for 21st century health problems. You have failed logically, morally, and intellectually. You are dangerous to your fellow man by spreading idiotic conspiracy theories relating to the necassary vaccination of the population in response to certain diseases. The fact that you suscribe to this nonsense makes it obvious that you know very little about the human immune system or how viruses work. You need to educate yourself regarding biology, then learn a bit of logic, and I bet you will become intrigued with actual facts instead of becoming intrigued with conspiratorial nonsense that is designed for and appeals to small minded, illogical, and uneducated individuals.

One more thing, referencing Hippocrates as a guide for modern day health should cause any educated person to immediately raise their hand to smack themselves in the face. Diet is an extremely important thing which is what we should take from that quote. However, we should not be so idiotic to think that the way we eat will protect us from viruses and bacteria, which he had no clue about. Your anti vaccination nonsense is immoral and dangerous and you should be ashamed of yourself. You have disregarded facts and evidence for intrigue and causation in response to minor corellation(if you are the typical anti vaxxer). You ignore the enormous amount of data as well as the lives that have been saved as a result of vaccines because it is more intriguing to your small mind to think that a secret cabal is behind it all in order to quell the population. And any time you are met with facts you spew the line 'your just a shill or a sheep". Well your simply predictable and a true piece of shit. My best friend died of the flu because his parents were like you and I utterly despise people like you and your denial of the truth. Learn a little logic and a little reason to know how to apply that logic. Otherwise, stop spreading falsehoods and endangering lives!

You really don't know how vaccinations work, do you?

Maybe you should take a class in biology and ask what herd immunity is. If enough people do not get vaccinated herd immunity will not protect people like you or people who don't pay attention and we could easily be looking at an epidemic. Biology and virology definately are not your strong suit.

First of all no one is being forced to get vaccinations.

Secondly, get over your conspiratorial nonsense and learn a little something about how viruses work in populations. Then look up herd immunity.

You people and your irrational fear of inactivated or even attenuated vaccines is truly pitiful and remarkably dangerous and you don't even know it. You have fallen victim to fear mongers who have no clue, just as you, about the science and neccesity of vaccines.

I don't see the Amish getting vaccinated, they never come down with any of these scary disease you so-called virus experts purport that they should be getting.

They don't suffer from autism and all those other brain damaging affects that seems to follow vaccinations either.

So fuck you and your expert herd immunity bs, AND your vaccines. I won't be getting any and neither will my kids.

"You people"?

:racist5:

Ding ding ding

Herd immunity....
Either your vaccine protects you from the disease we might spread or it is a fail.