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Can someone educate me on the entire Hong Kong situation? | |
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| Anticain User ID: 40959433 United States10/03/2014 03:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is really going on there? What are they protesting and why? What is the government doing and what is their stance?and what outcome benefits both parties or the majority? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62794209 Thank you. UK and China have a long feud over Taiwan. UK is stirring the pot, creating chaos, and fomenting a political coup of the Chinese lapdog Taiwan government. Wikipedia "Also in the Kabbalah, Samael was said to be the Serpent who tempted Eve into sin. He even seduced and impregnated her with Cain." Genesis 3: 14-15 14The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this...I will put enmity between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed" Genesis 4:11-12 So the Lord said to Cain..."now you are cursed from the earth...When you till the ground, it shall no longer yield its strength to you. A fugitive and a vagabond you shall be on the earth.” I Chronicles 2:55 And the families of the scribes...These are the Kenites ["sons of Cain"] who came from Hammath, the father of the house of Rekab. Jeremiah 35 Then I set bowls full of wine and some cups before the Rekabites ["sons of Rekab"] and said to them, “Drink some wine.” But they replied, “We do not drink wine, because our forefather Jehonadab son of Rekab gave us this command: ‘Neither you nor your descendants must ever drink wine. Also you must never build houses, sow seed or plant vineyards; you must never have any of these things, but must always live in tents. Then you will live a long time in the land where you are nomads.’ We have obeyed everything our forefather Jehonadab son of Rekab commanded us...We have lived in tents and have fully obeyed everything our forefather Jehonadab commanded us. But when Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon invaded this land, we said, ‘Come, we must go to Jerusalem to escape the Babylonianb and Aramean armies.’ So we have remained in Jerusalem.” Matthew 23 “Woe to you, scribes [Kenites/Rekabites] and Pharisees, hypocrites!...Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah..." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62837428 United States10/03/2014 03:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is really going on there? What are they protesting and why? What is the government doing and what is their stance?and what outcome benefits both parties or the majority? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62794209 Thank you. UK and China have a long feud over Taiwan. UK is stirring the pot, creating chaos, and fomenting a political coup of the Chinese lapdog Taiwan government. Lol thank you! |
| Anticain User ID: 40959433 United States10/03/2014 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is really going on there? What are they protesting and why? What is the government doing and what is their stance?and what outcome benefits both parties or the majority? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62794209 Thank you. UK and China have a long feud over Taiwan. UK is stirring the pot, creating chaos, and fomenting a political coup of the Chinese lapdog Taiwan government. Lol thank you! What's so funny? Wikipedia "Also in the Kabbalah, Samael was said to be the Serpent who tempted Eve into sin. He even seduced and impregnated her with Cain." Genesis 3: 14-15 14The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this...I will put enmity between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed" Genesis 4:11-12 So the Lord said to Cain..."now you are cursed from the earth...When you till the ground, it shall no longer yield its strength to you. A fugitive and a vagabond you shall be on the earth.” I Chronicles 2:55 And the families of the scribes...These are the Kenites ["sons of Cain"] who came from Hammath, the father of the house of Rekab. Jeremiah 35 Then I set bowls full of wine and some cups before the Rekabites ["sons of Rekab"] and said to them, “Drink some wine.” But they replied, “We do not drink wine, because our forefather Jehonadab son of Rekab gave us this command: ‘Neither you nor your descendants must ever drink wine. Also you must never build houses, sow seed or plant vineyards; you must never have any of these things, but must always live in tents. Then you will live a long time in the land where you are nomads.’ We have obeyed everything our forefather Jehonadab son of Rekab commanded us...We have lived in tents and have fully obeyed everything our forefather Jehonadab commanded us. But when Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon invaded this land, we said, ‘Come, we must go to Jerusalem to escape the Babylonianb and Aramean armies.’ So we have remained in Jerusalem.” Matthew 23 “Woe to you, scribes [Kenites/Rekabites] and Pharisees, hypocrites!...Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah..." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27932044 Canada10/03/2014 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is really going on there? What are they protesting and why? What is the government doing and what is their stance?and what outcome benefits both parties or the majority? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62794209 Thank you. UK and China have a long feud over Taiwan. UK is stirring the pot, creating chaos, and fomenting a political coup of the Chinese lapdog Taiwan government. Lol thank you! What's so funny? we have a whole generation that does what their eye-phone tells them! there is a war being fought over what you think! twitter, facebook and instagram manipulated by intelligence agencies to control the masses....  "China’s foreign minister made it clear Beijing would not allow other countries to meddle into its ‘internal affairs’, responding in this way to US Secretary of State’s call for Beijing to grant Hong Kong the “highest possible degree of autonomy.” The American and the Chinese heads of foreign offices exchanged their views on the massive protests in Hong Kong before their talks at the US State Department on Wednesday. "Hong Kong affairs are China's internal affairs,”.... The #OccupyCentral hashtag has eventually gone viral online with umbrellas, used by the rally participants to cover themselves from tear gas and pepper spray becoming symbols of the protest. [link to rt.com] Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
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| FHLC nli User ID: 51739979  China10/03/2014 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is really going on there? What are they protesting and why? What is the government doing and what is their stance?and what outcome benefits both parties or the majority? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62794209 Thank you. UK and China have a long feud over Taiwan. UK is stirring the pot, creating chaos, and fomenting a political coup of the Chinese lapdog Taiwan government. Hey very succinct and close to the mark. You are missing some other behind the scenes major players, but essentially the upfront issues you have described well. By the way, I don't think this will work for the corpratist ngo's this time, imo. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63090473  United Kingdom10/03/2014 05:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is really going on there? What are they protesting and why? What is the government doing and what is their stance?and what outcome benefits both parties or the majority? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62794209 Thank you. UK and China have a long feud over Taiwan. UK is stirring the pot, creating chaos, and fomenting a political coup of the Chinese lapdog Taiwan government. The UK is not interested in Taiwan, that is the US, the UK is interested in Hong Kong, there are still many high ups in London that still have vested interests in Hong Kong. [link to europe.chinadaily.com.cn] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18392861 United Kingdom10/03/2014 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | -His right-hand man Mark Simon, has been the chairman of the US republican party in HK. He is the one distributing money to the following people for Jimmy Lai. -He was exposed to have paid the local Catholic cardinal Joseph Zen 3 million pounds in secret, funded most of the 'democratic' politicians, funded an ex government official Anson Chan, all of which are very vocal in their anti-government and anti-China stance. He is under investigation of the anti corruption organisation of HK in connection with bribing politicians. -He paid Paul Wolfowitz (former World Bank president and US Deputy Defence Secretary) $75,000 for arranging meeting in Myanmar for some reasons. [link to www.dvb.no (secure)] -His Next Media and newspaper Apple Daily is a propaganda tool which brainwashed youngsters into the democratic shit, and that the west is the best and china is evil etc. Before the current leader of HK, CY Leung, took office (March 2012), Jimmy Lai ordered the editor of his Next media group to fight with CY Leung, since CY Leung is chosen by Beijing and that he would surely legislate the 23rd article into the basic law, (which will make treason and receiving money from overseas for political reasons illegal and a serious crime). And the same article his editor described Jimmy Lai as being excited with the prospects of using mass to fight with CY Leung in the battle. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18392861 United Kingdom10/03/2014 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you watch clips of the protesters, they are like parrot saying we are fighting for democracy, freedom and genuine universal suffrage, justice all that shit. Fighting for democracy? Really? Facts: -HK has never been a democratic place, it was either ruled by Britain or by China now. In fact, with one country two system, HK is governed by themselves but the leader is chosen from a committee of HK people of 1200. -With the approval of China, HK will be able to select their own leader for the first time in 2017. -Candidates to be selected by a nomination committee of 1200 HK people. The make up of which needs to be a good representation of HK. -Two to three candidates to be put forward for HK people to vote: one person one vote. -The leader must be one who loves HK and China. So what's the problem? Jimmy Lai and his propaganda media, paid politicians etc, accused that this is not genuine democracy and demanded for civil nomination. Jimmy Lai was exposed to have discussed with activists from Taiwan, on planning this civil disobedience movement, it was first called the occupy central campaign. (PS His paper Apple Daily has always been very enthusiastic in covering stories about the student union of various universities of HK, for example, they would say such and such students are underground communists and that students should not elect them as chairman of their student union etc. ) The brain washed readers of Apple Daily now went on the street and believe they are doing sacrifices for the HK people in order to fight for real democracy. Another person of interest is a student leader Joshua Wong, information have been said that he was trained by the US. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18392861 United Kingdom10/03/2014 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason these protesters have clash with other HK people is that, these idiots occupied main roads in different areas of HK. Traffic being diverted, business affected, schools have to be closed. These protesters are like bullies (but the media only shows the ones who are polite and cute), they took control of a bus as road blocks and refused to return, they blocked off the entrance to the government building so people can't go to work, they refused to let police to get their supply of food and drink, they refused to let police change shift. HK people have enough of these stupid parrots who think themselves as saviour, they went out to tell them you are not the boss. |
| Der Kommissar User ID: 42238805 Netherlands10/03/2014 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just another GEORGE SOROS/CIA/MOSSAD/OTPOR/CANVAS job to destabilize yet another developing country. They want the Western type of Illuminati "democracy" that attacks women, hetero men, traditional family, children and promotes sodomy, pedophilia, and all the stuff promoted by America and the rest of the "free world". Because Hong Kong youth is mind-programmed by the West culture. The government is pepper-spraying the shit out of them. That's their instance! The only outcome will be one that benefits the shadow government. U are welcome! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18392861 United Kingdom10/03/2014 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to revolution-news.com] For a protest movement that claims it stands for “democracy,” implied to mean the will of the people, it has an unpopular agenda clearly rejected by the vast majority of Hong Kong’s population – and is now disrupting vital parts of the island, holding the population and stability hostage to push its agenda. All of this is being orchestrated and supported by the United States, its State Department, and its network of global sedition operating under NED and its subsidiary NDI. While the Western media shows mobs of “thousands” implying that “the people” support ongoing chaos in Hong Kong’s streets, “Occupy Central’s” own staged, illegal referendum proves it does not have the backing of the people and that its agenda is rejected both by mainland China and the people of Hong Kong. [link to www.popularresistance.org] |
| bvndy User ID: 27237800 United States10/03/2014 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The citizens of Hong Kong have grown up in the most free country on earth, and that was before the UK gave it back to China. Now that China is placing puppets in power, getting ready to enslave the population, the citizens are finding out what rule under communism is like. They will be quashed like the mainland protest was years ago. Sad secret, China is backed and supported by major coporations, they want that slave labor to make their products. How else will they sell 42" flatscreens for 300 bucks You can ignore the consequences of your actions, but you cannot ignore the RESULTS of the consequences of your actions Ayn Rand |
